# Lynn seems pretty harsh... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 24, 2004, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783 "2004-04-24T06:38:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/41 "2004-04-25T07:38:18Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > Oh, get off it **Lib**. The fact that she’s got health problems doesn’t change the fact that she does lock more threads and issue more bannings than the other powers that be. The question is not “Why is Lynn such a vicious bitch?” but rather “Why does Lynn lock more threads and issue more bannings than the other mods?” > > It’s a legitimate question, with legitimate answers that have nothing to do with Lynn’s personality or health issues. If Lynn’s health makes her too delicate to deal with legitimate questions about how this board works, it makes her too delicate to continue as an admin. If she’s healthy enough for one, she’s healthy enough for the other. You’re a dick. ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/42 "2004-04-25T07:43:16Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > You’re a dick. Thou art God. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/43 "2004-04-25T07:55:40Z")
> [@lno](#): > > Thou art God. But then again, who isn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Journeyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/779978/32.png) [@Journeyman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Journeyman)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/44 "2004-04-25T10:17:46Z")
_Nervously raises hand_ I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/45 "2004-04-25T10:36:56Z")
> [@leander](#): > > Poor, poor **Lib**. He’s still making up for the time he went off and bitched and moaned about all the Mods. Don’t begrude him his ass-kissing – he’s got a lot of making up to do. Umm, yes- I am sorry, Lib- but I have noticed a very “kiss ass” flavour since you came back. It’s not becoming- it’s not _you_ . Lynn is a good Admin, and does a tough job and does it fairly 99% of the time. I don’t begrudge her the bannings-without-warning of Spamsters, Trolls & Socks. As you all know, I am basicly 'anti" the banning of just about anyone who has been around for a long time and contributed significantly- even if they “go wonko” and self destruct. I think she should be more forgiving of them. But hey, my opinion don’t count for much. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/46 "2004-04-25T13:27:14Z")
> [@Journeyman](#): > > _Nervously raises hand_ > > I’m not. You’re doing it wrong, then. I smote a couple of ticks this morning, and I feel great in my godliness. ---
**Author:** ![htns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@htns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/htns)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/47 "2004-04-25T15:30:39Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > I’m not talking about her tooth, sir or madam. I’m talking about her diabetes, her recent extended hospital stay, the times we didn’t even know whether she would make it. Things she never whines or complains about. She does this thankless job while literally struggling for her life. If being criticized for slamming her pisses you off, that’s just too bad. Not trying to be mean here, but it sounds to me like she needs time off. If I were in her shoes, I’d request leave for medical reasons. If I couldn’t get leave, and my problems were long term, I’d resign my admin position. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/48 "2004-04-25T15:38:01Z")
Oh for chrissake. Ms. Bodoni is a human being. 'Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/49 "2004-04-25T15:40:40Z")
> [@htns](#): > > Not trying to be mean here, but it sounds to me like she needs time off. Someone in this thread needs time off. But it isn’t Lynn. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/50 "2004-04-25T16:02:32Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > As you all know, I am basicly 'anti" the banning of just about anyone who has been around for a long time and contributed significantly- even if they “go wonko” and self destruct. I think she should be more forgiving of them. Which is what they say the **Suspended** status is for. A good idea. Keeps their (both sides) options open. Sometimes decisions on this board seem to be “off the cuff.” But, not being privy to insider conversations, how can can we really say that they are? That doesn’t bother me. What does bother me is the after the fact SOP of “no questions allowed about this, I won’t even answer e-mails about it” that we’ve seen many times. Since the don’t be a jerk “rule” is never going to be completely described, I think it would be beneficial for those asking about certain topics to actually get an answer. Like when **Jarjar** asked about the joke thread _that was moved to the Pit_ and was slapped down for it. I say, answer questions like that. And in the public forums. Then, anyone who has been walking on the edge can take notice of it and change their ways. That being said, I also think that it’s very easy to get really worked up about things said here. Especially when it looks like a personal attack. People will say, “It’s just a message board!” And they are right. But, it is also a community. The interaction is written word only and often not real time, but it’s still interaction. You get to know people. You figure out that some you like, others you haven’t much in common, and some you want to bury in ant hills with honey on their face. A person’s current mood can make a huge difference in who fits in what catagory. I don’t think the nature of the MB format is going to make a huge difference in many people’s lives, but in other’s it will. Have I started rambling yet? Some of us spend a lot of time here. Some come to play, some are earnestly serious, most are in between. While I don’t always agree with Admin or Mods of SDMB, and have been very public about it at times, being on SDMB is worth it. Having created my own MB has modified certain past opinions and positions I held on certain topics (btw, fyi). As for **Lynn** personally, believe it or not, I haven’t had much interaction with her. Not enough to feel I know her anyways. So anything I have to say about her is concerning the Admin Position she holds and nothing about her real life, moods, illnesses, personality, whatever… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/51 "2004-04-25T16:07:36Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > You’re a dick. Modal ontological argument for the existence of penis? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/52 "2004-04-25T16:18:16Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Modal ontological argument for the existence of penis? > > 😃 I’m thinking that a penis is definitely an example of a pre-defined _necessary_ existence. I’d hate to look down one morning and see that I’ve been modally castrated. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/53 "2004-04-25T17:54:18Z")
> [@htns](#): > > H’m…she can seem a little touchy. As a former admin on a now-defunct gaming board, I can understand a little touchiness. Adminning can do that to a person. As far as health problems are concerned, I’ll leave that to **Lynn’s** physician to decide. Doctor/patient confidentiality and all that. > > I’ll agree that she does lock too many threads. My philosophy was that a thread remains open, no matter what. If it’s getting out of hand, it got moved to Flamer’s Paradise (our equivalent of SDMB’s Pit). Nothing got locked, ever. Dunno if that would work on SDMB as it did on a gaming board three years ago, tho. > > Admins do take a lot of abuse. Respect them, and they respect you, if they are worthy of their position. > > If all warnings are sent via email, no problem. If no email is sent, the warning doesn’t count, or so I’ve read. If a mod/admin is banning people without emailing them warnings, that person should not be a mod/admin. What works on one message board won’t necessarily work on another. Different MBs have different members, goals, and atmosphere. In our case, we’ve found it necessary to close excessively long threads, threads started by trolls, and threads that grow too heated. We’ve had quite a bit of experience with the posters around here. We started this message board on AOL in either 96 or 97, and some of us have been on the staff about that long. Warnings are generally posted in the thread where the offense occurred. The reason for this is so that other people can look at the offense and the warning, and take notice. I generally DON’T email warnings, though I have on occasion. EVERY warning, whether it’s posted or emailed, counts. We document warnings in another area, and how many warnings a poster’s had, and for what reason, and how recently, partly determine whether or not a poster gets banned for his or her latest infraction. ---
**Author:** ![htns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@htns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/htns)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/54 "2004-04-25T19:37:57Z")
> [@Lynn Bodoni](#): > > What works on one message board won’t necessarily work on another. Different MBs have different members, goals, and atmosphere. In our case, we’ve found it necessary to close excessively long threads, threads started by trolls, and threads that grow too heated. We’ve had quite a bit of experience with the posters around here. We started this message board on AOL in either 96 or 97, and some of us have been on the staff about that long. Point taken. Thanks for the feedback. > [@](#): > > Warnings are generally posted in the thread where the offense occurred. The reason for this is so that other people can look at the offense and the warning, and take notice. I generally DON’T email warnings, though I have on occasion. EVERY warning, whether it’s posted or emailed, counts. We document warnings in another area, and how many warnings a poster’s had, and for what reason, and how recently, partly determine whether or not a poster gets banned for his or her latest infraction. That’s understandable. However, consider this. Suppose I get in a heated argument in a thread, then stomp off in a huff, never to see that thread again. A warning is posted there after I leave. I never see it. If I do that enough times, I might wind up banned and never know why. I do believe that a “final warning” sent via email is the best thing to do before the ban. Maybe you do this already, maybe not. But if you don’t, please do consider it. At the very least, put up an area where a member can see his/her Warning level. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Optihut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/edb3f5/32.png) [@Optihut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Optihut)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/55 "2004-04-25T20:48:49Z")
> [@htns](#): > > Point taken. Thanks for the feedback. > > That’s understandable. However, consider this. Suppose I get in a heated argument in a thread, then stomp off in a huff, never to see that thread again. A warning is posted there after I leave. I never see it. If I do that enough times, I might wind up banned and never know why. > > I do believe that a “final warning” sent via email is the best thing to do before the ban. Maybe you do this already, maybe not. But if you don’t, please do consider it. At the very least, put up an area where a member can see his/her Warning level. > > Thoughts? Well, if someone is likely to walk away from a thread he posted in and is therefore subscribed to it, there is no guarantee that such a person won’t delete his / her e-mails without reading them. Posting the warning in the open is good enough; if people refuse to read them, then that’s entirely their problem, imho, ymmv. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/56 "2004-04-26T07:33:29Z")
If somebody is the type of person to routinely stomp away from threads in a huff, odds are good that not only are they the type of person we don’t really want around here, we’re not going to much give a damn whether they know why they’re being banned. If they don’t honestly don’t know and are curious, they can email a mod and be referred to the relevant threads. They then have the choice all bannees have: stay banned, or repent and petition for reinstatement. If we’ve been in heated arguments where we might be in danger of crossing the line, it’s our responsibility to follow up and see if we did indeed cross it and get a warning. The mods aren’t our mommies, running around wiping our butts for us. They certainly aren’t obligated to chase us around trying to make sure we know we’ve been warned. We’re grownups; we know when and where we’ve behaved badly. Putting up an area where people can view warning levels would be a waste of our precious bandwidth. We all already know our warning levels, because we know our posting histories. A lot (most?) of us have never posted anything remotely warning-worthy. Pretty much everyone else is well-aware of any warnings they’ve received. And if they’re not, it’s their own damn fault. ---
**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Putain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e19b73/32.png) [@Vladamir\_Putain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vladamir_Putain)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/57 "2004-07-24T03:00:58Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Given all that Lynn has endured and is still enduring, calling her harsh is callous and stupid beyond belief. And I do mean beyond belief. How so? Are the admins above criticism? ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/58 "2004-07-24T03:31:56Z")
Jesus…I’m always one for a bit of nostalgia, but what the fuck is your problem **Vladimir** …digging up old threads for what? WELL? ---
**Author:** ![Vladamir\_Putain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e19b73/32.png) [@Vladamir\_Putain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vladamir_Putain)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/59 "2004-07-24T03:36:15Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Jesus…I’m always one for a bit of nostalgia, but what the fuck is your problem **Vladimir** …digging up old threads for what? > > WELL? So what exactly are the rules about bumping old threads? I didn’t see anything about that topic in the FAQ. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lynn-seems-pretty-harsh/241783/60 "2004-07-24T03:36:24Z")
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