# Mad-Men 3.05, The Fog (open spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-05-the-fog-open-spoilers/509988>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 14, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-05-the-fog-open-spoilers/509988 "2009-09-14T01:40:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-05-the-fog-open-spoilers/509988/101 "2009-09-19T01:51:19Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Well, when Campbell first proposed placing ads in black media (Jet, Ebony, etc), the immediate response from Admiral was a skeptical “You’re trying to double the number of ads we pay you for?”
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> Maybe Don could have sold that better.

Pete did try to explain that adspace was much cheaper in these publications, but he didn’t do it very well. And it was the intergrated ad that sent them over the edge. Don would’ve handled it better.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-05-the-fog-open-spoilers/509988/102 "2009-09-20T01:00:08Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> …I noticed Betty writing left-handed too. I remember my mother having to tell the teachers to back off my sister, because she was left-handed, and this was back in the early-mid 70s and they were not to try to switch her…I didn’t know they knocked mothers completely out during labor. I’d heard of shaving and the enema (ick) but when I had both my kids I had neither of those…

My father is 61 and he’s left handed. His teachers did try to correct him (rulers weren’t just a Catholic thing), but it didn’t take.

I gather the enema thing was to stop women from shitting during delivery (something I learnt about from the Dope), but what was the purpose of pubic shaving? 😕 Was it in case surgery was needed? Also shouldn’t Betty have been flat on her back (easiest for the doctor, hardest on mom)? It looked like she was sitting up.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-05-the-fog-open-spoilers/509988/103 "2009-09-20T01:24:14Z")

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Episiotomies were more common then. Shaving probably made sterilizing the area easier, and more effective. ??

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**Author:** ![BaneSidhe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BaneSidhe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BaneSidhe)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-05-the-fog-open-spoilers/509988/104 "2009-09-20T04:24:48Z")

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I remember my mom telling me that the doctors knocked her out just enough where she was barely aware of what was going on, and according to her, didn’t even know I’d been born. She was hanging onto my foot and kept telling the docs “I haven’t had the baby yet! What are you talking about??”

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-05-the-fog-open-spoilers/509988/105 "2009-09-23T02:45:28Z")

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> [@niblet\_head](#):
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> I noticed Betty is left-handed. My mother, who was born around the same time, had the left-handedness… uh… re-directed by the nuns in elementary school. My impression was that most kids of that era would not be allowed to be left-handed. Am I wrong?

I was born in 1958. Nobody ever tried to force me to become right-handed.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-05-the-fog-open-spoilers/509988/106 "2009-09-23T03:55:31Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> I was born in 1958. Nobody ever tried to force me to become right-handed.

My lefty dad was born in 54 and learned how to throw a football right handed, but does everything else lefty - including throwing that football.

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