# Mac people irritate me **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2003, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011 "2003-09-26T17:26:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/141 "2003-10-03T01:41:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ellis Dee \* > **I notice that you listed none of my specialties in your “Macs do everything” list. I also program C, C++, and Pascal, but predominately on a hobbyist level. (Mostly to analyze craps strategies in C. And I can, but never would, use Pascal. I’ve never in my life even heard of professional development in Pascal. But I see it all the time in computer classes.)** Delphi is a RAD system based around Object Pascal (like a “Visual Pascal”, but with full source code for the libraries that actually make everything work behind the scenes, and it’s strong enough to develop the Delphi compiler and IDE in Delphi). It’s not as popular as C++ or even VB, I suppose, but it’s more robust than VB, compiles a hell of a lot faster than C++, and it has its niche. PowerArchiver and Macromedia HomeSite are written in Delphi. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2003, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/142 "2003-10-03T20:04:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ellis Dee \* > So you tell me…was what I said BS and/or “FUD”? Or am I just a penny-ante hack? At this point, I’m leaning towards “hack,” since from your own admission you need Microsoft tools to get your work done. Can’t imagine what would happen if you had to write code using nothing but emacs and gcc. (And let’s be honest, Visual Basic _is_ a set of Microsoft training wheels. 😉 ) > [@](#): > > I believe I said that **my** complaint was that **my** pool of potential employers would shrink. Sounds to me like that’s a signal to expand your skills, so you’re not hobbled by being tied to one proprietary platform. > [@](#): > > Several people have asked if I was kidding with the compatibility question. I assure you I have virtually no experience with Macs…it was a serious question. And one that would be asked only by someone who doesn’t know what “standards” means. Hint: It does _not_ mean “Whatever the majority of people are using.” > [@](#): > > Thanks for the info, oh condescending one. I do wonder how Mac users got that reputation? Because we have to put up with clueless folks like you all the time? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/143 "2003-10-05T09:20:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rjung \* > At this point, I’m leaning towards “hack,” since from your own admission you need Microsoft tools to get your work done. Can’t imagine what would happen if you had to write code using nothing but emacs and gcc. > > (And let’s be honest, Visual Basic _is_ a set of Microsoft training wheels. 😉 ) hehheh, ok, I admit, I’m a lazy bastard. > [@](#): > > Sounds to me like that’s a signal to expand your skills, so you’re not hobbled by being tied to one proprietary platform. That would be a good argument to not specialize in Macs only. To call a programmer limited to the Microsoft world “hobbled” is a bit of a stretch. > [@](#): > > And one that would be asked only by someone who doesn’t know what “standards” means. Hint: It does _not_ mean “Whatever the majority of people are using.” Whatever the actual meaning, in my world, it means “whatever the businesses you deal with are using.” At my last job, we had over 50 clients, all of whom were large lending institutions. (Much of Wall Street included.) None used Macs. > [@](#): > > Because we have to put up with clueless folks like you all the time? 😃 hehheh, thanks for the free pass. You could have easily torn into me. I bow to the cooler head. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/144 "2003-10-05T09:40:00Z")
> [@](#): > > And by the way, why don’t you mention “The PC has more games!” while you’re at it? Because while gaming is very important to ME (gosh, Y-babe, just think, someone uses their computer for something different than you do!), I recognize that not everyone sees it as much of a Mecca. I stand by my view of the computer world: PC’s are cheaper and get more bang for their buck. Even the new G5’s don’t whomp on P4’s or Athlons. The only thing Mac’s have left is stability, and that might eventually go the way of the dinosaur, as well… and then Apple will survive solely on the backs of the small percentage of Mac cultists. Ultimately, I see things turning out as [this article](http://www.lowendmac.com/lite/03/0128.html) describes. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/145 "2003-10-05T23:57:14Z")
I just want to state that if you’re not using your computer, be it PC or Mac, to play computer games, then you’re wasting that machine. Word processors, spread sheets, graphic programs, web design, space shuttle launches… sure, a computer is useful for these things, but if you didn’t buy your computer primarily for _Warcraft_ or _Battlefield: 1942_, then you might as well have just bought a slide-rule and spiral-bound notebook. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/146 "2003-10-06T06:07:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > I just want to state that if you’re not using your computer, be it PC or Mac, to play computer games, then you’re wasting that machine. Word processors, spread sheets, graphic programs, web design, space shuttle launches… sure, a computer is useful for these things, but if you didn’t buy your computer primarily for _Warcraft_ or _Battlefield: 1942_, then you might as well have just bought a slide-rule and spiral-bound notebook. ( **rjung** looks up from his fun-filled five-hour session of editing his assorted vacation camcorder footage into a trim, entertaining home movie for his friends and family to watch) Uh… yeah, sure. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nightime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Nightime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightime)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/147 "2003-10-06T07:40:38Z")
Some of my favorite computer games were for Mac - the Marathon series (from the makers of Halo) and the Escape Velocity series. I only use a PC now though. Not that there is anything wrong with Macs, but the advantages of using the more popular platform outweigh the negatives in my view. ---
**Author:** ![Thumperdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Thumperdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumperdude)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/148 "2003-10-06T18:46:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Anamorphic \* > \*\*WHAT!!!? You wanna talk about ‘idiotic and insulting’, then I’d really like for you to point out ONE post in this thread of a Mac user demonstrating this behaviour. I’m pretty sure you can’t, because IT HASN’T HAPPENED HERE! \*\* How about this one: \*RTA Member Registered: Apr 1999 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 1228 “My jagged rock doesn’t slay woolly mammoths as well as a bow and arrow - but you bow and arrow people better pipe down! I want to hear about jagged rocks!” Enjoy your jagged rock, sir.\* Did YOU actually read the thread before posting…? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/149 "2003-10-06T20:05:02Z")
I smell burning irony. ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/150 "2003-10-06T20:44:32Z")
> [@](#): > > I smell burning irony. Fuck, that’s my omelette! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/151 "2003-10-06T20:55:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rjung \* > \*\*( **rjung** looks up from his fun-filled five-hour session of editing his assorted vacation camcorder footage into a trim, entertaining home movie for his friends and family to watch) > > Uh… yeah, sure. > > 😉 \*\* You’re going to make friends watch videos of your family vacation? Dude, I rest my case. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/152 "2003-10-06T21:15:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > \*\*I just want to state that if you’re not using your computer, be it PC or Mac, to play computer games, then you’re wasting that machine. Word processors, spread sheets, graphic programs, web design, space shuttle launches… sure, a computer is useful for these things, but if you didn’t buy your computer primarily for _Warcraft_ or _Battlefield: 1942_, then you might as well have just bought a slide-rule and spiral-bound notebook. \*\* Correct me if I’m wrong, but it strikes me as difficult to send e-mail with a slide-rule… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011/153 "2003-10-06T21:50:22Z")
Pardon my hijack… But I just put up a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=215765) in GQ regarding OSX… if any of my irritating Mac compatriots are feeling helpful… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-people-irritate-me/204011.md?page=7)