# Lying whore. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2006, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153 "2006-04-10T22:26:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1421 "2006-08-09T05:02:10Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker] No, no, no – didn’t you read the rest of the thread? You cannot possibly make any sort of a judgement about how likely an event is by looking at how likely that event is. Don’t you know anything??? [/QUOTE] Yes, please get it right. Statistics have absolutely no predictive value. Because people are human! And have free will! If you disagree with me, I’ll rant at you for weeks until you give up in frustration. And I’ll sic my attack giraffe on you. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1422 "2006-08-09T10:45:46Z")
And now, **you with the face** is over in the other thread, trying to play the race card by insinuating that people only believe the GGW girl because she’s white. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1423 "2006-08-09T13:35:01Z")
And now **catsix** is in two threads, playing the part of the attention-hungry shit-stirrer who wouldn’t know irony if it physically burned her. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1424 "2006-08-09T13:57:46Z")
Now now, the last thing a Pit thread about race and rape needs is for it to start getting personal… ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1425 "2006-08-09T15:24:48Z")
What other thread are you two referring to? ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1426 "2006-08-10T11:29:27Z")
[QUOTE=KRM] What other thread are you two referring to? [/QUOTE] > **[But, Mr. Francis, you are a rapist.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=383204)** > > ‘Baby, Give Me a Kiss’, LA Times, August 6, 2006 However, from earlier in the article: So, not only did Joe Francis, of Girls Gone Wild fame and fortune, ply an 18 year old girl with alcohol, not only did he rape her, but he’s got her believing... ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1427 "2006-09-16T12:56:04Z")
Wasn’t sure which of the Duke threads to resurrect, sorry if I picked the wrong one (I didn’t follow the conversations here all that closely), but there was an article in the New Yorker about this case that I found fascinating, and I thought of you guys. It’s been published online if you’d like to read it. [Here’s a link](http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060904fa_fact) ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1428 "2006-09-16T13:45:28Z")
[QUOTE=fessie] Wasn’t sure which of the Duke threads to resurrect, sorry if I picked the wrong one (I didn’t follow the conversations here all that closely), but there was an article in the New Yorker about this case that I found fascinating, and I thought of you guys. It’s been published online if you’d like to read it. [Here’s a link](http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060904fa_fact) [/QUOTE] It googling it appears that 09/24/2006 60 minutes will have a special on the case. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1429 "2006-09-16T13:45:58Z")
[QUOTE=fessie] Wasn’t sure which of the Duke threads to resurrect, sorry if I picked the wrong one (I didn’t follow the conversations here all that closely), but there was an article in the New Yorker about this case that I found fascinating, and I thought of you guys. [/QUOTE] Some will find it more fascinating than others, I daresay. ---
**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1430 "2006-12-14T01:33:45Z")
I saw this in the news again today and I’m so furious about that scumbag prosecutor that I feel like I have to vent somewhere. Probably because, on a much, much, much smaller scale, something like this is happening to my son right now. [More evidence that Nifong is a lying asshole](http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/13/D8M06O7G0.html) And, [Congressman Walter Jones is trying to hold Nifong accountable](http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/12/13/request-to-doj-investigate-mike-nifong/) I am rarely a vengeful person, but I hope that Nifong suffers for eons for this. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1431 "2006-12-14T02:09:39Z")
[QUOTE=Plan B] I saw this in the news again today and I’m so furious about that scumbag prosecutor that I feel like I have to vent somewhere. Probably because, on a much, much, much smaller scale, something like this is happening to my son right now. [More evidence that Nifong is a lying asshole](http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/13/D8M06O7G0.html) And, [Congressman Walter Jones is trying to hold Nifong accountable](http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/12/13/request-to-doj-investigate-mike-nifong/) I am rarely a vengeful person, but I hope that Nifong suffers for eons for this. [/QUOTE] [This gentleman](http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/) has an excellent blog on the Duke Hoax. Fascinating reading for anyone who is interested. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1432 "2006-12-14T02:18:41Z")
[Here](http://www.newsobserver.com/100/story/521017.html) is a more complete news account. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1433 "2006-12-14T02:38:34Z")
Wow. This makes me so happy I can’t even describe it. I’m just sad that Nifong isn’t looking at jail time. Maybe a federal trial for depriving someone of their civil rights? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1434 "2006-12-14T02:48:13Z")
[QUOTE=Plan B] I saw this in the news again today and I’m so furious about that scumbag prosecutor that I feel like I have to vent somewhere. Probably because, on a much, much, much smaller scale, something like this is happening to my son right now. [More evidence that Nifong is a lying asshole](http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/13/D8M06O7G0.html) And, [Congressman Walter Jones is trying to hold Nifong accountable](http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/12/13/request-to-doj-investigate-mike-nifong/) I am rarely a vengeful person, but I hope that Nifong suffers for eons for this. [/QUOTE] I’m confused. Didn’t we already know that DNA testing came up negative wrt the accused guys when this thread was active, several months ago? I can’t bring myself to wade back thru it, but I’m pretty sure I’m right about that. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1435 "2006-12-14T02:58:19Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I’m confused. Didn’t we already know that DNA testing came up negative wrt the accused guys when this thread was active, several months ago? I can’t bring myself to wade back thru it, but I’m pretty sure I’m right about that. [/QUOTE] Yes we did. What we did not know was that DNA from other males was found, and that the DA did not include those findings when he turned over the exculpatory evidence. Read the link I provided from the News and Observer. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1436 "2006-12-14T02:59:29Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I’m confused. Didn’t we already know that DNA testing came up negative wrt the accused guys when this thread was active, several months ago? I can’t bring myself to wade back thru it, but I’m pretty sure I’m right about that. [/QUOTE] IIRC I believe the difference is that ages ago it was “no, we don’t have matching DNA to the suspects” but now we have “we have DNA, BUT none matches ANY of the team members” which calls into question not only the womans’ contention of identification about the specific team members actions but her whole statement about “I didn’t have consensual sexual relations relations with anyone in the time preceding” the alledged attackl whichsuggests that either she’s lying about everything , or the guys that (alledgedly) raped her were not lacrosse team members , contrary to her original acoount. And subsequent accounts as well. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1437 "2006-12-14T16:38:44Z")
Got it. My memory must be faulty on this one because I thought that it was reported DNA was found, but that it didn’t match any of the frat guys. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1438 "2006-12-14T16:42:34Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Got it. My memory must be faulty on this one because I thought that it was reported DNA was found, but that it didn’t match any of the frat guys. [/QUOTE] Upon reflection, I think you are correct. It seems to me that her boyfriend’s DNA was found. This may have been in the first round of testing, done by the SBI. The results in question came from a private laboratory. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1439 "2006-12-14T16:44:52Z")
Holy crap. This thread is on its **29th** page. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1440 "2006-12-14T17:43:35Z")
[QUOTE=Lemur866] Holy crap. This thread is on its **29th** page. [/QUOTE] Perhaps we can revisit the question concerning the odds of a Black woman lying about being raped by a White guy. :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153.md?page=73)