# Mad-Men: 4.04 "The Rejected" (open spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-4-04-the-rejected-open-spoilers/550376>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 16, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-4-04-the-rejected-open-spoilers/550376 "2010-08-16T01:45:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-4-04-the-rejected-open-spoilers/550376/101 "2010-08-18T16:07:17Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Which is probably why Allison was so distraught over the thing with Don – she had assumed that Peggy had slept with Don and been showered with rewards such as a good job and Don’s support and patronage. All Allison got was $100 and some really awkward conversations.

Alison also saw Roger leave his wife and MARRY Don’s last secretary, so the expectation that the encounter could result in more was not all that unreasonable, IMO, especially since Don’s already divorced.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-4-04-the-rejected-open-spoilers/550376/102 "2010-08-18T16:43:39Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> > [@Jophiel](#):
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> > My wife said Harry’s spending too much time in California.
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> I think at some point Harry is going to relocate to the left-coast. He’s really embracing the television side of things and at some point SCDP will either open an LA office or Harry will get a job out there w/ another firm.

I’m pretty sure that the television commercial business stayed in NYC throughout the 60s. It really wasn’t until much later that a big commercial industry built up in LA.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-4-04-the-rejected-open-spoilers/550376/103 "2010-08-18T16:50:34Z")

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> [@TheTerribleTako](#):
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> Pete did get smacked down by Don in season one for suggesting a creative idea to a client

Pete took some research out of Don’s trash and tried to present the ideas to Lucky Strikes (“Tell people the danger of smoking is what makes it great!”). Besides the idiotic idea – no wonder Don hates the research shrinks – Pete had obviously gone into Don’s office to swipe the study.

However, Don fires Pete over it which does imply a somewhat casual hierarchy in Sterling Cooper v1.0 at the time since Don was head of Creative and Pete was supposedly in Accounts.

Man, I’m cool with this season but now I miss Season One. That was some great television. Time to hit Netflix for the DVDs again.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-4-04-the-rejected-open-spoilers/550376/104 "2010-08-18T16:53:26Z")

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You’re confusing two different incidents.

The Lucky Strikes/research report in the trash thing happened in the pilot episode.

It was much later that Draper fired Pete for pitching a creative idea to the Bethlehem Steel guy … it was the episode in which they were listening to the Bob Newhart record.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-4-04-the-rejected-open-spoilers/550376/105 "2010-08-18T17:06:54Z")

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Oops! See what I’m saying? It’s been too long!

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-4-04-the-rejected-open-spoilers/550376/106 "2010-08-18T22:40:31Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> > [@Jophiel](#):
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> > My wife said Harry’s spending too much time in California.
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> I think at some point Harry is going to relocate to the left-coast. He’s really embracing the television side of things and at some point SCDP will either open an LA office or Harry will get a job out there w/ another firm.

Joan Harris, Head of Media? 🙂 Yeah, that probally won’t happen, but it would be cool if it did.

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