# Lynn, please provide cites for the rule you have asserted

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**Created:** [February 25, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359 "2009-02-25T13:24:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/21 "2009-02-25T17:44:07Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Or it could mean **Lynn** was aware of such a rule (or past practice at least) and I wasn’t.

Or it could be a “I made the rule up, never actually wrote it down and somehow everyone’s expected to know it” type-thing\* that we all know and love.

If there are to be rules, they MUST be written down in a sticky thread that’s got the date of the most recent update in the title. Or how are we supposed to be able to follow the rules?

If you as a mod aren’t aware of a rule, how can anyone expect us posters to be?  
\*Remember when, out of the blue, a single Mod (Admin?) decided that there were to be no more “joke” threads (by which was meant “humorous”) threads in the Pit and then suspended **Esprix** for him not noticing the non-codified rule? Good times…

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/22 "2009-02-25T17:46:53Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Or it could mean **Lynn** was aware of such a rule (or past practice at least) and I wasn’t.

That means this thread was also missed?

Old? Sure, but still. I think Lynn was around back then.

If you can get search to work then search for “insult” in a thread title. There are four pages of threads. Some were locked but I did not see one that was locked because of a “no insult threads allowed” rule.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/23 "2009-02-25T17:49:44Z")

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Maybe the mods should take down Cecil’s[column all about creative insults](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/921/do-other-languages-have-obscenities-like-those-of-english). It gleefully reflects on all of the worlds most creative insults. And concludes with:

[QUOTE=Cecil]  
Clearly we don’t lack potential, just ambition.  
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Which seems like an open invitation for us to try to do better, no?

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/24 "2009-02-25T17:50:54Z")

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First, game threads are not allowed in the Pit. Second, I thought that my old Pit rules had all been absorbed into the various newer threads about the rules, and I see that they aren’t. I’ve restuck my old Pit Rules thread, and I’ll take this up with the other mod/admins. However, those old rules have been in effect since I first posted them, and have been occasionally enforced.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/25 "2009-02-25T17:54:27Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> First, game threads are not allowed in the Pit. Second, I thought that my old Pit rules had all been absorbed into the various newer threads about the rules, and I see that they aren’t. I’ve restuck my old Pit Rules thread, and I’ll take this up with the other mod/admins. However, those old rules have been in effect since I first posted them, and have been occasionally enforced.

Really? More fucking rules?

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/26 "2009-02-25T17:56:36Z")

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Sorry. The edit timed out. I meant this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=29606&highlight=insult)

I guess this was around before the rules though.

I really see nothing wrong with that thread. It assume it was put in the pit so any “language” would be contained to where it should be, in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/27 "2009-02-25T17:56:59Z")

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Then please folllow the established precedent by moving the thread to the Games Room forum, and retract your statement that “Contests to see who can come up with the most creative insults have never been allowed in any forum.” There is a very big difference between “any forum” and just The Pit.

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/28 "2009-02-25T17:59:00Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> First, game threads are not allowed in the Pit. Second, I thought that my old Pit rules had all been absorbed into the various newer threads about the rules, and I see that they aren’t. I’ve restuck my old Pit Rules thread, and I’ll take this up with the other mod/admins. However, those old rules have been in effect since I first posted them, and have been occasionally enforced.

> [@](#):
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> Pit rules:
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> 1. I don’t want anyone posting that they’re simply in the thread to watch the fireworks. This means no posts like “::pulls up a lawn chair::”
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> 2. No post parodies without links in the original post. Otherwise, I’m likely to close and/or delete the thread, and get royally pissed off at the thread starter.
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> 3. Don’t say or imply that someone is on your ignore list.
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> 4. Absolutely no hate speech.
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> More rules to come as I find that they’re needed.

I take it that no. 3 is an oversite, and shouldn’t be there?

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/29 "2009-02-25T18:03:37Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> No, she’s quite right. There just haven’t been any attempts at ‘creative insult’ threads in recent memory, but they did pop up regularly in the past and got knocked down just as quickly. They’re incredibly pointless threads that are too puerile even for MPSIMS.

Yep. I was mildly surprised when “yo mama” threads started being left open.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/30 "2009-02-25T18:04:13Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Then please folllow the established precedent by moving the thread to the Games Room forum, and retract your statement that “Contests to see who can come up with the most creative insults have never been allowed in any forum.” There is a very big difference between “any forum” and just The Pit.

I don’t think that the Games Room wants it either. But you can go ahead and ask one of the Game Room mods if they want it.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/31 "2009-02-25T18:05:04Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> I take it that no. 3 is an oversite, and shouldn’t be there?

Yep, I just edited that post so that number 4 is number 3 now, and the old number 3 is gone.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/32 "2009-02-25T18:07:56Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Yep. I was mildly surprised when “yo mama” threads started being left open.

Why? “Yo mama” is a legitimate format, widely used, that does have a potential to be clever and witty. Why would it be any less valid than, say, a Limerick thread?

> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> I don’t think that the Games Room wants it either. But you can go ahead and ask one of the Game Room mods if they want it.

Thats misleading, because there are dozens of fine threads in any forum, that, if a mod was asked about, wouldn’t say they particularly “wanted”

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/33 "2009-02-25T18:10:31Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> I don’t think that the Games Room wants it either. But you can go ahead and ask one of the Game Room mods if they want it.

Stop being passive aggressive. That is inappropriate behaviour. Quite frankly, I expect better of you.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/34 "2009-02-25T18:11:52Z")

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> [@Bootis](#):
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> Why? “Yo mama” is a legitimate format, widely used, that does have a potential to be clever and witty. Why would it be any less valid than, say, a Limerick thread?

Because it’s not appropriate to the Pit, and not appropriate for any other forum, either.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/35 "2009-02-25T18:13:37Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Stop being passive aggressive. That is inappropriate behaviour. Quite frankly, I expect better of you.

Really? I was under the impression that you had quite a low opinion of me.

Seriously, I DON’T think that the Game mods want that thread. And I really don’t want that sort of thread ANYWHERE on the SDMB.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/36 "2009-02-25T18:16:33Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> And I really don’t want that sort of thread ANYWHERE on the SDMB.

So you would agree that the Cecil column all about the fun of creative insults I linked to earlier also has no place on this board?

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/37 "2009-02-25T18:19:48Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> And I really don’t want that sort of thread ANYWHERE on the SDMB.

May I ask why?

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/38 "2009-02-25T18:26:44Z")

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> [@Bootis](#):
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> Why? “Yo mama” is a legitimate format, widely used, that does have a potential to be clever and witty.

Becuase I’ve been here long enough to remember when threads dedicated to “lets make up creative insults for the sake of making up creative insults” got locked right quick. I don’t know when or why they started being allowed but I suspect some confusion among TPTB.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/39 "2009-02-25T18:31:32Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Becuase I’ve been here long enough to remember when threads dedicated to “lets make up creative insults for the sake of making up creative insults” got locked right quick. I don’t know when or why they started being allowed but I suspect some confusion among TPTB.

So you have been here since 1999 but missed the thread I linked from 2000 that was in the Pit about making up the best insults and was not locked?

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-please-provide-cites-for-the-rule-you-have-asserted/487359/40 "2009-02-25T18:31:53Z")

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> [@Bootis](#):
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> So you would agree that the Cecil column all about the fun of creative insults I linked to earlier also has no place on this board?

Cecil’s column and the board are separate entites, in case you haven’t noticed.

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