# M1 Garand! M1 Garand! My uncle's giving me his M1 Garand!

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**Created:** [May 30, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202 "2008-05-30T22:15:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/41 "2008-05-31T20:59:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Antinor01]  
What is a garand?

ETA - just reread the OP and realized I missed the word rifle in the post.  
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And gerund.

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**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/42 "2008-05-31T23:16:28Z")

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I am not sure who is making them, but I have seen a display of rifles behind glass at my favorite sporting goods store that are newly manufactured and using an action that appears to be identical with the M1 Garand. They are chambered for .308, and look to have a synthetic stock.

There is also a US military model in the used rifles area that looks very well kept, selling for $1400.00

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/43 "2008-06-01T00:19:02Z")

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[QUOTE=DanBlather]  
And gerund.  
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Pardon?

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**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/44 "2008-06-01T03:04:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Spiny Norman]  
I have no use for a Garand, I don’t want to own a firearm in the first place, I don’t think I’m even allowed to - and yet, the idea of a Garand in the closet is not without its attraction.  
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I looked at your web page, and I could be mistaken, but if you are a Resident Alien I’m pretty certain you can own firearms.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/45 "2008-06-01T03:51:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
I was just at my uncle’s house - this particular uncle is like the prototypical short, skinny, scrappy, absolutely insane brawling Marine, self-described “cunt man” and champion drinker. You know the type - one of those guys. Anyway, over Martinis and a lot of off-color banter, he asks me if I liked the beautiful, mint-condition Korea-era M1 Garand rifle that he was showing me earlier. I told him I loved it.

He said, “It’s yours,”  
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Can I be your friend?

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/46 "2008-06-01T04:00:58Z")

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If you can open your mind and learn to play the fucking theremin.

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**Author:** ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/47 "2008-06-01T04:18:06Z")

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We have a Springfield M1 Garand. It’s a fine rifle in great condition. It was made in the 1950’s, loaned to the Greek Army, and then bought by us through the CMP.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/48 "2008-06-01T04:32:14Z")

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Does it still smell of roasted lamb and grape leaves?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/49 "2008-06-01T05:54:47Z")

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My dad had one. Story was, it hit the Beach at Okinawa. When he died, my older brother \* “stole” it.

He\* snuffed it last week, and I was hoping to catch a glimps of it again.

But I doubt it…

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/50 "2008-06-01T07:02:42Z")

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[QUOTE=longhair75]  
I am not sure who is making them, but I have seen a display of rifles behind glass at my favorite sporting goods store that are newly manufactured and using an action that appears to be identical with the M1 Garand. They are chambered for .308, and look to have a synthetic stock.  
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Springfield Armoury (the private company, not the US Government Arsenal) make a rifle is called the [M1A](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1A_rifle); it’s a .308 version of the M-14, which is itself based on the M-1 Garand.

I’m pretty sure someone else- Ruger?- are making an M1 Garand repro as well, but don’t quote me on that, as they’re not legal to own here in Australia so I don’t pay as much attention to which US manufacturer is making what as people expect. 😉

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/51 "2008-06-01T16:31:32Z")

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Springfield Armory is/was reproducing the M1 Garand also over the last couple years. They were using a cast receiver, just as they do with their M-14 clone. Like their flagship M1-A (M-14) their Garand was pricey. Too pricey, it seems. While the idea of owning a brand-spanking new Garand is appealing to a good many shooters, the idea of paying substantially more for a reproduction than a shooter grade original costs (especially if purchased through CMP) led to sluggish sales. You could buy an original Garand, with a properly forged and heat treated receiver, and take it to a smith for conversion to .308 and still have less in it than SA wanted for their clone. They can charge a stiff price for their M1A and get it because they are nearly the only game in town. There aren’t any real M-14’s to speak of in the civilian market due to their beng considered machineguns by ATFE. There’re a couple other outfits that assemble clones, but they cater to the match market and their products are even pricier than SA’s. So, if you have the itch to own an M-14, you really have only SA. A long as there are real Garands available pretty cheaply and easily, their clone is a non-starter.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/m1-garand-m1-garand-my-uncles-giving-me-his-m1-garand/451202/52 "2008-06-01T16:49:44Z")

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Oh, and Ruger doesn’t make a Garand clone. They make their Mini-14 models which are 5.56mm and 7.62 x 39mm carbines that share some mechanical and styling similarities with the M-14. Years back, they aborted the XGI, which would have been a 7.62 x51mm rifle very similar to the M-14. They had accuracy problems they couldn’t solve and the project was cancelled with only a tiny handful of shop-made guns in existance.

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