# Lynn B - Improper Closing of newscrasher's thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2006, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101 "2006-10-03T13:29:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/1 "2006-10-03T13:29:45Z")
**Lynn** , I think you should reconsider **newscrasher** ’s tread closing. It was obvious that he wasn’t commenting on any of the individual stories, but on the fact that one can watch 4 separate news stations and only the same 1/2 dozen or so stories repeated ad nauseum. It was a pit of the homogenous nature of our main infotainment sources. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/2 "2006-10-03T13:45:25Z")
I didn’t read his thread that way, though on re-reading it, I can see where you’re coming from. It’s certainly a valid complaint, and a valid pitting, if not the clearest way to say it. If newcrasher confirms that this is his complaint, I think it should be reopened. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/3 "2006-10-03T13:50:55Z")
[QUOTE=Cheesesteak] If newcrasher confirms that this is his complaint, I think it should be reopened. [/QUOTE] Nah, let him rewrite it so that we don’t have to be inordinately perceptive to figure out why it isn’t just some random crap he chose to dump into the pit. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/4 "2006-10-03T13:50:59Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] **Lynn** , I think you should reconsider **newscrasher** ’s tread closing. It was obvious that he wasn’t commenting on any of the individual stories, but on the fact that one can watch 4 separate news stations and only the same 1/2 dozen or so stories repeated ad nauseum. It was a pit of the homogenous nature of our main infotainment sources. [/QUOTE] Linkages? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/5 "2006-10-03T13:53:47Z")
Given that it’s not the first time he’s shown up, given facile one-sentence summaries of current news stories, and then pulled a “hit-and-run OP” with them, I personally think that Lynn was under no obligation to attribute a particular motive to him, but rather well within her rights to do a lockdown. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/6 "2006-10-03T13:56:15Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Linkages? [/QUOTE] [In case you haven’t tried going back to the BBQ page and scrolling down a couple of lines.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390720) ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/7 "2006-10-03T14:06:56Z")
Sorry, **Contra** , my cerebral flatulence; thanks **Lute**. **Polycarp** , I don’t recognize any posting pattern of **newscrasher** , so I’ll take your work for it. I was reading that OP in a vacuum. **Squink** , I don’t feel a SDMB poster has to write to the lowest common denominator; however, if the OP of the original thread does have a pattern of obtuse posting, I can understand the closing. ---
**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/8 "2006-10-03T15:14:13Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] Given that it’s not the first time he’s shown up, given facile one-sentence summaries of current news stories, and then pulled a “hit-and-run OP” with them, I personally think that Lynn was under no obligation to attribute a particular motive to him, but rather well within her rights to do a lockdown. [/QUOTE] w\What the fuck are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/9 "2006-10-03T15:16:12Z")
For the record, I had not seen this thread when I posted my own OP protesting the closing. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/10 "2006-10-03T15:17:25Z")
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher] [In case you haven’t tried going back to the BBQ page and scrolling down a couple of lines.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390720) [/QUOTE] Gratuitous smartass tone duly noted. Now I’ll have to add requesting a link the the **List of Things Not To Do Lest Lute Get All Pantytwisted.** ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/11 "2006-10-03T15:21:54Z")
Hmmm. Somehow, like newcrasher, I missed the existence of this thread. [QUOTE=D\_Odds] It was obvious that he wasn’t commenting on any of the individual stories, but on the fact that one can watch 4 separate news stations and only the same 1/2 dozen or so stories repeated ad nauseum. [/QUOTE] As I noted in the other complaint thread, I don’t see this at all. He noted the stories, but not the fact that they’re repeated _ad nauseum_. Anyway, maybe if someone asks nicely the thread could be re-opened – with perhaps an explanation from someone as to what the actual point is. ---
**Author:** ![samm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@samm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samm)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/12 "2006-10-03T15:22:36Z")
I can understand that maybe it didn’t sound pitty or it was too vague. If that is the case, why not just move it to MPSIMS? I also don’t understand the comment that it was on the wrong board? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/13 "2006-10-03T15:41:19Z")
> [@](#): > > If that is the case, why not just move it to MPSIMS? I also don’t understand the comment that it was on the wrong board? I think it was a case of “itchy trigger finger” as newscrasher called it in his own thread. The intent of the OP wasn’t obvious; Lynn was having a bad day; and the mods have the power to make snap decisions without consequences. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/14 "2006-10-03T15:47:35Z")
[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] Hmmm. Somehow, like newcrasher, I missed the existence of this thread. As I noted in the other complaint thread, I don’t see this at all. He noted the stories, but not the fact that they’re repeated _ad nauseum_. Anyway, maybe if someone asks nicely the thread could be re-opened – with perhaps an explanation from someone as to what the actual point is. [/QUOTE] A difficulty with an online medium is tone. The reader applies his or her own tone to a post, which quite often isn’t the poster’s tone. In conversation, I would have pretty much said things the way **newscrasher** did. I would expect my audience to make the leap in reasoning, based not just on the words but on the delivery. That’s harder to do in a printed medium, but as a constant user of sarcasm, I spotted it in **nc** ’s OP right away. I have found that there is a sizable minority of the SDMB who fail to recognize sarcasm, even in less nuanced forms than **nc** ’s. This isn’t a personal indictment, **Ponder** ; I really can’t ‘name names’ as I don’t pay attention. It’s just a general observation from my sarcastic postings. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/15 "2006-10-03T15:59:49Z")
Sarcasm my ass. His locked OP said nothing. No comment worthy of discussion, no observation, no rant. No value added. If he’s got something to say, he needs to do a better job of saying it. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/16 "2006-10-03T16:05:52Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Sarcasm my ass. His locked OP said nothing. No comment worthy of discussion, no observation, no rant. No value added. If he’s got something to say, he needs to do a better job of saying it. [/QUOTE] Except that I read it, understood the rant, and agreed with the rant. It said something; it just wasn’t there, on the page, in black and white. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/17 "2006-10-03T16:09:55Z")
I can’t speak for **Lynn** , but before seeing her response and closure, I myself was planning to close the thread myself. The OP had no real content, and if **newcrasher** had intended to make some commentary about the national news – well, he should have made it rather than saving it for later or waiting for other posters to do so. Stating an observation does not make a Pit thread, and frankly we already had threads about most of the individual news topics **newcrasher** mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/18 "2006-10-03T16:13:17Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] Except that I read it, understood the rant, and agreed with the rant. It said something; it just wasn’t there, on the page, in black and white. [/QUOTE] So, \*\*Lynn \*\* chose to close an obscure thread that was not even a proper pit thread. Instead of protesting it, I think **newcrasher** could put in energy into starting a new thread, with a more obvious point and put it in an appropriate forum. I read the closed Op before I saw this pit thread thread, and while \*\*Lynn \*\* could re-open it, it would be just as easy for the new thread to be created. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/19 "2006-10-03T16:20:07Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] Except that I read it, understood the rant, and agreed with the rant. It said something; it just wasn’t there, on the page, in black and white. [/QUOTE] That right there is what the problem is. Isn’t one of the expectations of this board that what you want to say will be there, on the page, in black and white? ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101/20 "2006-10-03T16:23:27Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] So, \*\*Lynn \*\* chose to close an obscure thread that was not even a proper pit thread. Instead of protesting it, I think **newcrasher** could put in energy into starting a new thread, with a more obvious point and put it in an appropriate forum. I read the closed Op before I saw this pit thread thread, and while \*\*Lynn \*\* could re-open it, it would be just as easy for the new thread to be created. Jim [/QUOTE] Hell, I already did it for him (in a now closed thread), using his own words (well, two of mine.): [QUOTE=newscrasher] (from [this OP](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7833299&postcount=1) and [this OP.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7833796&postcount=1) ) I was at the gym this morning so I got to watch CNN, Fox, NBC and CBS all at the same time. I was on the treadmill for over an hour, so I got it all. I feel uniquely qualified to bring you the news of the world today. There was a shooting in an Amish school house. Tragic. Very sad. A Republican Congressman sent naughty emails to a Page. He resigned. According to some channels, there was weather. A large black man is sorry he stomped on the face of another large black man a few days ago. They were playing some sport at the time. Maybe Rugby. [I despise] the way the networks all seem to have the same sources and how they are all really just mirror images of each other. ..the incompetence or complicity of the media is a viable and valid discussion. That is all. [/QUOTE] True, it’s probably more MPSIMSy, rather than Pit material, but I’m pretty sure it’s a valid thread that would stay open, since it has, you know, a _point_. Watchoo think, **fluiddruid** , would this tiny change have made it acceptable? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-b-improper-closing-of-newscrashers-thread/375101.md?page=2)