Nope. My guess is poster’s regret, and a mod done him a favor. Although what was in the post wasn’t much more than was in the papers, the claim of personal or near-personal access to the document at issue may have been something later regretted. I can’t have been the only person to have seen the post!
Nope, I definitely saw it and I remember it.
Is their a way to find the cached version of this thread?
What was the gist of it, if you are comfortable in relating it?
FYI, Huerta88, I think I know what you with the face was alluding to in this exchange you had:
Not to Godwinize the thread, but FYI, the number “88” is a known Neo-Nazi symbol:
Now, of course having “88” in your username might be a complete coincidence, but since you with the face has apparently bowed out of the thread, I thought I’d explain why they pointed it out.
Using broad racial statistics to try to draw inferences about a specific case, involving interracial violence and your apparent presumption that the white male alleged attackers have a presumption of innocence if accused of attacking a black woman (based solely on broad statistics and not the facts in this specific matter), could be seen as Neo-Nazi in sentiment.
Again, I’m not saying this is definitely the case, as you could easily have not known how “88” is sometimes used - I never heard of it myself until a thread a couple years ago (? - can’t remember exaclty when) on the SDMB.
It was deleted for a reason, I’m sure, so I’ll leave it where it is out of respect for that.
Understood. As an aside, it would be nice if the mods would put in a “this post deleted” message or some such.
Thanks for providing that info for the benefit of those who don’t know, Waenara. But I don’t think Huerta is as clueless (about that particularly thing, at least) as he portrays himself to be. He’s already been given somestraight dope.
Thanks for the official confirmation that you’ve got nothing more substantive than attacking my hotmail-assigned address.
The racial statistics (still unrefuted, BTW) were a secondary and minor point in my reasons for wondering whether this story had the ring of truth.
The article purporting to show that half of campus rape allegations (that’s 50%, folks) were unfounded was the first thing I cited as a basis for my fishy eye toward this particular (and I must reiterate, still-unproven) allegation, in the absence (I apparently must reiterate, for the hard-of-thinking) of definitive proof to the contrary. I welcome someone’s attempt to provide contra arguments (with cites, please – I’m funny that way) to that article. So far, none of the brain surgeons here have, contenting themselves instead with attacking my username.
Personally I thought it was dead classy to drop out of the debate, only to check back into the thread in order to call your adversary a neo-Nazi. I must use that myself some time.
But all of those flow from whether the allegation (while still unsubstantiated, and not incredibly plausible) is granted [a lot of credibility] vs. [not much credibility]. Would the case be “tried in the media” if the local authorities and the press didn’t immediately assume and act as though it were some modern-day rape/lynching of a slave-girl? Would the coach have had to resign, if it were treated as just-an-unproven-allegation? The whole point is that sexual assaults and allegations thereof occur every day, yet this alleged sexual assault has assumed above-the-fold coverage, for a complex of reasons that have to do with race, sensationalism, our attitudes and assumptions about rape, etc., and which are based (implicitly, because WTF would we be doing talking about it, at all, otherwise?) on the assumption that there is a there there. if there isn’t a there there, then there’s no reason to talk about the meta-issues or ancillary issues.
Query whether the accuser was tested for drugs / alcohol when examined?
I have not seen anything on this point.
I never called him a neo-Nazi and I never said that I’m leaving the thread. Pay attention.
You may want to actually read the stuff he’s posting before you defend him.
FWIW, the Durham Police Crimestoppers Unit has consederably altered its wording with respect to the case.
You are a Nazi rapist.
I’ve read it. Can I defend him?
Sure, go right ahead. Can you start with these gems of wisdom first?
Does this sounds logical to you, even after reading my response to it?
bolding mine
How does the above square with your sense of logic, Greathouse? Is there something innate about white men that makes it implausible that they could ever be involved in a rape with a black woman, regardless of other factors at play? Do you think that Huerta’s conclusion is without fault?
What the hell is an “average case” and how could you use broad statistics to predict the veracity of a given allegation, with or without other evidence? (A caveat which he apparently thinks makes his argument less specious, when it really does not.)
You were troo engaging me and my arguments, we were told?
Promises, promises.
No skin off my back, you still gots nothing.
“When it really does not.” There’s a devastating, and specific, refutation.
Your insurance company makes predictions about the probable outcome of a given proposition, applied to particular individuals (viz., when you will die, how often you will crash your car) every day. They make billions of dollars doing so, even though they do not in reality know anything about your personal situation beyond broad demographic characteristics you possess.
Me, unless I have specific evidence that you’ve got a tumor, or don’t plan to ever drive your car, I’ll go with what the actuaries say as a first cut if asked to handicap these events.