# Lying whore.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 10, 2006, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153 "2006-04-10T22:26:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1381 "2006-06-13T17:57:21Z")

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> [@Huerta88](#):
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> So your repeating her misrepresenation about “a rape a week in Duraham, S.C.” (yeah, she’s that smart) can only be disingenuous, at this point.

Okay, make it statewide frequency. Doesn’t change a damn thing, but I’ll humor you anyway.

Wouldn’t want to be called disingenous by **Huerta88**. Anything but that.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1382 "2006-06-14T08:22:11Z")

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> [@you with the face](#):
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> Okay, make it statewide frequency. Doesn’t change a damn thing, but I’ll humor you anyway.
> 
> Wouldn’t want to be called disingenous by **Huerta88**. Anything but that.

Stats that purport to show white-on-black rape never happens are gravely prejudicial to people’s judgment of the facts, if they turn out to be untrue. Stats that purport to show the weekly rape incidence for the _city_ when they actually refer to the _whole state_… well, aren’t we back to the red-cars-in-Siberia argument here? Surely by the logic someone was earlier advancing, the mere fact that there are rapes going on in the state shouldn’t be any evidence at all that there are rapes going on in the city?

I mean, I’m willing to discuss this, but how do you reason with someone who wants it both ways? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1383 "2006-06-16T18:00:46Z")

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Nifong, who, it was assumed, would be running unopposed for election to D.A., now faces he possibility of a write-in candidate. Guess who that candidate’s campaign manager will be? [I bet you can’t.](http://www.herald-sun.com/durham/4-744710.html)

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1384 "2006-06-16T21:54:39Z")

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I still think the fact that Al Sahrpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakan haven’t shown up speaks to the lack of financial viability of this case. My guess is, the judge (hope its a black woman) will throw out the case.  
Nifong is an idiot :smack:

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**Author:** ![giuseppe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@giuseppe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/giuseppe)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1385 "2006-06-16T22:22:53Z")

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[QUOTE=ralph124c]  
I still think the fact that Al Sahrpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakan haven’t shown up speaks to the lack of financial viability of this case. My guess is, the judge (hope its a black woman) will throw out the case.  
Nifong is an idiot :smack:  
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Al Sharpton may be feeling a little gun-shy after Tawana.

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1386 "2006-06-16T22:29:52Z")

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[QUOTE=ralph124c]  
I still think the fact that Al Sahrpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakan haven’t shown up speaks to the lack of financial viability of this case. My guess is, the judge (hope its a black woman) will throw out the case.  
Nifong is an idiot :smack:  
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Didn’t Jesse Jackson offer to pay the accuser’s college tuition earlier?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1387 "2006-06-16T23:17:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Garfield226]  
Didn’t Jesse Jackson offer to pay the accuser’s college tuition earlier?  
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Sorta. He offered to pay, but not with his own money. [http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/4/17/92336.shtml?s=ic](http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/4/17/92336.shtml?s=ic)

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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1388 "2006-06-17T03:12:14Z")

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Sorry I’ve been away for so long; anyone miss me?

[Supplemental Discovery Motion](http://www.newsobserver.com/content/news/crime_safety/duke_lacrosse/20060615_duke1.pdf). Great reading. This ought to sway any of the fence sitters out there…

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1389 "2006-06-22T06:49:30Z")

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[Latest news](http://www.veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e82182bQNHXkHg&feature=1&order=mp&range=w&numResults=20&query=%2bclass%3av+-editorTags%3ahide+safe_on&title=Most+Popular) Caution Flash video

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1390 "2006-06-22T23:09:31Z")

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[QUOTE=ouryL]  
[Latest news](http://www.veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e82182bQNHXkHg&feature=1&order=mp&range=w&numResults=20&query=%2bclass%3av+-editorTags%3ahide+safe_on&title=Most+Popular) Caution Flash video  
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Yeesh! That morning TV news magazine bit doesn’t bode well for the accusation! Too bad she’s submitting her case to a court, and not the media. Sometimes they tell us to have a different opinion than what ends up being the actual real-life outcomes of official state proceedings, like the 2000 presidential election, the 2004 presidential election, the Simpson murder trial, Nagin’s re-election, Barry’s re-election, Bryant’s rape trial, Diallo’s case, Michael Jackson’s two trials…

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**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1391 "2006-06-23T09:53:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Garfield226]  
Didn’t Jesse Jackson offer to pay the accuser’s college tuition earlier?  
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He also, early on, introduced some lurid imagery by talking about how this case was a lineal descendant of the slavemaster (Jackson’s word)-on-slave-gal rapes, and how that historical pattern lent credibility to the accusations. I cited it supra (after being slammed for quoting his “slavemaster” language).

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**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1392 "2006-06-23T10:47:51Z")

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Nothing to add, I just didn’t want to be the only doper who hadn’t posted to this thread 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1393 "2006-06-24T04:18:34Z")

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Damn, I don’t think I’ve posted either. Wanna go for a beer, **George**?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1394 "2006-06-24T08:50:30Z")

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Mods! Mods! Lawnchair posts! 😛

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**Author:** ![giuseppe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@giuseppe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/giuseppe)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1395 "2006-06-24T10:03:15Z")

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A few new versions of the accuser’s story have come out: That there were 4 dancers at the party (Precious, Nikki, Angel, and Kimmy); and that she was attacked by 5 guys.

[http://abclocal.go.com/images/wtvd/pdf/cheshire\_letter.pdf](http://abclocal.go.com/images/wtvd/pdf/cheshire_letter.pdf)

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1396 "2006-06-24T15:36:59Z")

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She musta been pretty drunk if she can’t remember how many strippers there were.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1397 "2006-06-24T15:42:34Z")

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Is there anyone left in this thread who:

a) believes the accuser in any material detail, or  
b) believes that the prosecution has a decent chance of persuading a jury beyond a reasonable doubt?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1398 "2006-06-24T16:47:43Z")

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There are some legal types round here, right?

Assuming that there was no media coverage, and no race implications and no Jesse Jackson in this case. Would the DA normally be going ahead with charges with what they have?

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1399 "2006-06-24T17:11:04Z")

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DAs are elected. I imagine that even without the national coverage, it would certainly be a big enough local event for a DA to pursue it.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1400 "2006-06-24T19:43:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Mods! Mods! Lawnchair posts! 😛  
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Oh, that’s it, you squealer. You’re on my list now.

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