# Mad-Men: 6.03 "The Collaborators" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 15, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732 "2013-04-15T00:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/61 "2013-04-16T10:04:53Z")
[Wired.com](http://Wired.com) Mad Men bedding/flirting chart: [http://www.wired.com/magazine/2012/01/pl\_madmenmap/](http://www.wired.com/magazine/2012/01/pl_madmenmap/) The picture of Don in the middle of this map contrasted with his appearance this season clearly shows his descent into unkempt swarthiness. Some other good article links here. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/62 "2013-04-16T10:11:59Z")
P.S. Note the Orange lines, “Affairs we’d like to see.” ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/63 "2013-04-16T14:46:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > …Is it my imagination or is Don looking just a teeny bit bloated, scruffy, and oily this season? Not a lot, and he is still the most gorgeous man on the set… but he doesn’t have that shiny, put-together, polished exterior that he did in the past. I’m just wondering if that’s a deliberate costume/makeup strategy to show or foreshadow his deterioration. … Well he directed this episode. Usually when you see a director, he has a week’s worth of beard and a baseball cap. It’s tough to keep your toilette in order while also functioning as a full-time _auteur_. We’re lucky he looked that good. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/64 "2013-04-16T14:49:03Z")
I might be slow, but was Megan indirectly telling the neighbor that she had had an abortion? All that stuff about how they had grown up under similar moralities? ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/65 "2013-04-16T14:50:37Z")
I was a bit distracted but I took away from it that one of the reasons she hadn’t told Don was because she was considering an abortion. And then the choice was made for her. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/66 "2013-04-16T15:36:14Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Well he directed this episode. Usually when you see a director, he has a week’s worth of beard and a baseball cap. It’s tough to keep your toilette in order while also functioning as a full-time _auteur_. We’re lucky he looked that good. Even when he looks bad he looks good. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/67 "2013-04-16T18:26:22Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I might be slow, but was Megan indirectly telling the neighbor that she had had an abortion? All that stuff about how they had grown up under similar moralities? I was going to post this as a statement, not a question. I am reasonably sure Megan’s “Miscarriage” was an abortion. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/68 "2013-04-16T18:31:35Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I was going to post this as a statement, not a question. I am reasonably sure Megan’s “Miscarriage” was an abortion. That didn’t occur to me at the time. It’s possible but I disagree. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/69 "2013-04-16T18:48:25Z")
Megan didn’t have an abortion. Her entire point was that while she was considering an abortion because of the poor timing of her pregnancy, she miscarried. “I didn’t know what I wanted to do, and I was so relieved that I didn’t have to do anything.” ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/70 "2013-04-16T18:51:11Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > Megan didn’t have an abortion. Her entire point was that while she was considering an abortion because of the poor timing of her pregnancy, she miscarried. > > “I didn’t know what I wanted to do, and I was so relieved that I didn’t have to do anything.” Agreed. I just don’t see what the point of the whole charade would be, if she really got an abortion. She could have just gotten one and not told anyone, and no one would have been any the wiser. The whole point of the conversation was her relief that she didn’t have to make such a difficult choice. ---
**Author:** ![Lightlystarched](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Lightlystarched](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightlystarched)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/71 "2013-04-16T18:52:34Z")
I don’t think Megan’s m/c was an abortion. Abortions aren’t usually done as early as 6 weeks. 8 is more typical. But maybe back then you _could_ get a d&c at 6 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/72 "2013-04-16T18:55:34Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I was going to post this as a statement, not a question. I am reasonably sure Megan’s “Miscarriage” was an abortion. I don’t see that at all. I think she’d love to have Don’t baby. What makes you think she wouldn’t? ---
**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/73 "2013-04-16T19:05:53Z")
It’s Catholic guilt. She \*thought \*about having an abortion, but then she didn’t have to. But just \*considering \*one & then having the miscarriage was enough to enact guilt. Megan feels she contributed to the miscarriage. That’s my take on it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/74 "2013-04-16T19:47:31Z")
> [@kath94](#): > > It’s Catholic guilt. She \*thought \*about having an abortion, but then she didn’t have to. But just \*considering \*one & then having the miscarriage was enough to enact guilt. Megan feels she contributed to the miscarriage. > > That’s my take on it. I think that’s exactly it. Has there been any discussion between her and Don about having kids? I’m having a hard time seeing Don doing the whole parent thing over again, even though he didn’t have to do much more than bring home the bacon. Still, those little critters have a way of interfering with your life, especially when you’re Don Fucking Draper. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/75 "2013-04-16T20:05:59Z")
> [@spifflog](#): > > I don’t see that at all. I think she’d love to have Don’t baby. What makes you think she wouldn’t? I think she doesn’t know if Don wants a baby. His oblique “whatever you want” didn’t do anything to reassure her that he wants any more children. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/76 "2013-04-16T20:55:14Z")
I couldn’t tell if he said “whatever you want” or “whenever you want”. The 2nd one would have shown her he’s all in for more kids, but the 1st is pretty wishy-washy. “Whatever makes you happy, dear.” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/77 "2013-04-16T21:03:57Z")
I assumed that Megan didn’t want to get pregnant because she knows it will mess up her acting career. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/78 "2013-04-16T21:05:53Z")
Season five, episode five: Don: Let’s make a baby. Megan: No, that’s impossible. Don: What, isn’t that how this works? So clearly it wasn’t “impossible” due to a fertility issue or she likely wouldn’t have been on the pill at all. Don’s marriage model hasn’t changed much from what he had with Betty. He still thinks kids are part of the deal, or at least he thinks that’s what a wife wants to hear. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/79 "2013-04-16T21:16:47Z")
> [@spifflog](#): > > I don’t see that at all. I think she’d love to have Don’t baby. What makes you think she wouldn’t? Her burgeoning career. ---
**Author:** ![Runs\_With\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/278dde/32.png) [@Runs\_With\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runs_With_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/80 "2013-04-16T21:42:38Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/m4QUh5g.png) > > I want a slice of that coffee cake. Thank you! The screen cap makes it even more dramatic. I can’t believe that’s not on purpose, especially with his fixation on death in the first episode. Usually a “gun to the head” means you’re being forced to do something you don’t want to do, but he’s doing exactly what he wants to do. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732.md?page=5)