# Lust4Life: If you want to accuse me of dishonesty, bring it here.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804 "2012-11-03T23:15:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/121 "2012-11-06T07:17:49Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> > [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> > Marwood: [voiceover] If The Crow and Crown had ever had life it was dead now. It was like walking into a lung. A self-sustained nicotine-yellow and fly-blown lung. Its landlord was a retired alcoholic with military pretensions and a complexion like the inside of a teapot. By the time the doors opened he was arseholed on rum and got progressively more arseholed until he could take no more and fell over at about 12 o’clock.  
> > [the drunken pub landlord opens the till and it hits it him the chest and he almost falls down]  
> > General: Thought I was going for a minute. But no man’s put me down yet. Have you had any training in the martial arts?  
> > Withnail: Yes, as a matter of fact I have. Before I became a journalist I was in the Territorials.  
> > General: Do you know, when you first came in here I knew you were a services man. You can never, never disguise it.  
> > Withnail: What were you in?  
> > General: Tanks. Afrika Korps. A little before your time. Don’t suppose you’ve engaged, have you?  
> > Withnail: Ireland.  
> > General: Oooh, a crack at the Mick?  
> > Withnail: We’ll have another pair of large scotches.  
> > General: These shall be my pleasure.  
> > [he pours their drinks]  
> > General: What are you doing up here, then?  
> > Withnail: We’re doing a feature for Country Life. Survey of rural types, you know, farmers, travelling tinkers, milkmen, that sort of thing.  
> > General: Have you met Jake? Poacher. Works the lake, but keep it under your hat, hmm?  
> > [they go and sit down with their drinks]  
> > Marwood: What’s all this Army bollocks?  
> > Withnail: We got a drink, didn’t we?
> 
> You really really do have a lot of time on your hands don’t you ?
> 
> Unfortunately I couldn’t be bothered to waste thrty seconds of my life wading through all of that crap.
> 
> Though its obviously very important to you.

Thanks for re-posting my _Withnail and I_ quote, Lust 4 Life. I have to admit I was a bit sad no one commented on it. The General seemed to sum you up so perfectly. To answer your complaint, it took me less than 20 seconds to C&P that quote from IMDB to this thread

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/122 "2012-11-06T07:24:59Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> In the scene, **Lust4Life** is being played by Sean Bean.

[Wrong Bean](http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/m/mr-bean/graphics-mr-bean-706282.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/123 "2012-11-06T13:11:25Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> How can I put this ?
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> Love you to death honey !

Death Honey!?

Awesome! That’s gonna be either my next band’s name or an album title!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/124 "2012-11-06T13:13:39Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> Death Honey!?
> 
> Awesome! That’s gonna be either my next band’s name or an album title!

The album title would be “Death Honey Don’t Care”.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/125 "2012-11-06T14:52:36Z")

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Funny story. Friend of mine worked as a barman in a pub in Luton. One of the regulars apparently sustained injuries trying to disarm a bomb planted by the IRA. Was drinking… an awful lot actually. Still owe my friend seven pints he took off his tab. Anyway, another of his regulars asked where I was from, originally. I told him I was born in Belfast. He took the wrong end of the stick and ran with it. Never heard the song before and couldn’t give you a score, but I remember the lines “I’d rather be a Paki than a hun!”.

If you’re looking for anti-Royalist sentiments in the UK, that pub might be a good place to start.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/126 "2012-11-06T17:08:22Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> Death Honey!?
> 
> Awesome! That’s gonna be either my next band’s name or an album title!

Death Honey Boo Boo?

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/127 "2012-11-06T17:16:30Z")

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I don’t usually spend much time in the Pit, but I’m going to have to start, because some of this stuff is comedy gold!

Anyway, I don’t really care much one way or another about the discussion here, but I wanted to post to say that as an ‘outsider’ (in that I am not now, have never been, and never intend to be, British, so I have no stake whatsoever in the original argument) **Lust4Life** seems to be nothing more than your average racist, bullying, Internet-tough-guy.

I wanted to get that out, so that maybe he’ll see it and come back here to insult me too…I’m hoping I get something that I can use for a new signature…

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/128 "2012-11-06T17:25:05Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> Funny story. Friend of mine worked as a barman in a pub in Luton. One of the regulars apparently sustained injuries trying to disarm a bomb planted by the IRA. Was drinking… an awful lot actually. Still owe my friend seven pints he took off his tab. Anyway, another of his regulars asked where I was from, originally. I told him I was born in Belfast. He took the wrong end of the stick and ran with it. Never heard the song before and couldn’t give you a score, but I remember the lines “I’d rather be a Paki than a hun!”.
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> If you’re looking for anti-Royalist sentiments in the UK, that pub might be a good place to start.

I have to admit I’m having some difficulty parsing this story. Stick? Song?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/129 "2012-11-06T18:44:15Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> Had it been one night I could put it down to being drunk in charge of richard littlejohn, but two nights is very strange - lusty, assuming you’re not on a bender, you really are coming across as a loon. And a nasty bigoted loon at that.

I think the word you’re lokking for is “troll”.

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**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/130 "2012-11-06T19:08:14Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> Never heard the song before and couldn’t give you a score, but I remember the lines “I’d rather be a Paki than a hun!”.

I think that’s “El Provo Pasa” by Simon and Garfunkel

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/131 "2012-11-06T19:49:00Z")

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When I was in Belfast visiting friends, the only song I can recall from the time had the refrain, “Belfast, Belfast, such a lovely town, doesn’t matter if your skin’s brown.”

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/132 "2012-11-06T20:14:25Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> Never heard the song before and couldn’t give you a score, but I remember the lines “I’d rather be a Paki than a hun!”.

It’s sung by some in Glasgow and environs to the same tune as “Ye cannae shove yer grannie off a bus”. Not that I suspect this is much help to most here. 😃

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/133 "2012-11-06T20:19:59Z")

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> [@zagloba](#):
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> I think that’s “El Provo Pasa” by Simon and Garfunkel

Heh, good joke, but it’s a different tune.

This tune in fact:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/xCkKHLwrUtg/maxresdefault.jpg "ye cannae shove yer granny off the bus") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCkKHLwrUtg)

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/134 "2012-11-06T20:24:36Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> It’s sung by some in Glasgow and environs to the same tune as “Ye cannae shove yer grannie off a bus”. Not that I suspect this is much help to most here. 😃

Tune is “She’ll be coming round the mountain” 🙂

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/135 "2012-11-06T20:27:24Z")

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> [@PaulParkhead](#):
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> Tune is “She’ll be coming round the mountain” 🙂

Yes, I suppose that _is_ a bit better known. 🙂 I knew it was something from a musical, but couldn’t think what.

Edit: hah, not even a musical. Ah well.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/136 "2012-11-06T20:33:11Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> Yes, I suppose that _is_ a bit better known. 🙂 I knew it was something from a musical, but couldn’t think what.
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> Edit: hah, not even a musical. Ah well.

Took me a while to figure it out - luckily, I have a handy reference source in my wife, heh. She’s US/Canadian, but now knows who you _can_ kick aff the bus.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/137 "2012-11-07T00:40:05Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> When I was in Belfast visiting friends, the only song I can recall from the time had the refrain, “Belfast, Belfast, such a lovely town, doesn’t matter if your skin’s brown.”

In the '60s? Or recently? [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPXdaTMMa2w)’s the song anyway.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/138 "2012-11-07T00:50:19Z")

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The Irish are a race?

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/139 "2012-11-07T00:55:34Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> The Irish are a race?

Well they certainly aren’t human.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/140 "2012-11-07T01:07:28Z")

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Naw, dude, let’s not play that. Lusty has been called a racist about 6.73 million times in this thread. Now, FTR, I do not believe he has a hard-on for the Sons of the Emerald Isle in general. I think he has a hard-on for a subset of that group who like to play with guns and bombs. Now, I’ve never been to Ireland in my life, but I personally know some folks (Plastic Paddies I believe they are called back in the Dear Auld Saud) who have contributed financially to to the carnage there. I didn’t much care for them. Does that make me a racist too?

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