# Mac website rendering tool? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 4, 2005, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-website-rendering-tool/324753 "2005-10-04T17:08:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-website-rendering-tool/324753/1 "2005-10-04T17:08:50Z")
I remember running across a site which would render your site as it is seen on a Mac browser and email you a screencapture to allow you to check that it shows up properly. Can anyone point me towards this service? I simply can’t find it in google or any of my other usual link finding tools. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-website-rendering-tool/324753/2 "2005-10-04T18:16:11Z")
I don’t know of any tools like this, but just keep this in mind: if you adhere to the HTML and CSS standards, your Web pages will appear correctly in all current Mac browsers. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-website-rendering-tool/324753/3 "2005-10-04T18:17:31Z")
But I’ll add this: if you try to embed Windows Media files in a Web page (as opposed to providing a download link), you’re going to give Mac users trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-website-rendering-tool/324753/4 "2005-10-04T18:18:13Z")
I found the site I was looking for, [http://browsershots.org/](http://browsershots.org/) but the queue is over 24 hours for the site so it isn’t taking any new render requests. And I know it should be that way in theory, but I make mistakes and it is easiest to find problems via visual inspection. ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-website-rendering-tool/324753/5 "2005-10-04T19:56:58Z")
> [@Phase42](#): > > I don’t know of any tools like this, but just keep this in mind: if you adhere to the HTML and CSS standards, your Web pages will appear correctly in all current Mac browsers. …except Internet Explorer (Mac or Windows) neither of which fully supports CSS. I hate to say it, but developing to standards still isn’t good enough, 90+% of your users will be using noncompliant browsers. Hopefully by NEXT decade the browser developers will have fixed this problem…who’d have imagined it would take so long? ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-website-rendering-tool/324753/6 "2005-10-04T23:17:40Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > …except Internet Explorer (Mac or Windows) neither of which fully supports CSS. What he said. I usually end up designing sites that looks nice on a standards-compliant browser, and “tolerable” on the steaming pile of pus known as Internet Explorer. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-website-rendering-tool/324753/7 "2005-10-05T02:51:02Z")
Generally speaking, if it looks decent in Windows Opera and Firefox, it will also look decent in Safari, Mac Firefox, and Opera, although the font size may be a bit smaller. We appreciate your interest in checking out how your site looks to Mac folks, though 🙂 Beats hell out of the “Just make it work for Internet Explorer for Windows, that’s what everyone uses, isn’t it?” attitude! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mac-website-rendering-tool/324753/8 "2005-10-05T05:58:47Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > …except Internet Explorer (Mac or Windows) neither of which fully supports CSS. _heh_ That’s why I said _current_ Mac browsers. IE/Mac hasn’t been updated in years. For a long time, IE was the _most_ compliant browser for the Mac, but Mozilla and the others have leapfrogged over it and left it in the dust.