# Mad-Men: 6.06 "For Immediate Release" (open spoiler)

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**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [May 5, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-06-for-immediate-release-open-spoiler/657582 "2013-05-05T23:04:10Z")
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### Author: ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-06-for-immediate-release-open-spoiler/657582/101 "2013-05-11T05:15:27Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> …Plus, I’m sure she’s not looking forward to reporting to Don (not to mention seeing Pete around the office!).  
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Worse; she’ll be reporting to Don _and_ Ted. As for Pete I think he’ll have a harder time working with Peggy than vice versa.

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### Author: ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-06-for-immediate-release-open-spoiler/657582/102 "2013-05-11T13:04:16Z")

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And in Peggy’s new/old position, her underlings won’t be afraid of her.

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### Author: ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-06-for-immediate-release-open-spoiler/657582/103 "2013-05-11T15:06:25Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I’ll further bet that every single one of them has a penis. Peggy’s accomplishments are a huge dead for anyone, man or woman (though she’ll always be a failure in her mother’s eyes). I do wonder what’ll happen if she finally hits a glass ceiling she can’t shatter.

Peggy is probably loosely modeled after [Mary Wells Lawrence](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wells_Lawrence). She was a 25-year-old copy group head in 1953 and founded Wells Rich Greene in 1965. The glass ceiling in advertising had already been shattered by 1968. Wells wasn’t just a token woman; she was the peak of the profession. You should read her book, [A Big Life in Advertising](http://www.amazon.com/A-Big-Life-In-Advertising/dp/0743245865/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368284596&sr=8-1&keywords=Mary+Wells+Lawrence.+A+Big+Life+in+Advertising), for a woman’s history of that era. Peggy, heading into the 1970s and the era of boutique agencies, can do it faster than in 12 years.

Though I have no doubt that Weiner has much misery in store for her in the near future, as you guys say.

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### Author: ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [May 23, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-06-for-immediate-release-open-spoiler/657582/104 "2013-05-23T03:11:16Z")

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my favorite exchange from the bar in Detroit –

Don: I’ve got a better idea.  
Ted: No you don’t. I just heard your idea. This is why everybody hates you.

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Question: when Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce was formed, what became of the former Sterling Cooper?

The Brits sold it to McCann Erickson, a noted sweatshop.

> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> Christina has put on a few pounds since _Firefly_. (Why aren’t _my_ extra pounds distributed that way?) She’s also wearing rocket nosecone bras…

I think the bras are a major factor.

> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I’d have thought the other two Jaguar guys would have more say than allowing Herb to do that unilaterally.

As head of the dealers association, Herb has some degree of influence independent of the Jaguar execs, but it’s not official authority.

> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> people knowledgeable about 1960s partnership law have to weigh in, but both moves - the IPO and the merger - seemed dubious to me. Can you do transactions that major without informing all the partners and getting their vote? I know that technically neither have gone through but that’s the sort of thing that spawn lawsuits, even when everything goes right.

It only really matters if someone objects. The implication is that they’re all confident that the rest of the partners will fall into line.

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> If Chevy decides they like that campaign but they don’t like Don Draper, are they free to take the slogan and the celebrity and all to another agency? Would they have to wait until a contract expired to do this?

My understanding is that in the advertising business the standard practice is to write the contract so that the file – all the work that the client signs off on – belongs to the client. So they can take it with them when they go. Of course, that assumes that they’ve paid their monthly bills all along. Work that they’ve rejected can’t be pitched to a direct competitor, but the concepts can be re-used. But I am not intimate with that industry so take that with a grain if salt.

> [@sparky\_1](#):
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> It was interesting how the actress played the part so similarly to Megan (Roger young ex).

You mean Jane Siegel?

[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase]  
(Doesn’t include Sylvia, who also isn’t frumpy.  
[/QUOTE]

To me, Sylvia is hella frumpy. I hate her clothes, coiffure, etc. I’m pretty sure Linda Cardrllini is younger than me, but when I see her she strikes me as being dressed like a granny.

> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Remember that Pete didn’t stand out so much against Ken that they (SC under the Brits) made them both “co-vice presidents” of Accounts. (or co-heads; I don’t remember the exact title

Putnam Powell actually gave Pete and Ken _different_ titles, but ones that essentially meant the same thing.

> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I got the impression that his father squandered the Dykeman fortune on foolish investments and his mistresses, not maintain the family’s upper class lifestyle per se.

The conversation at the time of Campbell Sr.'s death explicitly revealed that he didn’t have mistresses. He spent it all on golf club memberships, first class flights, and other frivolities.

> [@Erdosain](#):
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> Peggy will be copy chief but she’s getting a lot of baggage in Ginsburg and Stan. It is so much easier to be the boss of people you weren’t formerly coworkers with.

Peggy _was_ their boss before she left.

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