# Mac OS X Lion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-os-x-lion/589797>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 21, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-os-x-lion/589797 "2011-07-21T02:36:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Simmerdown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simmerdown/32/14859_2.png) [@Simmerdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simmerdown)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-os-x-lion/589797/41 "2011-07-25T02:43:55Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> Can you still do what I ALWAYS do to change apps: command-tab?

Yes, that still works, but only on already running apps, of course.

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-os-x-lion/589797/42 "2011-07-25T04:17:52Z")

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Some misc answers:

> [@Stoid](#):
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> I LOVED Eudora, overall. It had POWER. There was very little I could not accomplish with it, and why it was abandoned I will never understand.

My understanding was that it took an extremely large amount of development time, and almost nobody paid for it; they tried several different ways of making money with it, none of which worked, and finally gave up. This is also the answer to the oft-asked “Eudora was the greatest mail program ever, why hasn’t anyone cloned it?” question.

> [@tomcar](#):
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> Do any of you longtime Mac user have an idea when the imacs will ship with lion? Is there a precedent?

All Macs shipping today come with Lion, according to Apple. If it was boxed before Lion shipped, there should be a slip with it that has a free download code.

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [snip…] Unchecking the box causes Safari to not reopen on reboot, but once you do open Safari, it opens with all previous tabs and sites open.

This is causing great consternation on the Interwebs, and I doubt it will go very long without a better solution, but for now you can fix it by write-protecting the file the OS uses to save the state in. Instructions are [here](http://stu-bot.com/2011/07/21/lion-annoyance-5-stop-saving-application-states-on-an-app-by-app-basis/).

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-os-x-lion/589797/43 "2011-07-25T04:21:30Z")

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> [@Balthisar](#):
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> As for switching spaces in Mission Control, I’ve started to brainwash myself that there’s an invisible scrollbar that I’m moving in order to switch spaces.

You can also use the keys you’d use to switch desktops NOT in Mission Control to switch them in Mission Control. You set these in System Preferences-\>Keyboard-\>Keyboard Shortcuts-\>Mission Control rather than in the Mission Control preference pane, for reasons which I’m sure make perfect sense to someone who’s not me. (I use control left arrow and control right-arrow)

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