# Mad-Men: 6.03 "The Collaborators" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 15, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732 "2013-04-15T00:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/81 "2013-04-16T21:46:44Z")
> [@spifflog](#): > > I don’t see that at all. I think she’d love to have Don’t baby. What makes you think she wouldn’t? She explicitly said it was a bad time because of her career and that she was contemplating an abortion and was relieved she miscarried so she wouldn’t have to face that decision during her conversation with the neighbor She repeated her concerns about the timing of getting pregnant when talking with Don. Yes she wants kids, but not now. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/82 "2013-04-16T22:32:47Z")
> [@Runs\_With\_Scissors](#): > > Thank you! > > The screen cap makes it even more dramatic. I can’t believe that’s not on purpose, especially with his fixation on death in the first episode. > > Usually a “gun to the head” means you’re being forced to do something you don’t want to do, but he’s doing exactly what he wants to do. Care to use MS Paint or something to highlight this “gun” you’re referring to? I’ve tried and I’m just not seeing it. I think you might be reaching. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/83 "2013-04-16T22:39:02Z")
[Here you go.](http://i.imgur.com/kzKqc4r.png) ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/84 "2013-04-16T22:41:15Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > She explicitly said it was a bad time because of her career and that she was contemplating an abortion and was relieved she miscarried so she wouldn’t have to face that decision during her conversation with the neighbor > > She repeated her concerns about the timing of getting pregnant when talking with Don. Yes she wants kids, but not now. She’s feeling guilty _because_ she’s feeling relieved. And she does wonder about the future because Don isn’t exactly forthcoming about what he really thinks. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/85 "2013-04-16T23:57:02Z")
Abortions were illegal back then and were sources of shame (much worse than today). I suspected she was dancing around it to gauge Sylvia’s reaction. I could be wrong but that was my sense when I watched. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/86 "2013-04-17T01:20:16Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > [Here you go.](http://i.imgur.com/kzKqc4r.png) Ah, ok. I was looking for something bigger. I’m still not sure I buy it. It kind of looks like a boot too. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/87 "2013-04-17T01:22:06Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Abortions were illegal back then and were sources of shame (much worse than today). I suspected she was dancing around it to gauge Sylvia’s reaction. I could be wrong but that was my sense when I watched. They’ve covered this on the show. Getting an abortion would be a trivial matter for a woman in Megan’s postion. All she’d need to do is make a few discreet inquiries. Her Catholic guilt is her only real obstacle. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/88 "2013-04-17T03:37:36Z")
Pete’s affair partner really needs some help in the seduction department. When you’re trying to get yourself installed as his twinkie in the city, you don’t roll out of the bathroom and declare, “Welp, I just blasted through the last of your toilet paper. Also, do you have a match? Do NOT go in there!” It was a nice touch that Pete literally only had peanuts and Cheezits on hand. I was expecting a bare mattress on the floor. How long before one of the doctor’s heart patients is dead by the time he gets to the hospital and he turns right around and comes home? I hope Don has a rope ladder or something because it’s going to be ugly. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/89 "2013-04-17T12:36:36Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > The neighbor woman clearly had an ulterior motive - she wanted out of her abusive marriage, and figured if she put out for Pete then she could extort him into helping her leave. What do we know about an “abusive marriage” ? ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/90 "2013-04-17T12:52:02Z")
Peanuts. Cheese crackers. No toilet paper. (But you get to have Pete!) He might as WELL have a bare mattress on the floor. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/91 "2013-04-17T13:43:36Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > What do we know about an “abusive marriage” ? Well, she turned up having been beaten, so it’s not a huge stretch to think it might not have been the first time. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/92 "2013-04-18T12:00:12Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > Well, she turned up having been beaten, so it’s not a huge stretch to think it might not have been the first time. Not a huge stretch but I asked whether we “know” anything. ---
**Author:** ![orderfire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orderfire/32/10908_2.png) [@orderfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orderfire)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/93 "2013-04-19T01:58:12Z")
What’s the deal with Don slumping to the floor outside the apartment in the last scene? Self-loathing? Nausea? Exhaustion? Heart attack? Or…just a gigolo? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732/94 "2013-04-19T03:57:40Z")
> [@orderfire](#): > > What’s the deal with Don slumping to the floor outside the apartment in the last scene? Self-loathing? Nausea? Exhaustion? Heart attack? Or…just a gigolo? My money’s on self-loathing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-03-the-collaborators-open-spoilers/655732.md?page=4)