# MacOS Update: iTunes gone: Where are my Home Movies, TV Shows, Films, Audiobooks? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 18, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704 "2020-07-18T22:46:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/1 "2020-07-18T22:46:01Z")
So the latest update to MacOS zapped iTunes and replaced it with the new Music app, which essentially seems to be iTunes with everything removed except music. So what happened to all my other media? My home movies, my TV shows, my movies, my audiobooks? Where did they go? How do I access them? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/2 "2020-07-18T22:53:12Z")
Check in your Launch Pad; you should find an Apple TV app and a Podcasts app. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/3 "2020-07-18T22:55:53Z")
And your audiobooks are in the new Books app. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/4 "2020-07-18T23:00:17Z")
Ah. Oh. Okay. Thanks! I kind of liked having everything in one place ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/5 "2020-07-18T23:06:22Z")
Yer not alone; I also find it annoying that there are multiple apps to use audio/video files. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/6 "2020-07-18T23:11:31Z")
I’ve been holding off on the update. How is synchronization of music & audiobooks to other devices handled in the new OS? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/7 "2020-07-18T23:13:59Z")
iOS removed iTunes last year, IIRC, so anything on your iPhone or iPad would already have been sent to the right app. AFAIK you have to use the right app to sync stuff now, tho. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/8 "2020-07-18T23:17:28Z")
All iOS syncing on Mac is now done via the Finder. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/9 "2020-07-18T23:18:31Z")
So you connect your phone, and … ? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/10 "2020-07-18T23:18:52Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > AFAIK you have to use the right app to sync stuff now, tho. In Mojave, if I plug in my phone or iPod, everything is synchronized via iTunes. How does that work in the new OS? Surely I’m not synchronizing multiple times for different media? Edit: I see Nonsuch answered the question, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/11 "2020-07-18T23:19:20Z")
Right on; thanks for the clarification, **Nonsuch**. I really only have music on my iPhone and iPad, and I’m still using iTunes on my 2008 Mac Pro (which runs OS X 10.11.16), so I have no experience with current syncing. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/12 "2020-07-18T23:25:59Z")
Your iDevice now appears in the Finder sidebar like any other mounted volume. The sync interface looks like it did in iTunes, now with tabs for music, audiobooks, movies, photos etc., with sync parameters configurable for each media type. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/13 "2020-07-19T03:13:46Z")
Oh, so you DO get to see all your stuff together? Even if it’s in the Finder, that’s better than always fractured into different apps. That’s what’s kept me from upgrading (for quite a while)… I really like iTunes. I’ve got playlists with music and spoken word/audiobooks together, and I love backing up and sync’ing exactly what I want. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/14 "2020-07-19T06:03:24Z")
Playlists with music and audiobooks together might not work in the new app paradigm, unless you converted your audiobooks to mp3 (or similar) and imported them into Music as music tracks. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/15 "2020-07-19T14:39:06Z")
Thanks, that gives me hope. Though I’m still running High Sierra and iTunes 12.8, thinking I’ll update when I really have to. Everything’s running swimmingly for now… By the way, I’m not mad at Apple, I read it was the EU that wanted iTunes broken up (not clear why, monopoly fears, maybe). ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/16 "2020-07-19T15:04:07Z")
Also still running High Sierra, and I have a different sort of question: Can I update to latest version and still stay out of the Cloud? I sometimes get knocked offline altogether for some time and want both documents and apps to remain in my own storage and to be functional offline. Also, will I still have TextEdit? I like TextEdit. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/17 "2020-07-19T23:44:37Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > Your iDevice now appears in the Finder sidebar Finder sidebar? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/18 "2020-07-20T00:16:52Z")
The Finder is the window where you look at your files. It is usually the left-most icon on your dock bar (the two-tone blue face). ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/19 "2020-07-20T00:30:09Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Can I update to latest version and still stay out of the Cloud? I sometimes get knocked offline altogether for some time and want both documents and apps to remain in my own storage and to be functional offline. I think you misunderstand how iCloud works. Assuming that you have enough disk space for all your files, all iCloud does is store a mirror copy of all your files. All your files are still kept on your local machine, you work on them locally exactly as you do now whether online or offline. They just synchronize to iCloud when you are online. It **can** store some files in the cloud only, but that’s only if you run out of disk space. The synchronization works perfectly in my experience, and it brings in extremely useful functionality. I have two identical laptops, and I can work on either one, with all the files synchronizing seamlessly. And if I don’t have my laptop with me, I can download any file that’s on my laptop onto my phone. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704/20 "2020-07-20T00:50:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > The Finder is the window where you look at your files. It is usually the left-most icon on your dock bar (the two-tone blue face). I know what the Finder is. I don’t know what the “finder sidebar” is [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/macos-update-itunes-gone-where-are-my-home-movies-tv-shows-films-audiobooks/915704.md?page=2)