# Lynch in effigy white Repub woman? A-OK in W Hollywood!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 27, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715 "2008-10-27T02:37:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/21 "2008-10-27T04:20:36Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> A movie with a narrative is one thing. If a liberal political parody film had a judge shooting a zombie Sarah Palin, I might be personally offended (or I might not) but wouldn’t think it’s a big deal. It’s one scene in the context of an entire parody. I’m not raising hell about the Larry Flynt porn film “Nailin’ Palin”. (No, I DON’T plan to see it. _L_)
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> However, the effigy-lynching of a candidate for public office is out-and-out hate speech. There is no larger context or narrative. It’s just a sign of hatred. I’m not saying it should be illegal. I am saying that it should be disdained by anyone with a sense of decency.

I’m just not buying it. The scene about the ACLU lawyers was included because lots of conservatives hate the ACLU. These guys hung Palin as a witch for Halloween. Both have a larger political and cultural context. The only significant difference there is political perspective, nothing else.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/22 "2008-10-27T04:30:04Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Those would be obvious parody. Lynching isn’t.

It’s still pretty obvious.

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> I think if these fellows had done the same with an Obama-effigy, they’d be harrassed mercilessly by their neighbors.

Yes, because there is a historical context for the lynching of black men that doesn’t exit for white women. I can’t get sound for the video, but they’re not expressing a wish for her to be lynched, they’re just making a tactless decoration for Halloween.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/23 "2008-10-27T04:41:39Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> You have to wait through the ad. Then the video starts.

I think the people you’re responding to are having the same problem as me–I get a commercial, and after this, I get nothing.

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/24 "2008-10-27T04:48:25Z")

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Is this universal hatred and ugliness, on all sides of the political spectrum, a feature of American life all the time, or only leading up to elections?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/25 "2008-10-27T05:09:26Z")

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Did that video cut away briefly to a mannequin of John McCain surrounded by what I hope were intended to represent the flames of hell?

😃

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/26 "2008-10-27T05:09:53Z")

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> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#):
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> Is this universal hatred and ugliness, on all sides of the political spectrum, a feature of American life all the time, or only leading up to elections?

I don’t know if two guys in California count as “universal”.

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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/27 "2008-10-27T05:10:25Z")

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The reporting of this story was unclear.

Are there any heterosexual males in W Hollywood?

PS: I got an ad for the Navy, then the news report.

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/28 "2008-10-27T05:15:07Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I don’t know if two guys in California count as “universal”.

I wasn’t talking about the two guys, I was talking about the casual, unironic ‘anything goes when it’s against my political opponent’ attitude.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/29 "2008-10-27T05:45:37Z")

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Sure, but we’re gonna make that illegal when we take over. Gotta round up all the guns first, though.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/30 "2008-10-27T06:07:16Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Did that video cut away briefly to a mannequin of John McCain surrounded by what I hope were intended to represent the flames of hell?
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> 😃

I don’t know about Hellfire but yeah, John McCain was shown in a fire.

But hey, John McCain lived under through worse for 5 1/2 years. 😃

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/31 "2008-10-27T06:12:24Z")

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Was he under some stressful conditions at some point in his life? How come he never talks about it?

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/32 "2008-10-27T06:48:19Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> You have to wait through the ad. Then the video starts.

Didn’t for me. Just repeats the ad.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/33 "2008-10-27T06:58:41Z")

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I get the Navy ad, but with a Village People sound track.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/34 "2008-10-27T07:31:57Z")

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I honestly can’t muster any outrage about this, at all. Burn/hang/nuke any effigy you damn well feel like. For fuck’s sake, that’s why it’s called an effigy and not a person. Might it show bad taste and a huge level of hatred? Sure. But then again, with the way that American politics have gotten, I really can’t bring myself to get all hot and bothered that people are expressing their views, legally, and without actual violence.

For my money’s worth, I’m much, much more disturbed by statements along the lines of “Obama is a secret Muslim/terrorist/Arab/Marxist/America-hater, and _something must be done!_”

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/35 "2008-10-27T07:47:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **elucidator** : …but with a Village People sound track.

Hey, I draw the line!

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/36 "2008-10-27T14:38:09Z")

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My commercial was a psychedelic bus full of babies in diapers! :eek: Now _that’s_ scary.

Looks tacky and kinda lame to me. She’s not dressed to suggest she’s supposed to be a “witch” either. These guys could have done something more creative and halloween-y than this.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/37 "2008-10-28T02:08:46Z")

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That damned eeeeevil librul Keith Olbermann declared the “artist” to be “The Worst Person in the World.” [insert obligatory Claude Rains quote about being shocked here]

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/38 "2008-10-28T02:19:46Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> That damned eeeeevil librul Keith Olbermann declared the “artist” to be “The Worst Person in the World.” [insert obligatory Claude Rains quote about being shocked here]

Damn you for beating me to posting this.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/39 "2008-10-28T02:23:54Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> Damn you for beating me to posting this.

😛

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynch-in-effigy-white-repub-woman-a-ok-in-w-hollywood/469715/40 "2008-10-28T02:49:58Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Yes, because there is a historical context for the lynching of black men that doesn’t exit for white women. I can’t get sound for the video, but they’re not expressing a wish for her to be lynched, they’re just making a tactless decoration for Halloween.

So, it’s ok to lynch Palin in effigy because she’s not a black man?

Would it simply be a tasteless decoration to have Obama getting raped in effigy as a lawn ornament? He’s not a woman.

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