# Mac people irritate me **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2003, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011 "2003-09-26T17:26:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/61 "2003-09-27T21:09:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Who cares about games? Gamers? ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/62 "2003-09-27T21:21:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Never mind the ones like Myst that started Mac-only in the first place? I’d say that the best game to start mac-only was Bolo. Playing Myst is like waiting for molasses spontaneously combust. And I’m a big fan of puzzle and adventure games. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/63 "2003-09-27T21:30:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Leaper \* > \*\*See, this is something that’s always confused and bothered me about this point. > > Who cares about games? I mean, no, really? Why is it a requirement that every single OS support the same number of gee-whiz games, 95% of which are crap, and the remaining 5% are so popular that they get ported anyway, never mind the ones like Myst that started Mac-only in the first place? > > I’ve found exactly two game-related programs that made me wish, however slightly, that I had Virtual PC (see, not necessarily a PC, per se, but the emulator). Other than that, I couldn’t care less… \*\* I do. I stopped using Macs specifically because of the lack of good games. And there are still a hell of a lot of great PC games that will never make it to the Mac, because the 5% that get ported are not the best, they’re merely the most popular. Games like _Planescape: Torment_ don’t get cross-platform support. Games like _Deer Hunter_ do. But then, you already know this: you mentioned _Myst_ in your post, and if that’s not the best example of popularity in inverse proportion to quality, I don’t know what is. ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/64 "2003-09-27T21:45:00Z")
Yeah, Miller. Until you can play Torment, or Grim Fandango (perhaps the best example of games as art that ever existed) on a Mac, Macs get a thumbs-down for gaming as far as I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/65 "2003-09-27T23:39:23Z")
Macs, for the record, do crash. Li’l unhappy bomb, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/66 "2003-09-28T01:22:40Z")
I don’t have any problems with the Mac or even with Mac users; it’s the Mac advertising that gets on my nerves. In recent months, ads have typically been of two varieties (with the exception of the recent G5 ad showing the user being blown right out of his house by its power): [ul][li]Mac user offers testimonial about how difficult it was to set up a printer or some other device on a PC, but the Mac made it real easy, you betcha![/li][li]Jeff Goldblum talking about the appearance of a Wintel box.[/ul][/li] All-in-all, I get the impression Apple is trying to market to people who are techno-boobs, unable to cope with anything more complex than a toaster, and whose delicate hothouse-orchid sensitivities can only be soothed by the teddy-bear comfort of a big snuggly Mac with pretty colours on the box. There, there, snookums. Poppa’s gonna make everything awwww right. Don’t you worry your pretty little head. ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/67 "2003-09-28T01:40:13Z")
Yeah, I hate the advertising too. I like the aesthetics of some Macs, I will admit that. Some of them are goofy, though. The latest iMac? **It’s a lamp, dudes. A lamp. It’s not revolutionary, or cool. It’s a lamp!** And, yeah, Opal, there are some pretty sweet PCs, too. Some that are smaller than the latest iMac, and customizable. Really. Don’t believe me? It’s called a Shuttle. [Aww yeah, baby.](http://us.shuttle.com/) ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/68 "2003-09-28T02:35:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > I stopped using Macs specifically because of the lack of good games. And there are still a hell of a lot of great PC games that will never make it to the Mac, because the 5% that get ported are not the best, they’re merely the most popular. Games like _Planescape: Torment_ don’t get cross-platform support. The thing I’d like to figure out: why do some PC people try to tell me that the Mac is “inferior” because it doesn’t support something that I don’t give _one particle of a damn_ about? (Namely, games.) I always tell people who are seriously into games that the PC is more likely what they want, but why do PC people want to tout games to _me_ as if I care or am going to believe that the PC is “better” because of the games? More games does not equal “better” to me. So shut up about the damned games to me already. If all the computer games (except for Snood and Solitaire) were wiped off the planet, I would never even _notice._ ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/69 "2003-09-28T02:50:47Z")
Yosemite, I can understand your frustration. People pitch Linux at me for benefits that pertain to things I don’t do. However, Miller’s post didn’t say: “YOUMUSTBUYAPCBECAUSEMACSUCKSTOOMUCHFORTORMENT!!!11!!1!BLRBLRBLRLOL”. It said: > [@](#): > > **I** stopped using Macs specifically because of the lack of good games. And there are still a hell of a lot of great PC games that will never make it to the Mac, because the 5% that get ported are not the best, they’re merely the most popular. Games like Planescape: Torment don’t get cross-platform support. Emphasis mine, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/70 "2003-09-28T05:21:30Z")
Hi there, **Cnote**. How ya been? Been a while since I’ve heard from ya. As for the rest of your OP, all I know is that I like my Mac, I don’t want a PC, and I’m not obnoxious and evangelical about my platform of choice. So I don’t care what everyone else says or thinks. [sub]With luck that’ll keep me out of this thread from here on out and prevent me from being supremely annoyed by anything anyone posts.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/71 "2003-09-28T05:27:42Z")
Hi there, **Cnote**. How ya been? Been a while since I’ve heard from ya. As for the rest of your OP, all I know is that I like my Mac, I don’t want a PC, and I’m not obnoxious and evangelical about my platform of choice. So I don’t care what everyone else says or thinks. [sub]With luck that’ll keep me out of this thread from here on out and prevent me from being supremely annoyed by anything anyone posts.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/72 "2003-09-28T05:57:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yosemitebabe \* > \*\*The thing I’d like to figure out: why do some PC people try to tell me that the Mac is “inferior” because it doesn’t support something that I don’t give _one particle of a damn_ about? (Namely, games.) I always tell people who are seriously into games that the PC is more likely what they want, but why do PC people want to tout games to _me_ as if I care or am going to believe that the PC is “better” because of the games? More games does not equal “better” to me. > > So shut up about the damned games to me already. If all the computer games (except for Snood and Solitaire) were wiped off the planet, I would never even _notice._ \*\* My post was in direct response to **Leaper** ’s “Who cares about games” post. I truly, honestly don’t care what kind of computer you use. I love Macs myself. Heck, my first name is Mac. Unfortunetly, they just don’t deliver what I want from a computer: namely, a good gaming experience. Platform disputes are just about the stupidest thing I could possibly conceive of, and I find the partisans on both sides to be more than a little pathetic. You might as well get in bitter debates over the merits of Coke v. Pepsi. I am, however, a game snob. I don’t care what platform it started out on, _Myst_ was a piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/73 "2003-09-28T06:20:49Z")
I’ve used all three, and even with the MS probs, I prefer PCs. Linux has no interesting games. No interesting office programs either, dull, booooooooring. No wonder it has few probs, it has little to offer (it’s been about 3 years, maybe they’ve gotten more interesting lately). I’m not sure why macs bug me, they just do. For one thing, they’re NOT infallible, they still DO freeze up occasionally, and have other weird probs. Otherwise, AMEN to the OP, great and VERY pertinent rant. To the mac people coming into this thread and further trying to convert the “unsaved”. It’s idiotic and insulting. Even if a person WAS to decide “you know? maybe next time I’ll try mac”. So what? You think the average Joe that just spent a couple grand on a PC system is going to sell it for mere pennies on the dollar and rush and to buy and equally expensive mac? Idiots!!! The OPs POINT is that if you’re asking for advice, on anything for that matter, coming into a thread/discussion and saying “well, if you had X instead of Y, that wouldn’t happen” is get a lobotomy stupid and uselessly arrogant to boot. Now pull your stuck up little noses down out of the sky before you drown your silly selves in the next rain storm. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/74 "2003-09-28T06:29:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by techchick68 \* > \*\*I agree with your post Cnote! > > One cool thing about PCs is that you can build your own PC pretty damn cheap. \*\* AMEN!!! AND maintain/fix/repair it yourself. Personally, I have always found the whole DOS thing pretty fascinating. I think that the one thing I didn’t like about macs from the very start was that you can’t “get into their systems” yourself. I don’t know if that’s still true? But I enjoy the “talk to the computer/fix it yourself” aspect of PCs, even when it’s a bit of hassle. It’s sort of fun, like a puzzle/challenge. But then, I like working on cars too, the old type, where you can actually fit your hands in the engine compartment, and a carb can be rebuilt and isn’t controlled by a computer chip 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/75 "2003-09-28T06:41:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > \*\*To the mac people coming into this thread and further trying to convert the “unsaved”. It’s idiotic and insulting. Even if a person WAS to decide “you know? maybe next time I’ll try mac”. So what? > > You think the average Joe that just spent a couple grand on a PC system is going to sell it for mere pennies on the dollar and rush and to buy and equally expensive mac? > > Idiots!!! The OPs POINT is that if you’re asking for advice, on anything for that matter, coming into a thread/discussion and saying “well, if you had X instead of Y, that wouldn’t happen” is get a lobotomy stupid and uselessly arrogant to boot. > > Now pull your stuck up little noses down out of the sky before you drown your silly selves in the next rain storm. \*\* WHAT!!!? You wanna talk about ‘idiotic and insulting’, then I’d really like for you to point out ONE post in this thread of a Mac user demonstrating this behaviour. I’m pretty sure you can’t, because IT HASN’T HAPPENED HERE! Did you actually _read_ this thread, or is the ‘oh, all Mac users are snobs and only go around trying to convert pc users unlike angelic windows users who would NEVER say a bad thing about Macs’ so ingrained in your head that you assumed it _must_ have happened here!? Well, go back and read the damn thread. You know what you’ll find if you actually do? A number of Mac users _agreeing_ with the basic sentiment of the OP, that popping into threads just to belittle computer choices is idiotic and annoying. Maybe it’s time for you to follow your own advice. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/76 "2003-09-28T07:22:00Z")
Miller: No sweat, I wasn’t ranting at you about games. Enjoy your games, that’s fine. (Just as long as you don’t bug _me_ about them, we’re cool!) I just quoted a snippet of your post because it was about games, and I wanted to rant about games too! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/77 "2003-09-28T07:26:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > \*\*Linux has no interesting games. No interesting office programs either, dull, booooooooring. > > No wonder it has few probs, it has little to offer (it’s been about 3 years, maybe they’ve gotten more interesting lately). \*\* Linux does have Quake. And probably more, but I’m not a gamer, so I really don’t care. Anyway, things do happen quickly in the computer world in general. The Linux world probably has changed in three years on the gaming front. Finally, define an interesting office program. How on earth can an office program be interesting? ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/78 "2003-09-28T07:46:12Z")
I for one don’t have the need to tinker with linux (though I am contemplating turning my old windows box into a PVR with a linux program) and have used Mac from time to time, and really, REALLY like the Apple GUI, and the aesthetics of both the packaging and the products, are indeed superb, but until I can repair or upgrade an apple at Office Max, or hell, even Wal-Mart, in a pinch, I’m not gonna spend one thin fecking dime on the bloody things. It’s not that I dislike mac, I dont, it’s just that I have better things to do with my IT budget than piss it away on proprietary parts and services. As for the OP, I’ve never experienced anything but kind treatment (albeit condescending) from Mac folks. And for what it’s worth, they have a right to their superiority complex, mac is, mostly, a superior product, it’s a shame though, that it ISN’T the product that 95% of the computing world uses. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/79 "2003-09-28T09:10:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Anamorphic \* > \*\*WHAT!!!? You wanna talk about ‘idiotic and insulting’, then I’d really like for you to point out ONE post in this thread of a Mac user demonstrating this behaviour. I’m pretty sure you can’t, because IT HASN’T HAPPENED HERE! Did you actually _read_ this thread, or is the ‘oh, all Mac users are snobs and only go around trying to convert pc users unlike angelic windows users who would NEVER say a bad thing about Macs’ so ingrained in your head that you assumed it _must_ have happened here!? Well, go back and read the damn thread. You know what you’ll find if you actually do? A number of Mac users _agreeing_ with the basic sentiment of the OP, that popping into threads just to belittle computer choices is idiotic and annoying. Maybe it’s time for you to follow your own advice. \*\* Well here’s one of them, but I’m not sure how to go back to the first page to cut and paste the others within this same post. > [@](#): > > Oh bite me CnoteChris. > > You’re a fucking asshole to make a pit thread that it is > > 1. Petty > 2. Been done by at least 50 people before > 3. Just shows what a whiney PC humping little bitch you are > > Come back when you have something more interesting to compain about. There were a few other snide ones that were complaining about how 'there are many more PC’rs who come in and “troll” in mac threads than the other way around (and irrelevent complaints too as someone else pointed out, since we’re in the SDMB and NOT a “computer board”) . Since you’re NOT one of the ones being snooty or a jerk about it, I obviously was NOT talking to you or any of the folks not being snooty or jerky about it now was I? Perhaps you should re-read MY post, where it says “to the mac people coming into this thread etc”. It does NOT say “to all mac people in this thread”. Does it? Nope, just those few being brats. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2003, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/80 "2003-09-28T09:14:15Z")
Sorry for the second post, but I haven’t yet sat DOWN on my lazy ass and learned how to do the quote within a quote within a quote thing. Here’s a second snide, intended to be cleverly subtle and biting, comment from the first page. > [@](#): > > “My jagged rock doesn’t slay woolly mammoths as well as a bow and arrow - but you bow and arrow people better pipe down! I want to hear about jagged rocks!” > > Enjoy your jagged rock, sir. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011.md?page=5)