# Lyndon Larouch and the **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 21, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232 "2004-04-21T15:59:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/1 "2004-04-21T15:59:39Z")
IToday was a beautiful spring morning, full of promise, the bird calls and heady scent of flowers portending new beginnings and a renewal of body and spirit. As I walked to the Metro station to catch the Orange line train that wouild transport me to work, my appreciation of this fine, sunny morning was spoiled when I saw . . . them. The Larouchies. A trio of geezers blocked the station entrance, shouting that Lyndon LaRouche has a plan for Iraq as they shoved their printed propaganda at passersby. After I exited at Court House station, another set of septagenarians were there pestering folks just trying to get to their jobs. Do these people not know that [Lyndon LaRouche](http://larouchein2004.net/) is nuts, off his gourd, a few fries short of a Happy meal? And why is it always, and I mean always, crotchety old folks evangelizing for Larouche like the cult leader he really is? Is retirement that boring that these nursing home refugees have to join looney tune fringe parties? Whatever happened to playing canasta or do-it-yourself projects in the garage? If they have to put their innate fussbudgetry to work, why not campaign for a candidate who isn’t certifiably insane? I’m not picking on old people, just wondering why so many of his cultists are elderly folks who ought to know better than to support a total loon for President. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/2 "2004-04-21T16:03:08Z")
Holy Shit! Larouch stole your title too!!! ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/3 "2004-04-21T16:05:28Z")
It’s supposed to say “Lyndon Larouche and the Metamucil Brigade”–maybe he’s been right all along and the Illuminati are after us all!!! Nah. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/4 "2004-04-21T16:06:47Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > IToday was a beautiful spring morning, full of promise, the bird calls and heady scent of flowers portending new beginnings and a renewal of body and spirit. As I walked to the Metro station to catch the Orange line train that wouild transport me to work, my appreciation of this fine, sunny morning was spoiled when I saw . . . them. > The Larouchies… This may seem like a shameless plug, but [it seems that there is something about these folks that make us break in to purple prose.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=182909) Odd, huh? ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/5 "2004-04-21T16:20:51Z")
Last summer, we took a day’s vacation in a charming little town. As we walked up the street, we saw that the Laruchies had two separate tables set up, buttonholing passersby about the evils of Bush and I think exhorting them to register to vote. OK, nothing too weird about that. EXCEPT, that this charming little villiage was in Quebec. Quebec is in Canada\*. Last time I looked, Canadians can’t vote in American elections. So whatinhell do the Laruchies think they are doing??? \*that could change, but that’s a whole 'nother story… ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/6 "2004-04-21T16:25:03Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > And why is it always, and I mean always, crotchety old folks evangelizing for Larouche It’s not. He’s popular among the college-aged set as well. In fact, anytime I see any Larouche literature, it’s always around those in their late teens/early twenties, or in the universities that they inhabit. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/7 "2004-04-21T17:01:35Z")
. . . Chamber of Secrets? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/8 "2004-04-21T17:09:05Z")
Um, **go**? I posted like this exact same thread a few months ago, but the gerbils won’t give it up when I search. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/9 "2004-04-21T17:39:56Z")
**Re: Lyndon Larouche and the** . . . Parliament Funkadelic? . . . Blowfish? . . . Heartbreakers? . . . Sunshine Band? . . . Band of Renown? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/10 "2004-04-21T17:53:15Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Um, **go**? I posted like this exact same thread a few months ago, but the gerbils won’t give it up when I search. [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=202786) one? ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/11 "2004-04-21T18:03:43Z")
Course there’s also how it appears in the thread list in the forum: **Lyndon Larouch and the** gobear That’s one weird image, let me tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/12 "2004-04-21T18:55:17Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > **Lyndon Larouch** > and the gobear Worst. Children’s book. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/13 "2004-04-21T19:04:43Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > Course there’s also how it appears in the thread list in the forum: > > **Lyndon Larouch and the** > gobear > > That’s one weird image, let me tell you. The current sequential thread titles read as Lyndon Larouch and the Baptists looked through my mailbox this morning. Hee. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/14 "2004-04-21T19:10:31Z")
Okay, I apologize in advance for my ignorance. But I’d like my ignorance dispelled. How, exactly, is LaRouche nuts? I’ve run into his supporters before, and found them annoying leftist fanatics, but nothing they’ve ever said- “Bush is evil, Cheney really runs the show, Bush is selling us out to Big Oil”- is anything I wouldn’t be surprised to hear from a Nader supporter or even Diogenes or elucidator. I know LaRouche spent some time in jail for campaign contribution violations, and that he blames that on Democrats in Virginia conspiring to keep him out of elections, but even that doesn’t strike me as an outlandish claim in the land of Marion Barry. The only thing I’ve heard a supporter say that struck me as a bit off was someone shouting about how what we needed was a return to the economic policies of FDR, “which worked for us then, and will work for us now!” To which I could only think, “but we’ve _already_ electrified the South.” ---
**Author:** ![absimia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbe5ce/32.png) [@absimia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/absimia)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/15 "2004-04-21T19:25:10Z")
> [@John Corrado](#): > > How, exactly, is LaRouche nuts? The summary is that he’s a paranoid personality with huge delusions of granduer. His theories about how the world _really_ works would put a lesser conspiracy theorist to shame. You can read some of that in his pamphlet called “Convict him or Kill him: The night they came to kill me”. [http://larouchein2004.net/pages/other/2004/0403killhim.htm](http://larouchein2004.net/pages/other/2004/0403killhim.htm) You can also read the entry here > **[Lyndon LaRouche](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche)** > > Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Jr. (September 8, 1922 – February 12, 2019) was an American political activist who founded the LaRouche movement and its main organization the National Caucus of Labor Committees (NCLC). > Born in Rochester, New Hampshire, LaRouche became sympathetic to socialist and Marxist movements and ideals in his twenties during World War II and by the 1960s became engaged in increasingly smaller and more radical splinter groups. During the 1970s he created the foundation of the La... I find him rather amusing, in a sad sort of way. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/16 "2004-04-21T19:27:35Z")
Larouuche is [paranoid](http://larouchein2004.net/pages/other/2004/0403killhim.htm), for one thing. He also has [delusions of grandeur](http://larouchein2004.net/pages/biography.htm). He thinks that the OKC bombing was perpetrated by the [British government.](http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur50.htm), and he pretty much thinks the UK is behind most of the evil in the owlrd. More can be found on him [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche). ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/17 "2004-04-21T19:33:09Z")
Dang, beat me by 2 minutes! ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/18 "2004-04-21T19:34:10Z")
**John** , if you ever see me defending the argument that the Queen of England is the kingpin of an international heroin ring, or starting threads about how “they” tried to kill me, then you can call Lyndon LaRouche a leftie. Dude is flat-out nuts. Bunch of us ISO members were out at a rally in front of the White House a couple of weeks ago, and a young LaRouche “supporter” who was helping table nearby fell into conversation with us. He informed us that he was pretty much homeless, and that the LaRouche campaign had offered to provide him with room and board in return for tabling and passing out LaRouche literature. :mad: That shit just burns my ass. Not only is he nuts, he exploits people so he can get his political message out. Not to mention those goddamn car-mounted megaphones playing messages he recorded driving around for hours on end. ---
**Author:** ![absimia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbe5ce/32.png) [@absimia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/absimia)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/19 "2004-04-21T19:42:07Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Dang, beat me by 2 minutes! Horray! first time I ever beat any of you speedy typin’ bastardos to anything!! Pardon me while I got dance a small victory dance, then I’m going to visit your link and read The Rest of the Story on the OKC bombing. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232/20 "2004-04-21T19:54:39Z")
From gobear’s last link (also linked in my thread on the subject: > [@](#): > > Many left groups have characterized LaRouche’s movement and ideology as fascist or neo-fascist. They describe several qualities that they say define him as an independent, anti-communist political agitator. These include, firstly, his alleged organized physical attacks on left groups. Leftists see this sort of political violence as a hallmark of fascism, and compare it to attacks by Mussolini’s Black shirts and Hitler’s Brown shirts against socialists and communists. > > Secondly, LaRouche’s financial base of support comes from smaller proprietors and family businesses, groups that Hitler and Mussolini initially based themselves upon before their movements picked up momentum. After Hitler and Mussolini were recognized by their respective nations [_sic_] largest productive and investment firms as salvation from and a bulwark against the anarchy and left-socialism of the masses below, their base of support also later then came to include the largest and wealthiest firms. LaRouche has also publicly outlined a strategy to eventually garner support from the large and wealthy domestic industrialist firms, which he considers the base of the “physical economy” (see more on physical economy below). > > Thirdly, critics see the alleged violence against leftists as a tacit message to ruling sectors that he can control and contain a mass movement in their interests while crushing opposition mass movements. > > Lastly, critics say that his philosophy is consistent with the basic fascist prototype. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lyndon-larouch-and-the/241232.md?page=2)