# Ludovico Treatment **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 1, 1999, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludovico-treatment/3044 "1999-09-01T20:23:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darwinself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Darwinself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwinself)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 1999, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludovico-treatment/3044/1 "1999-09-01T20:23:00Z")
Was the Ludovico Treatment (Clockwork Orange) based even slightly on anything? Was it based in a major way on something? Darwinsboredelf ---
**Author:** ![According\_to\_Pliny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@According\_to\_Pliny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/According_to_Pliny)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 1999, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludovico-treatment/3044/2 "1999-09-01T20:30:00Z")
In general: Yes. Pavlov and his dogs. Classic condition/response stimulus research. Specifically: I’ll bet the Nazis, Soviets, perhaps even the CIA looked into it and even used human test subjects. The intent, though, probably wasn’t to cure homocidal perverts, but to create un-questioning conformists. It’s much easier to just execute homocidal perverts. ---
**Author:** ![Darwinself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Darwinself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwinself)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 1999, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludovico-treatment/3044/3 "1999-09-01T20:33:00Z")
anymore details? hints? Rumours? Can I get a teenager to pick up his clothes with the right amount of treatment? Darwins elf ---
**Author:** ![Babar714](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@Babar714](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babar714)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 1999, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludovico-treatment/3044/4 "1999-09-01T22:24:00Z")
If me mum played Ludwig Van to make me clean my room, me and my droogs would begin the ultra-violence. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 1999, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludovico-treatment/3044/5 "1999-09-01T22:28:00Z")
Check out B.F. Skinner and his operant conditioning studies. ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Iron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Big\_Iron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Iron)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 1999, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludovico-treatment/3044/6 "1999-09-05T04:54:00Z")
Whoo hoo! Judy!!! I dunno about the Ludivico Treatment, per se, but I think the name is interesting in light of Alex’s love for lovely, lovely Ludwig Von and Beethoven’s constant presence through the film – isn’t “Ludivico” Italian for “Ludwig”? ---
**Author:** ![Jorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@Jorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jorge)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 1999, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludovico-treatment/3044/7 "1999-09-05T05:22:00Z")
Ludovico ? It’s a sly reference to “Orlando Furioso”. Read both **books** , then ponder. * * * “Proverbs for Paranoids, 1: You may never get to touch the Master, but you can tickle his creatures.” - T.Pynchon, _Gravity’s Rainbow_. ---
**Author:** ![Darwinself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Darwinself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwinself)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 1999, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ludovico-treatment/3044/8 "1999-09-07T00:53:00Z")
And just think how tickled his creatures are when you do touch the master?!?!?!? Dread Pirate Judy