# Lying whore. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2006, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153 "2006-04-10T22:26:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1441 "2006-12-14T18:25:05Z")
There was a legal analyst, I forget her name, on MSNBC this morning who dismissed the DNA evidence on the basis that (paraphrase) sure, DNA from 4 men was found in the her anus, vagina, pubic hair, and panties, but that does not mean it was a result of sexual activity. There could be another explanation. Furthermore, the lack of DNA from the accused students is not proof that there was no sexual activity on their part. :rolleyes: She also flatly refused to answer the host’s questions concerning the (apparent) conspiracy between the lab and the DA to withhold excuplatory evidence. Maybe this whole DNA thing ain’t what it is cracked up to be. Nifong publically stated that the DNA results would absolutely identify the perpetrators. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1442 "2006-12-14T19:47:41Z")
[QUOTE=Plan B] I saw this in the news again today and I’m so furious about that scumbag prosecutor that I feel like I have to vent somewhere. Probably because, on a much, much, much smaller scale, something like this is happening to my son right now. [More evidence that Nifong is a lying asshole](http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/13/D8M06O7G0.html) And, [Congressman Walter Jones is trying to hold Nifong accountable](http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/12/13/request-to-doj-investigate-mike-nifong/) I am rarely a vengeful person, but I hope that Nifong suffers for eons for this. [/QUOTE] and I thought lying whore referred to CM!!! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1443 "2006-12-14T19:53:41Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] There was a legal analyst, I forget her name, on MSNBC this morning who dismissed the DNA evidence on the basis that (paraphrase) sure, DNA from 4 men was found in the her anus, vagina, pubic hair, and panties, but that does not mean it was a result of sexual activity. There could be another explanation. Furthermore, the lack of DNA from the accused students is not proof that there was no sexual activity on their part. :rolleyes: She also flatly refused to answer the host’s questions concerning the (apparent) conspiracy between the lab and the DA to withhold excuplatory evidence. Maybe this whole DNA thing ain’t what it is cracked up to be. Nifong publically stated that the DNA results would absolutely identify the perpetrators. Oh well. [/QUOTE] perhaps she used to work at Valcome 😛 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1444 "2006-12-14T20:04:48Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] sure, DNA from 4 men was found in the her anus, vagina, pubic hair, and panties, but that does not mean it was a result of sexual activity. [/QUOTE] This is so totally gross. Everyone should change their underwear and shower at least once a day. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1445 "2006-12-15T05:44:52Z")
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman] This is so totally gross. Everyone should change their underwear and shower at least once a day. [/QUOTE] She probably did shower and change, but that was before noon… According to this evening’s news, Lying Whore had a baby today. Exactly nine months after the four different DNA types were found. Brings a whole new meaning to the term: _Who’s Your Daddy._ ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1446 "2006-12-15T20:14:17Z")
Eeeewwww… that is so fucking wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1447 "2006-12-15T21:11:59Z")
[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] She probably did shower and change, but that was before noon… According to this evening’s news, Lying Whore had a baby today. Exactly nine months after the four different DNA types were found. Brings a whole new meaning to the term: _Who’s Your Daddy._ [/QUOTE] As it turns out, the child is due in February. She checked into UNC Medical Center for pregancy related issues. A judge has ordered her to undergo paternity testing. Bigger news is the revelation in court today that Nifong and Meehan, the director of DNA Security, agreed not to provide the reports of the DNA tests for the multiple males whose DNA \*was \*discovered. This raises the question of whether Nifong knew about the results when he went before the gand jury (almost certainly, he did), and whether he informed the grand jury of the findings. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1448 "2006-12-15T21:15:28Z")
from the [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/12/15/duke.lacrosse.ap/index.html) story: > [@](#): > > A judge ordered testing Friday to determine whether three Duke lacrosse players fathered the child of a woman who accuses them of rape – a prospect defense attorneys dismissed as an “absolute impossibility.” That lead sentence could use a good rewrite. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1449 "2006-12-15T22:06:20Z")
> [@](#): > > A judge ordered testing Friday to determine whether three Duke lacrosse players fathered the child of a woman who accuses them of rape …leading to my question: WHY? What the fuck? No DNA from any of the accused players was found on the “victim,” but this judge thinks there is somehow a possibility that one of them impregnated her? How? Sperm telekinesis? ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1450 "2006-12-15T22:14:33Z")
[QUOTE=Beadalin] …leading to my question: WHY? What the fuck? No DNA from any of the accused players was found on the “victim,” but this judge thinks there is somehow a possibility that one of them impregnated her? How? Sperm telekinesis? [/QUOTE] The defense attorneys requested it. My opinion is that they can feel their jaws closing around Nifong’s neck and they want to shake every bone in his body loose. They know their clients are innocent. They want to establish in the public eye that they are innocent. Another negative test will tend to support that, even if it haq no real bearing on the case. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1451 "2006-12-15T22:24:39Z")
> [@](#): > > The defense attorneys requested it. Oops. Sorry, I got so riled by the headline that I missed that. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1452 "2006-12-15T22:26:11Z")
Can this idiot Nifong be prosecuted for this? I’d love to see this guy pay for his crimes. Another point: the fact that the three stooges (AKA Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakan) didn’t show up, made me realize it was a big lie. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1453 "2006-12-15T22:40:16Z")
good point **ralph124c** - I think Sharpton didn’t want another Tawana Brawley, and I think Jackson just embarassed himself recently by defending Maurice Clarett. My question is: knowing there is zero evidence, even if the idiot was successful in bringing the case to trial, is he so out of it to think any jury in the country short of the OJ jury, would convict without any proof? ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1454 "2006-12-15T23:06:40Z")
> [@](#): > > **Contrapuntal** said: > This raises the question of whether Nifong knew about the results when he went before the gand jury (almost certainly, he did), and whether he informed the grand jury of the findings. I’m no lawyer, but I think that might be prosecutorial misconduct? > [@](#): > > As it turns out, the child is due in February. She checked into UNC Medical Center for pregancy related issues. A judge has ordered her to undergo paternity testing. The thing that puzzles me though is… this baby is due in February? Even if the due date is put at February 1, and we assume that the sperm lived in the accuser for seven days before conception happened, that’d put the maximum last date of conception after the Duke Lacrosse party at March 21, right? Now I’m also no doctor, but doesn’t human gestation last 40 weeks? March 21 to Feb 1 is, rounded to the nearest week, 46 weeks. Bwuh? How could anyone who had sex with The Liar on March 14 2006 be the father of a baby due in February of 2007? ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1455 "2006-12-15T23:19:01Z")
[QUOTE=catsix] I’m no lawyer, but I think that might be prosecutorial misconduct? [/QUOTE] There is a school of thought that believes just that. And that thatis not all, by a long shot. > [@](#): > > The thing that puzzles me though is… this baby is due in February? Even if the due date is put at February 1, and we assume that the sperm lived in the accuser for seven days before conception happened, that’d put the maximum last date of conception after the Duke Lacrosse party at March 21, right? > > Now I’m also no doctor, but doesn’t human gestation last 40 weeks? March 21 to Feb 1 is, rounded to the nearest week, 46 weeks. > > Bwuh? How could anyone who had sex with The Liar on March 14 2006 be the father of a baby due in February of 2007? No one thinks that the lacrosse players are potential fathers. Nifong doesn’t think that the lacrosse players are potential fathers. He has stated as much. The defense attorneys are just getting their pound of flesh,as it were. **catsix** , if you have the time, [this](http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/) blog is dense with information. The writer’s studiousness, persistence, and thirst for detail are superlative. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1456 "2006-12-15T23:22:06Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] My question is: knowing there is zero evidence, even if the idiot was successful in bringing the case to trial, is he so out of it to think any jury in the country short of the OJ jury, would convict without any proof? [/QUOTE] He might have a shot if there is no change of venue. Seriously. Although if it does come to trial, I cannot imagine that the accuser would show up. There is no way she wants to face those defense attorneys. If she refuses to testify, Nifong can shrug his shoulders and say that at least he tried. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1457 "2006-12-16T02:43:52Z")
[QUOTE=ralph124c] …the fact that the three stooges (AKA Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakan) didn’t show up, made me realize it was a big lie. [/QUOTE] If they had shown up, what would have realized then? CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1458 "2006-12-16T03:04:41Z")
More goodness re Nifong [Head of DNA lab says he and Nifong agreed not to report results](http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/521773.html) > [@](#): > > The head of a private DNA laboratory said under oath today that he and District Attorney Mike Nifong agreed not to report DNA results favorable to Duke lacrosse players charged with rape. > Brian Meehan, director of DNA Security of Burlington, said his lab found DNA from unidentified men in the underwear, pubic hair and rectum of the woman who said she was gang-raped at a lacrosse party in March. Nurses at Duke Hospital collected the samples a few hours after the alleged assault. Meehan said the DNA did not come from Reade Seligmann, David Evans, or Collin Finnerty, who have been charged with rape and sexual assault in the case. > > Meehan struggled to say why he didn’t include the favorable evidence in a report dated May 12, almost a month after Seligmann and Finnerty had been indicted. He cited concerns about the privacy of the lacrosse players, his discussions at several meetings with Nifong, and the fact that he didn’t know whose DNA it was. > > Under questioning by Jim Cooney, a defense attorney for Seligmann, Meehan admitted that his report violated his laboratory’s standards by not reporting results of all tests. > > Did Nifong and his investigators know the results of all the DNA tests? Cooney asked. > > “I believe so,” Meehan said. > > “Did they know the test results excluded Reade Seligmann?” Cooney asked. > > “I believe so,” Meehan said. > > Was the failure to report these results the intentional decision of you and the district attorney? Cooney asked. > > “Yes,” Meehan replied. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1459 "2006-12-22T17:32:45Z")
[Link.](http://www.drudgereport.com/) Developing story. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153/1460 "2006-12-22T17:37:28Z")
Spoke too soon. Only dropping rape charges. Nifong is unbelievable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lying-whore/352153.md?page=74)