# Mad-Men 3.03, My Old Kentucky Home (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304 "2009-08-31T01:03:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/1 "2009-08-31T01:03:58Z")

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[QUOTE=AMC]  
A mandatory overtime session leaves the writers trying to stave off late-night boredom; Roger throws a party, and Joan and Greg host one of their own; and Sally and Grandpa have a run-in.  
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So get a peak into Dr & Mrs Rape’s homelife. In the AMC’s [sneak peak](http://www.amctv.com/videos/mad-men/?bcpid=8803972001&bclid=27344898001&bctid=33670252001) Joan and Jane have a little run in. Love Jane’s comment about her rings ;). Is Grandpa McCain actually molest Sally? He mistook Betty for his late wife last season, but Sally’s a small child not an adult like Betty. Then again he could briefly regress to his boyhood and decide to play doctor.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/2 "2009-08-31T03:20:42Z")

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The highlight for me was Joan’s eyes when her husband forced her to bring out the accordion. I hope she finds a way to hurt the bastard before she dumps his ass.

Love Peggy’s secretary.

So, is Roger happy with Jane? He doesn’t seem to like being out of favor with Don, not just professionally but personally. He values Don’s opinion.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/3 "2009-08-31T03:28:22Z")

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I think Roger is just upset about the cold shoulder he’s been getting due to his marriage to Jane, and doesn’t like being seen as a foolish old man infatuated with a young woman.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/4 "2009-08-31T04:22:15Z")

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I wasn’t paying close enough attention to the last couple of minutes… who did Mrs. Draper end up kissing at the end?

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/5 "2009-08-31T04:37:37Z")

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> [@The\_Scrivener](#):
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> I wasn’t paying close enough attention to the last couple of minutes… who did Mrs. Draper end up kissing at the end?

Don! Wasn’t he carrying out her coat as he was leaving?

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/6 "2009-08-31T05:12:37Z")

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I lol’d at the drug “pusher” coming all that way to deliver a few joints. But I guess they were friends, and times were different.

I was sure they were going to “invent” the Cuba Libre as an ad pitch - even though it had already been in existence in actuality - much like Don invented Lucky Strikes “It’s toasted” slogan.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/7 "2009-08-31T05:48:59Z")

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“My name is Peggy Olsen, and I would like to smoke some marijuana, please.”

Peggy is awesome.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/8 "2009-08-31T05:50:30Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> I lol’d at the drug “pusher” coming all that way to deliver a few joints. But I guess they were friends, and times were different.
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> I was sure they were going to “invent” the Cuba Libre as an ad pitch - even though it had already been in existence in actuality - much like Don invented Lucky Strikes “It’s toasted” slogan.

Do they have to get permission from the real ad agencies or creators who originally made these ads to claim that these ads were generated by Don’s ad agency, or not?

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/9 "2009-08-31T05:52:18Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Do they have to get permission from the real ad agencies or creators who originally made these ads to claim that these ads were generated by Don’s ad agency, or not?

At least some of them are actual product placement deals.

But, in general, one does not need permission to use a real product or brand or logo in a fictional story.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/10 "2009-08-31T11:51:45Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> The highlight for me was Joan’s eyes when her husband forced her to bring out the accordion.

Though I wish they’d let her finish. They gave the blackface scene more time.

I wonder what the significance was of all the musical performances by the characters.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/11 "2009-08-31T12:29:13Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> They gave the blackface scene more time.

I thought it was interesting that, while almost everyone seemed amused by Sterling in blackface, both Pete and Don looked uncomfortable with it.

Campbell and Cosgrove have apparently set aside their differences in the name of lording themselves over Creative 😃

Betty seemed upset/annoyed that Jane knew about their separation but what did she expect? She’d kick Don out of the house for something like a month and no one would ever find out about it?

I was expecting Grandpa McCain to administer some old school discipline on the bratty (and stealing) daughter, leading up to another conflict but… nope.

I wasn’t all that in love with the pot scenes. Peggy was all right and at least they didn’t play it up like some teen comedy but most of it felt like wasted time to me. Was fun to see Kinsey get all upset about people knowing he’s from New Jersey though.

I, for one, _liked_ Joan’s song. 🙂

But I can see where the accordian doesn’t fit into her feminine mystique.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/12 "2009-08-31T13:04:01Z")

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Dr Rape intended to embarass Joan when he busted out the accordion, but she owned it. I think we got a pretty good idea of who rules their roost most of the time.

Pete & Trudy’s dance was great. I loved the look on his face - he loved the attention.

The guy hitting on Betty was interesting. Does he have a pregnancy fetish or something?

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/13 "2009-08-31T13:10:41Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> I was sure they were going to “invent” the Cuba Libre as an ad pitch - even though it had already been in existence in actuality - much like Don invented Lucky Strikes “It’s toasted” slogan.

I was expecting that too; for them to promote a new mixed drink to drive rum sales.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/14 "2009-08-31T13:11:50Z")

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> [@SaharaTea](#):
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> Pete & Trudy’s dance was great. I loved the look on his face - he loved the attention.

I told the wife, “Check it out. Pete and Trudy must do something in their couple time besides fight and not have children.”

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/15 "2009-08-31T13:11:55Z")

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> [@SaharaTea](#):
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> Dr Rape intended to embarass Joan when he busted out the accordion, but she owned it. I think we got a pretty good idea of who rules their roost most of the time.

Oh yeah. I loved it when he said (paraphrasing) “I don’t like to argue” and she responded with “Then stop talking”. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/16 "2009-08-31T13:13:24Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I wonder what the significance was of all the musical performances by the characters.

And a dance number. Forgot about that.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/17 "2009-08-31T13:16:14Z")

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What book was Sally reading to her grandfather?

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/18 "2009-08-31T13:57:10Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> What book was Sally reading to her grandfather?

The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/19 "2009-08-31T14:22:35Z")

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Everyone brought out their hidden talents last night. Even Sally, who reads aloud really well from a book that’s way too advanced for her.

Joan was adorable. I’m glad she didn’t let Greg get the best of her. I take it that Greg screwed up an operation and didn’t tell Joan about it. Maybe he won’t get the chief resident job, after all.

Roger’s minstrel show routine had me groaning out loud. Pete and Trudy were a little pathetic with their dance number.

Carla guessed that Sally stole Gene’s $5, but she won’t say anything. Good for Carla. Also, she stood up to Gene when he made borderline racist remarks.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-03-my-old-kentucky-home-open-spoilers/508304/20 "2009-08-31T14:39:49Z")

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> [@h.sapiens](#):
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> I take it that Greg screwed up an operation and didn’t tell Joan about it. Maybe he won’t get the chief resident job, after all.

When the women were talking in the kitchen, it sounded (from the guest wives) like a question of “If” Dr. Rape gets the position, not “When”.

I suppose _some_ drama has to come into Joan’s life or else her husband would become Chief Resident, she’d leave Sterling Cooper and she’d pretty much leave the show.

Oh! And no Brits this episode. That made it worth it right there.

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