# Lust4Life: If you want to accuse me of dishonesty, bring it here. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804 "2012-11-03T23:15:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/141 "2012-11-07T01:25:15Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > The Irish are a race? [Why not?](http://www.amazon.com/Story-Irish-Race-Seumas-Macmanus/dp/0517064081) (This is the pre-Linnaean meaning of the word race. You can still find it used in places, although it has been supplanted by a lot of pseudo-science in the last century or so.) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/142 "2012-11-07T01:32:10Z")
He’s not just being called a racist because of his views on the Irish. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/143 "2012-11-07T01:42:59Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Naw, dude, let’s not play that. Lusty has been called a racist about 6.73 million times in this thread. Now, FTR, I do not believe he has a hard-on for the Sons of the Emerald Isle in general. I think he has a hard-on for a subset of that group who like to play with guns and bombs. Now, I’ve never been to Ireland in my life, but I personally know some folks (Plastic Paddies I believe they are called back in the Dear Auld Saud) who have contributed financially to to the carnage there. I didn’t much care for them. Does that make me a racist too? What’s this got to do with the House of Saud? Lust4life seems not to be able to or willing to distinguish normal Irish people in general (except the people in the abstract he professes to love) from terrorists. A couple of arseholes he encountered in a bar somewhere one time somehow represent the 100,000s of Irish who live and work in Britain. If it’s not racism, he holds a stereotypical view of Irish (Catholics in particular) that bears little resemblance to reality. He also seems to think that anyone and everyone who might like Ireland to be united is by definition a terrorist sympathiser. For someone who claims to know and love Ireland, he has a facile understanding of its history and its people. He ruins almost any thread he posts in. His ill-parsed, “common-sense”, pig ignorant, maunderings and slander are the bane of other posters who spend time wording considered responses to political/cultural/historical topics. As then he just comes out with cryptically or maybe just drunkenly worded nonsense, threats, and _gotcha ya_s galore almost each and every times someone asks him for a cite for his verbal excrement. This is clearly illustrated in this very thread. And so what if he’s not _racist_ against Irish people? He’s shown he’s intolerant of other far less enfranchised minorities in Britain, and deliberately insensitive to the different cultures and genders represented on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/144 "2012-11-07T06:49:45Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > The Irish are a race? Ah right, so it’s time for that weasel defence. He’s not a racist, because the group that he dislikes so much aren’t actually a race? Tell you what, is the definition of racism [that UN member states use good enough for you?](http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/cerd.htm) > [@](#): > > In this Convention, the term “racial discrimination” shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or **national** or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/145 "2012-11-07T07:06:28Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Ah right, so it’s time for that weasel defence. He’s not a racist, because the group that he dislikes so much aren’t actually a race? > > Tell you what, is the definition of racism [that UN member states use good enough for you?](http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/cerd.htm) Hint: You’re arguing with the wrong guy ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/146 "2012-11-07T12:24:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > When I was in Belfast visiting friends, the only song I can recall from the time had the refrain, “Belfast, Belfast, such a lovely town, doesn’t matter if your skin’s brown.” > [@An\_Gadai](#): > > In the '60s? Or recently? [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPXdaTMMa2w)’s the song anyway. Whoosh? Actually the song is from 1971 by Tommy Thomas and Clubsound. ETA: It’s hilarious or should I say beautiful, beautiful! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/147 "2012-11-07T13:15:30Z")
Woosh? You do know I posted before that link, right? To answer the poster’s question, I visited in April of 1982. Odd thing, it was played in every pub we visited. Thanks for the link! ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/148 "2012-11-07T14:03:26Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Woosh? You do know I posted before that link, right? To answer the poster’s question, I visited in April of 1982. Odd thing, it was played in every pub we visited. Thanks for the link! I had assumed it was from the late Sixties. It’s a peculiar one. I only discovered it when looking for something else. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/149 "2012-11-07T16:02:41Z")
Where did **Lusty** go? Having another chat with the beer bottle? Whisky bottle? Or with whatever he is killing his semi functioning brain cells. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/150 "2012-11-07T16:26:21Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > Where did **Lusty** go? > > Having another chat with the beer bottle? Whisky bottle? Or with whatever he is killing his semi functioning brain cells. My first interaction with that sod, found in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=393188), included [this observation from me](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7936078&postcount=89): > [@](#): > > What I glean from your posts is that you’re either stoned, drunk, or completely out of touch with reality. There’s already far more evidence than needed to show you’re out of touch with English. I see not much at all has changed in the last six years. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/151 "2012-11-07T17:40:38Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > My first interaction with that sod, found in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=393188), included [this observation from me](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7936078&postcount=89): > > I see not much at all has changed in the last six years. … and there I thought it was just my understanding of the english language, that Lusty made no sense at all … obviously it’s not that simple… he must have come down with the last shower! ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/152 "2012-11-07T18:17:13Z")
A little clarification: to “take the wrong end of the stick” is to get the wrong impression. Guy at the pub heard my accent (London) and assumed I was an Orangeman: an Ulster Unionist, Northern Irish Protestant (or a “hun”). In fact, my father’s family is about as Irish Catholic as is possible to get. He has something like 54 cousins. He threw stones from behind walls at soldiers stationed nearby and they fired back (according to him, anyway, I find it somewhat implausible). One can reveal oneself rather easily by saying “I’m from Derry” (which is where my father’s father lives) as the Unionists say “Londonderry”. That said, a Sinn Fein member once canvassed my grandfather’s house and was promptly told to fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/153 "2012-11-07T18:23:46Z")
> [@zagloba](#): > > I think that’s “El Provo Pasa” by Simon and Garfunkel What’s provo? My google-fu is on vacation; apparently it has gone to a town in Utah… ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/154 "2012-11-07T18:26:57Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > What’s provo? My google-fu is on vacation; apparently it has gone to a town in Utah… Short for [Provisional Irish Republican Army.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army) ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/155 "2012-11-07T20:25:05Z")
Did Lust4Life get a discount on carriage returns at Costco? Cuz he sure uses a lot of them. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/156 "2012-11-08T00:07:59Z")
Maybe he “appropriated” them from blackdog, who uses very few of them. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/157 "2012-11-08T01:05:31Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > Now apologise for being a coward and a liar. > > Or even better apologise for just being you. > > I really hope to meet you one day. > > Though I very much doubt that you’ll enjoy the experience. > > And stranger things have happened. Jesus man, this is just a message board. Lighten up. Wait, or are just saying that people in general don’t enjoy meeting you? ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/158 "2012-11-08T01:24:52Z")
By the way as a neutral observer I’m cool with meeting you, Lust4Life. I am in most “corners” of the UK at least once a year so can probably do it if no one is in a rush and it fits in with you. I will be totally objective and can report back on your veracity. That’s if you give a damn about everyone exposing you as a nut. You might not… ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/159 "2012-11-10T19:27:35Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Of course I wouldn’t enjoy meeting you in real life. You’re boring. Who would enjoy meeting a poorly informed, opinionated blowhard who can’t handle his drink? Still, fair play to you, at least you’ve acknowledged your company isn’t enjoya… > > …HANG ON A MO! Why, that wasn’t a frank admission of your faults at all. It was a veiled threat from an internet hardman! Oh gosh and lordy! > > How best to put this? At night, you sit alone and drunk, posting fables on message boards about your military exploits, and making impotent threats at strangers you feel have slighted you. I honestly don’t think I could say anything more insulting about a person than that. It’s a sad, empty shell of an existence, and I pity you. Tee He he !, got to you have I ? I’m so boring thats why you stalk me . And spare me the whole "Hang on a mo ", tripe I must confess to being a little bit worried about you knowing that I’m living a fantasy life where I used to travel around the world and do interesting things, and have unusual experiences. Promise not to tell anyone, please,please, please ! I’ll give you money if that what it takes ! Sorry but I can’t do anything about you being worried that I’m going to do something unpleasant to you in the future, but I’m desperately trying to cope with being "found out " as a serial fantasist. Just do your best not to cry, or have nightmares. Perhaps counselling might work for you ? ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804/160 "2012-11-10T19:42:11Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Lust4Life, I say this as someone who literally just wandered into the conversation, and have never especially noticed you as a poster before: > > You are not coming off well. You are not winning. Your insults are not clever or insightful. > > Best to just let this go, dude. I know where you’re coming from **Astral Rejection** and I appreciate your sentiments. But unfortunately we get people hanging around the Pit, who join “Pile ons”, because they’re under achievers IRL, and its their way of getting their own back , on all of the people who picked on them at school, or whos work colleagues treat them with contempt, or who know that they’ll never gain peoples respect etc. (Or for that matter, people who get a thrill out of being abusive to complete strangers because they’d never dare do it in real life.A bit like children being able to be insulting to grown ups and get away with it ) But we also have on this thread those who’ve been pretending to be “one thing” while promoting their own agenda. And golly gosh ! I’ve "outed "them . But as they can’t actually own up to being caught out, wait until someone else starts a bullying campaign, and then join in when its safe. Yes I won’t look like "mister nice guy "on this thread, but for me its fun ! And I suspect that for them its therapy ! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lust4life-if-you-want-to-accuse-me-of-dishonesty-bring-it-here/639804.md?page=9)