# Mad-Men 3.07, Seven Twenty Three (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 28, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812 "2009-09-28T02:01:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/81 "2009-10-01T13:16:21Z")
Re: The episode title. Okay, so Don signed the contract on 7/23. Is this episode title supposed to _mean_ more than that? Is this supposed to be a turning point for Don? Is he supposed to be a different guy from now on? Am I thinking too much about this? ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/82 "2009-10-01T13:42:33Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Re: The episode title. > > Okay, so Don signed the contract on 7/23. Is this episode title supposed to _mean_ more than that? Is this supposed to be a turning point for Don? Is he supposed to be a different guy from now on? Am I thinking too much about this? No, you are thinking about MM as much as a good fan ought to be! and I wonder about it myself. That monstrous big pink velvet ‘fainting couch’ Betty bought :eek: - WTF does THAT mean? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/83 "2009-10-01T13:47:26Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Re: The episode title… Wasn’t 723 also the number of Duck’s hotel room? BTW did the actor who plays Duck also play George Deveraux’s long lost bastard son on an epsisode of the **Golden Girls**? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/84 "2009-10-01T13:59:13Z")
> [@niblet\_head](#): > > I didn’t say she was innocent. I said she was _unsophisticated_. Just because she recognizes she likes to fuck and can fuck does not mean that she is savy in her choices of who to fuck ( **and wise enough to go home to a forceful tub faucet when choice of partner is dangerous** - like Duck). She’ll gain sophistication, surely, to match her libido. But at this point in her fucking career, she’s experimenting, testing, assessing outcomes and her power. I don’t believe she’s experienced enough to deal with any potential negative fall-out from her Duck fucking (Ducking?), nor intimidating enough (ie Joan or even Don’s more self-assured daliances) to make sure Duck keeps his mouth shut (if he even had plans to). (bolding mine)- I doubt it. When she took home the “Slenderizer” or whatever it was called, once she realized it was actually stimulating her privates she practically threw it across the room in horror. I don’t think the thought of using a tub faucet, brush handle or first two fingers would ever cross her mind. Which is probably why she acts on her sexual urges so frequently- a girl’s gotta have it. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/85 "2009-10-01T14:11:35Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > (bolding mine)- I doubt it. When she took home the “Slenderizer” or whatever it was called, once she realized it was actually stimulating her privates she practically threw it across the room in horror. . Remember though, she reached back under the bed for for it in the next episode. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/86 "2009-10-01T16:11:49Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Remember though, she reached back under the bed for for it in the next episode. That was probally the first time in her life it occured to her that she could feel “the pleasure of a man’s company” without a man involved. If Weiner really wants to throw us for a loop let Peggy discover lesbianism. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/87 "2009-10-01T16:18:21Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Wasn’t 723 also the number of Duck’s hotel room? > > BTW did the actor who plays Duck also play George Deveraux’s long lost bastard son on an epsisode of the **Golden Girls**? 😕 No, it was room 430. He stressed that to Peggy when she said she was returning the scarf. I don’t know if he was on Golden Girls, but he played Rex on \*Desperate Housewives \*(the husband of Mary Alice, who killed herself in the premier.) ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/88 "2009-10-01T16:34:07Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Remember though, she reached back under the bed for for it in the next episode. Hm. I may have missed that one. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/89 "2009-10-01T16:41:55Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > No, you are thinking about MM as much as a good fan ought to be! and I wonder about it myself. > > That monstrous big pink velvet ‘fainting couch’ Betty bought :eek: - WTF does THAT mean? Well, the explanation was that women used to be so constricted by wearing corsets that they would occasionally need to lie down. In Betty’s case, her whole life is constricting her. That’s my guess. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/90 "2009-10-01T20:10:56Z")
Regarding the fainting couch, earlier the designer had called the hearth the soul of the home and told her not to put anything in that spot, instead Betty plops this big honking symbol of her needs, delusions, and neurosis right in the middle of the “soul” of the home. I’m a little unhappy with the trend of making Betty too unsympathetic this season, and Don takes a little interest in his daughter and he’s father of the year. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/91 "2009-10-01T20:23:47Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Regarding the fainting couch, earlier the designer had called the hearth the soul of the home and told her not to put anything in that spot, instead Betty plops this big honking symbol of her needs, delusions, and neurosis right in the middle of the “soul” of the home. I’m a little unhappy with the trend of making Betty too unsympathetic this season, and Don takes a little interest in his daughter and he’s father of the year. Sometimes an ugly couch is just an ugly couch. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/92 "2009-10-02T01:16:31Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Sometimes an ugly couch is just an ugly couch. And sometimes it’s the big ugly couch the cute guy who laid hands on her pregnant belly offhandedly commented that she should have. Then she places it right in the middle of the living room she’s paid a bunch of money to redecorate in trendy midcentury modern. The living room she thinks she wanted, but that somehow doesn’t seem to have what she needs in it, kind of like her life. Until she parks the big, comfy, totally does not fit in any way “fuck you” couch smack in the middle of her perfect life like a pile of shit on a white tile floor. Something you just can’t really ignore or gloss over or pretend isn’t there. Kinda like the guy she’s most likely going to spectacularly fuck in some totally public way pretty quick. ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/93 "2009-10-02T03:47:48Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > That was probally the first time in her life it occured to her that she could feel “the pleasure of a man’s company” without a man involved. If Weiner really wants to throw us for a loop let Peggy discover lesbianism. At this point, it would _have_ to be a vast improvement. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/94 "2009-10-03T02:38:07Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Sometimes an ugly couch is just an ugly couch. Yeah, but not when some character makes a big speech about the imporance of the space where the couch ends up. Then the ugly couch is actually some pretty ham-handed symbolism. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/95 "2009-10-04T21:34:33Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > No, the morning after the hitchhikers, Don mumbled his “car accident” excuse to Peggy who was busy trying to hide her Walk of Shame wearing the same clothes she’d had on the day before… Remember that first season episode where Peggy rips her dress at the office and Joan lend’s her one of her own. How did I not realize until now why Joan was keeping a change of clothes at work! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812/96 "2009-10-05T00:08:44Z")
In the first season we also find out Don keeps some fresh shirts in his desk for the same reason. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-3-07-seven-twenty-three-open-spoilers/511812.md?page=4)