# M \_\_ N \_\_ R \_\_ H **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 25, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965 "2006-07-25T15:34:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/1 "2006-07-25T15:34:32Z")
…can be “monarch” or “menorah.” ---
**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/2 "2006-07-25T15:36:40Z")
I smell m \_\_ r \_\_ j \_\_ a \_\_ a. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/3 "2006-07-25T15:38:22Z")
Nah, actually I’m filling in a cryptic crossword – got the clues a few days ago, but the grid was wrong; just got the corrected grid. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/4 "2006-07-25T15:39:54Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] …can be “monarch” or “menorah.” [/QUOTE] King of the Jews? ---
**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/5 "2006-07-25T15:45:13Z")
You’re creating a crossword? By hand? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/6 "2006-07-25T15:47:18Z")
Could also be Mr. North. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/7 "2006-07-25T15:48:42Z")
So was there a clue maybe? Something to help select between those two options? Any chance at least one letter could be something else? Any chance it is more than one word? My North would fit if it could be made to make sense. Minor Oh or Minor Ah might make for some funny “definitions.” ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/8 "2006-07-25T15:49:47Z")
[QUOTE=Mindfield] You’re creating a crossword? By hand? [/QUOTE] No, I’m test-solving one (a cryptic). I’ve been working on the clues for a couple of days, but just now got the right grid, so I’m filling in the answers I’ve already figured out. I saw “M-N-R-H” reading down and thought “monarch,” but then looked at the clue and realized it was “menorah.” I used to be in the puzzle biz, and still do some test-solving for my former employer with stuff that’s too hard for anyone else. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/9 "2006-07-25T15:49:53Z")
[QUOTE=Ethilrist] Could also be Mr. North. [/QUOTE] I like this better than My North. Especially if the clue is Oliver. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/10 "2006-07-25T16:27:03Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] …can be “monarch” or “menorah.” [/QUOTE] Or menarch. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/11 "2006-07-25T16:30:23Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] Or menarch. [/QUOTE] Nope – that’s “menarche.” ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/12 "2006-07-25T16:35:29Z")
Hmmm. M \_\_ N \_\_ R \_\_ H. If you’re allowing abbreviations, what about MR NORTH? ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/13 "2006-07-25T16:51:30Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] Or menarch. [/QUOTE] I made the same guess, but twicks points out that we missed the e. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/14 "2006-07-25T17:38:57Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] No, I’m test-solving one (a cryptic). I’ve been working on the clues for a couple of days, but just now got the right grid, so I’m filling in the answers I’ve already figured out. I saw “M-N-R-H” reading down and thought “monarch,” but then looked at the clue and realized it was “menorah.” I used to be in the puzzle biz, and still do some test-solving for my former employer with stuff that’s too hard for anyone else. 🆒 [/QUOTE] Yes, I personally find looking at the clues to be a big help with crossword-solving. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/15 "2006-07-25T17:50:54Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] Nope – that’s “menarche.” [/QUOTE] Well, the feminine version, sure. wait a minute… ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/16 "2006-07-25T19:53:21Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] …can be “monarch” or “menorah.” [/QUOTE] I got “Menorah” but was assuming that only vowels were missing. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/17 "2006-07-25T20:28:01Z")
When I saw the subject I immediately thought “menorah,” even though I’m not Jewish _and_ I was born in a town known for monarch butterflies. The kingly “monarch” didn’t occur to me until just now. I’m slipping… ☹ 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/18 "2006-07-25T21:06:07Z")
Could it be Mr North? ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/19 "2006-07-25T21:23:13Z")
M R North M R Not ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965/20 "2006-07-25T21:25:33Z")
We haven’t tried Mr North’s wife or mother: Ma North. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m-__-n-__-r-__-h/365965.md?page=2)