Mac users - why do you like so few choices?

I think in years past one could make the argument that the Apple was a much superior product to the PC. Now However I don’t really think one can make that argument. PC’s are great machines and the latest Windows is very stable, I haven’t had it crash once in the last year or so I have been using it. Graphics, always a strong point of the Macs can be done just as well on the PC, although the majority of graphic design work is still done on the Macs.

In my opinion, the MAJORITY (notice I didn’t say every single Apple user) of people that purchase Apple that are consumer users do so because of the image. They want people to think of them as edgy and it lets them belong to a “club” of sorts.

When my sister recently purchased her Mac laptop I thought she was a moron. She doesn’t have a pot to piss in (although she is certainly trying, job market is tough so she is working at a $10 an hour job). I tried to convince her that a comparable PC laptop could be purchased for about $1200 less, but it fell on deaf ears. She just HAD to have a Mac, but she couldn’t give any good reasons.

Yeah, she went on about how Macs were better at graphics. So what, she doesn’t do anything with graphics.

She then said how much better the OS was. Well, Windows 7 is a fine operating system, perhaps in some people’s opinion not as good as the Apple OS, but certainly good enough for her internet browsing and emailing.

Then she went on about how PC’s are more prone to virus’s. So what, for less than $80 I can get a world class anti-virus software and I am smart enough not to do things that increase the chance of getting one. When I first started using a computer on the internet I got some viruses. I can’t recall getting one on my machine in the last 6 years or so. Seems like a flimsy excuse to spend and extra thousand dollars or so.

And then the Granddaddy arguments of them all. “Macs NEVER crash”. Funny, tell that to my friend Mike who is a proffesional graphic artist. Hate to tell you, Macs crash all the time. Especially if you are doing very very memory intensive tasks. It happens, no big deal. But don’t try to tell me that Macs are perfect machines that never do anything wrong. It is still a machine.

When all was said and done she bought the Mac because she wanted that little Apple logo on the case. She wanted to be in the “in” crowd. Her choice, that is okay. However, don’t complain about being broke, you would have had an extra $1200 if you had bought a PC.

So, because your sister did something, that extrapolates somehow to the entire computer market?

My MacBook Pro cost less than $1200 all by itself. If I got a comparable Windows machine for $1200 less, that would result in me actually being paid money to take it.

I get the argument about Macs being well made, durable, long lasting, etc… but you are SO limited in the software you can run. I can’t even count how many random programs I like to find online, download, and play with, and almost none have a mac version. People who have a mac as a reliable computer for most of their everyday use, I totally get that. But people who have ONLY a mac, with no windows installation, I just find baffling. You are missing out on nearly every piece of software developed in the last 30 years. I know that there are options for running some windows programs on a mac, but compatibility is spotty at best from what I’ve seen and heard.

Compatibility is excellent. Again, I’m running Windows right now in a virtual machine in another window on this Mac laptop. No crashy crashy. Windows 7 runs on this computer just as nicely as Windows XP ran on my old Dell laptop. Actually, since my MacBook doesn’t shut down constantly due to overheating, I’d have to say that Windows runs even better on my Mac.

As for software, what? The only thing I’ve run into so far that doesn’t have a Mac native version that I personally want to run is the specialized indexing software I use for my job. So I run it in Windows instead. No big deal.

Please name ONE.

Well I’m a big PC gamer, and there is probably a long list of games that don’t have mac versions. I don’t know if there are a lot of workarounds for this, like emulation, or whatever. I know that newer macs allow you to install windows on them, so obviously that’s good. I was thinking more of people who only use MacOS X and do not have a dual boot. Not sure how well most PC games will run in a virtual machine, but in my experience compatibility is pretty poor. Again, my info might be out of date… but all the gamers I’ve met seem to agree that gaming on a mac is pretty limited.

Yeah games. Big deal.
If I wanted to play games, I’d have bought a toy.

Android ADB is also poorly supported for Macs, and I do a lot of stuff with that to interface with my phone and nook color.

There are a number of PC games that are not available on the consoles, and usually the PC versions are superior to the consoles. Like I said, you really get to the point that I already made though… that having a mac for productivity, internet, etc is great, but why limit yourself to just that? There’s all sorts of developmental, programming, gaming tools that you just can’t run very well on a mac, if at all. At least have a dual boot for windows so you can do all that stuff if you want.

There’s a ton of development environments on the Mac, and of course, if you want to develop for the iPhone, you need to use Xcode on OS X. If there was something that I simple HAD to do that wasn’t supported on OS X, I could aways run it under Parallels, but the reality is that isn’t an issue.

This is true, but I’ve found that I can always find software to do the things I want to do. And on average the available Mac options are pretty good.

And there is software that’s only made for Macs. Omnigroup’s awesome productivity software comes immediately to mind. Obviously, the balance goes the other way, but the Mac does not support a strict subset of Windows software. As several other people have pointed out, since you can run Windows on a Mac, it has a superset.

Yeah, that’s pretty much the point of owning a Mac for someone like me; I could have the stability/security of OS X when I would need it, and then any compatability issues could be solved by having a windows installation. I’m all for consumer choice and all that, and have no problem with people buying macs. But for someone who likes to play high-end graphics games, it’s just not a practical choice for me, and many others like me. I want a machine that can be productive and play the games I want to play, and I can get a great gaming PC for a lot less than the upper level macs

I know this may come as a surprise to you, but some people don’t give a shit about computer games, OR programming! :eek:

In 1995, you probably had a larger variety of Apple Macintosh computers to choose from than today. PowerPC or 68040? If 68040, with a math coprocessor? CD model or not? Standing tower or horizontal tower? Performa or Quadra? One thing people seem to say is that Apple’s resurgence has a lot to do with streamlining its complicated product line from that period.

Why does anyone want Windows or Mac OS? I can find millions of programs in the Apple App Store, and almost none of them have a Windows or Mac version.

Final Cut Pro, one of the major players in video and film editing is Apple software, and only available on Mac OSX.

Which would make sense as an argument if the statement you responded to was claiming that everyone did.

I have an ancient compaq that runs just fine [slowly, and on windows 95, but with the programs I have for that vintage critter, it runs just fine.] I also have a similar vintage thinkpad, running windows 95. I am looking at my 3 year old desktop, that has no problem with vista, and am currently on my 2 year old laptop that I can run 2 instances of EVE Online at the same time on. Both laptop and desktop are the evil evil HP products. [and both running vista, and I play MMORPGs constantly on them.]

Oh, and both my amigas still run just fine, a 1000 and a 500.

Beats the hell out of Civ 5 :frowning:

Yeah, no cigar on that Big T. A G4, and a MacPro. And personally, I don’t find longevity laughable. I find it cost effective.

No
Most people will buy the platform they already have programs that they use constantly on.

Back in the day, I opted to stay with PC mainly because you couldn’t play the MMORPG that I was heavily invested in on mac, all my programming that I owned was for PC. I did not want to give up my MMORPG, or repurchase probably 50 other assorted programs, and fucking around with emulators is absurd when I can simply replace my PC innards with upgrades ad lib, and about every 5 years or so replace the PC with a new one once I hit the upgrade limit.