# Lust4Life: If you want to accuse me of dishonesty, bring it here. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804 "2012-11-03T23:15:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/21 "2012-11-04T20:27:55Z")
This thread reminded me of one of my very favorite episodes of _NewsRadio_, wherein Dave Nelson’s long-guarded secret – he’s actually from Canada – finally comes out, prompting his hilariously pathetic explanation as to why he ever hid it in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/22 "2012-11-04T20:30:25Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > You got caught, so suck it up. How, exactly, did she get caught? How did you _not_ get caught by most of your countrymen & women who posted opinions contrary to your own? ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/23 "2012-11-04T20:58:51Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > How, exactly, did she get caught? How did you _not_ get caught by most of your countrymen & women who posted opinions contrary to your own? Agreed, **L4L** has the folks he claims to represent telling him he’s wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Bilbo1967](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@Bilbo1967](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bilbo1967)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/24 "2012-11-04T21:12:55Z")
As one of the people that **L4L** claims to represent, I can state with certainty that he/she is incorrect. I also posted similar in the original thread. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/25 "2012-11-04T22:02:40Z")
L4L is just a blathering idiot, I would suggest not wasting your time with him. He is one of those people for whom a little bit of information is dangerous, as he immediately thinks he knows it all. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/26 "2012-11-04T22:07:10Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > L4L is just a blathering idiot, I would suggest not wasting your time with him. He is one of those people for whom a little bit of information is dangerous, as he immediately thinks he knows it all. How can I put this ? Love you to death honey ! ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/27 "2012-11-04T22:11:14Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > How can I put this ? > Love you to death honey ! Translation: “I got nothin’.” ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/28 "2012-11-04T22:12:59Z")
0Sorry didn’t consider how seriously you considederd yourrseveles Unfortuntely my best frend was shot through the head, while in Ireland, and he was a non event. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/29 "2012-11-04T22:21:36Z")
I swear to god if Dr. Drake isn’t British nothing else in this world makes sense. Seriously, this pitting is bad and you should feel bad. I feel like I wasted time reading the OP, then actually commenting on the OP, then actually spell checking the crap I wrote about the OP. I could have jerked off in that time and been more productive. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/30 "2012-11-04T22:53:05Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > 0Sorry didn’t consider how seriously you considederd yourrseveles > Unfortuntely my best frend was shot through the head, while in Ireland, and he was a non event. You’re slurring your words. Spelling is going out the window. ---
**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/31 "2012-11-05T01:31:55Z")
I’ve lived in the East Midlands my entire life and most people I know don’t give a damn about the monarchy. It’s not that they wish to see it abolished (most don’t), they just consider it irrelevant to their lives. You might get the occasional dirty look if you criticise them in public but nobody I know has ever started an argument over it. ---
**Author:** ![PaulParkhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PaulParkhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulParkhead)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/32 "2012-11-05T03:09:48Z")
> [@MJinks](#): > > I’ve lived in the East Midlands my entire life and most people I know don’t give a damn about the monarchy. It’s not that they wish to see it abolished (most don’t), they just consider it irrelevant to their lives. You might get the occasional dirty look if you criticise them in public but nobody I know has ever started an argument over it. Well, quite. But, you know, Irish! and Foreigners! What don’t you understand about that? They come over here, steal our jobs and say nasty things about dear old Brenda! They refuse to eat cucumber sandwiches, and they don’t even like cricket. They argue with umpires! They cheer when they’ve won! And they practice beforehand, which spoils the fun. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/33 "2012-11-05T03:47:21Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > Unfortuntely my best frend was shot through the head, while in Ireland, and he was a non event. Well, since nobody else has bothered to ask, I guess I’ll give it a try. Why on Earth should anyone believe _you_ that said event even occurred? ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/34 "2012-11-05T04:03:14Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Well, since nobody else has bothered to ask, I guess I’ll give it a try. > > Why on Earth should anyone believe _you_ that said event even occurred? Geeze now I feel bad - I assumed it was hyperbole and actually laughed. Apologies all around. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/35 "2012-11-05T04:08:36Z")
Man, I hate those dirty sumbitching Irish. Amirite, Lust4Life? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/36 "2012-11-05T04:42:08Z")
Marwood: [voiceover] If The Crow and Crown had ever had life it was dead now. It was like walking into a lung. A self-sustained nicotine-yellow and fly-blown lung. Its landlord was a retired alcoholic with military pretensions and a complexion like the inside of a teapot. By the time the doors opened he was arseholed on rum and got progressively more arseholed until he could take no more and fell over at about 12 o’clock. [the drunken pub landlord opens the till and it hits it him the chest and he almost falls down] General: Thought I was going for a minute. But no man’s put me down yet. Have you had any training in the martial arts? Withnail: Yes, as a matter of fact I have. Before I became a journalist I was in the Territorials. General: Do you know, when you first came in here I knew you were a services man. You can never, never disguise it. Withnail: What were you in? General: Tanks. Afrika Korps. A little before your time. Don’t suppose you’ve engaged, have you? Withnail: Ireland. General: Oooh, a crack at the Mick? Withnail: We’ll have another pair of large scotches. General: These shall be my pleasure. [he pours their drinks] General: What are you doing up here, then? Withnail: We’re doing a feature for Country Life. Survey of rural types, you know, farmers, travelling tinkers, milkmen, that sort of thing. General: Have you met Jake? Poacher. Works the lake, but keep it under your hat, hmm? [they go and sit down with their drinks] Marwood: What’s all this Army bollocks? Withnail: We got a drink, didn’t we? ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/37 "2012-11-05T08:41:58Z")
> [@If there is monarchy in UK, and people dislike it why don't they protest against it?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-there-is-monarchy-in-uk-and-people-dislike-it-why-dont-they-protest-against-it/639261/100): > > Don’t be silly. **I have never made any secret of the fact that I live in Canada. If you look at my posting history, you’ll find references to my British husband and to the years we lived in Britain.** If I’ve made an argument you disagree with, rebut it. If you have a specific accusation against me personally, please take it to the Pit. Otherwise, move on. Here’s a post that backs up what she says. > [@Married Dopers, do you keep separate finances from your SO?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/married-dopers-do-you-keep-separate-finances-from-your-so/575624/59): > > Like **Hilarity N. Suze** , we had a joint account but different styles drove us crazy. I keep track of pennies, he rounds. I believe in keeping a register, he thinks, “why bother when you can always check online?” In general, though, it’s not a source of tension between us. Lack of money full stop, and earning disparity (me: all vs. him: none) is a HUGE source of tension, but since what can be done is being done we just have to live with it for now. > > We each have multiple accounts, here in Canada (both) and Britain (both) and the US (just me) as well as debts. \ Here’s another. That wasn’t hard. **L4L** , you were wrong about Dr. Drake’s claims being suspect. > [@Letter to America](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letter-to-america/550023/25): > > That’s right. We met when I was on a work visa in Britain; I returned to the U.S., and we went through an elaborate process to get him a visa, creating a company to employ him. This was a headache and a half and I don’t recommend anyone do this: over half the money he earned went to company overhead (payroll taxes, lawyers, accountants, etc.). Running a company together, especially if it’s out of necessity rather than a dream, puts a strain on a relationship. Anyway, that visa had an expiration date (the end of next month), and there was no path to permanent residency. > > I happen to be a dual citizen with Canada through my mother, though I’ve never lived here and she’s been in the US for 50 years. I sponsored him for immigration to Canada. We also had the option of going to Britain, so we were really lucky to have multiple options. Most people in our situation don’t have any. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/38 "2012-11-05T08:56:00Z")
There’s only one post in that thread made by **Dr. Drake** that sounds like it’s explicitly claiming British insight; it’s this one: > [@](#): > > I’ve heard it done with absolutely no repercussions. Personally, I quite like the queen and the institution, but if you think what you describe is uniform throughout the UK, you need to get out more. I know a lot more Welsh people than English / Scottish / Irish, but I’d say at least a quarter of younger people actively dislike the monarchy, and I have also heard the sentiment expressed by multiple people in their 60s and 70s. Just a few months ago, I was practically given a sermon on the subject by an older man who objected to holding jubilee celebrations. Admittedly this was in Canada, but he was born and raised in Britain and we have the same monarch over here. I mean, if you just fail to read the sentence I graped, then you could complain that it’s written as though from the POV of a native Brit, but then, if you failed to read the graped section, you’d have _no reason to complain about that._ ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/39 "2012-11-05T09:47:07Z")
The amusing thing is that the person accusing Dr Drake of lying about his personal life has made a few eye raising claims himself. After all, he’s: [been a “Special Forces radio operator”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11119921#post11119921) [“worked in a nuclear weapons establishment”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13605119#post13605119) [“I have been a prisoner in the M.E.”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15588962#post15588962) [“I’ve known incredibly fit men carrying food and water die of Hypo…while undergoing S.A.S. selection.”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13520546&postcount=13) [“I have ben in one revolution where quite honestly you’d have died of boredom, I turned up for another revolt (As a representative for HMG, along with the others) Its useulley boring.”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13510135&postcount=17) And that’s just the ones that spring out from a quick search. Now it’s entirely possible that he has led the colourful man of action life he describes above. Hell, it’s an anonymous internet board, so why would someone be sad enough to claim to being a former soldier with special forces experience who’s worked in the nuclear industry, been involved in revolutions, been arrested in the Middle East, had friends shot, and so on. However, it seems like arch rank hypocrisy to be quite so quick to accuse others of lying. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/40 "2012-11-05T10:42:03Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > How, exactly, did she get caught? **Dr. Drake** is a fellow of the male persuasion. [Here’s one of the threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=389234) where he talks about immigration issues between him and his British husband settling in the Canada together. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804.md?page=3)