# Mad-Men: 6.08 "The Crash" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 19, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772 "2013-05-19T23:48:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/1 "2013-05-19T23:48:10Z")
[QUOTE=AMC] Don is disrupted by a surprise visitor. [/QUOTE] More post-merger zaniness. Jason Grote & Matthew Weiner are the co-writers. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/2 "2013-05-20T02:21:05Z")
Don’s son was playing with Sam Cobra and Geronimo from the BEST OF THE WEST series. I had both of those. (Still have them, albeit eBay replacements.) In the whorehouse flashback I was thinking “My grandmother had the exact same bedspread as that prostitute”. Now I’m wondering what my grandmother was doing ca. 1940. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/3 "2013-05-20T02:24:18Z")
Ken Cosgrove is officially the most AWESOME DUDE EVER in this episode! ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/4 "2013-05-20T02:40:58Z")
This is very very odd. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/5 "2013-05-20T02:44:59Z")
There’s been a few good lines and Cosgrove’s dance but overall this is one of the dumbest hours of television I’ve seen in quite some time. To be fair, I don’t watch much TV. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/6 "2013-05-20T02:56:22Z")
I don’t blame Grandma Ida for being offended; I hope she doesn’t give them their gifts now. Is she the same maid that Betty fired a few seasons ago? (I don’t think so as Sally probably would have remembered her and vice versa, but I’m wondering how she knows the Drapers well enough to know that Sally’s mother is a piece of work.) I’m wondering if the nutjob from the MLK episode goes to the same doctor. Any idea what shot that would have been legal in 1968 would make somebody have that reaction? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/7 "2013-05-20T03:04:09Z")
I think _Mad Men_ jumped the shark tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/8 "2013-05-20T03:12:09Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I’m wondering if the nutjob from the MLK episode goes to the same doctor. Any idea what shot that would have been legal in 1968 would make somebody have that reaction? In real life that would have been the work of [“Dr. Feelgood”](http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7058409/the-last-boy) whose “proprietary” combination of vitamins, amphetamines and whatever other shit he put in his serums could do magical things, or kill you, either way. John F. Kennedy, Mickey Mantle and Today show host Dave Garroway were all rumored to be among his patients. Billy Crystal said when his grandmother came home from her doctor’s appointments, she would make nine pot roasts in an hour. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/9 "2013-05-20T03:14:27Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > In real life that would have been the work of [“Dr. Feelgood”](http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7058409/the-last-boy) whose “proprietary” combination of vitamins, amphetamines and whatever other shit he put in his serums could do magical things, or kill you, either way. Roger: I’ve got a heart condition. Doctor: Don’t worry about it. Actually, we didn’t see Roger after that, did we? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/10 "2013-05-20T03:33:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I think _Mad Men_ jumped the shark tonight. It was a very self indulgent episode. I suppose we learned that Don’s first sexual experience was a bit traumatic, but whose isn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/11 "2013-05-20T04:23:53Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Is she the same maid that Betty fired a few seasons ago? (I don’t think so as Sally probably would have remembered her and vice versa, but I’m wondering how she knows the Drapers well enough to know that Sally’s mother is a piece of work. She doesn’t. She’s a con. She’s making a very good guess that all teenage girls think their mothers are a piece of work. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/12 "2013-05-20T05:25:28Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > This is very very odd. That is exactly what I came into here to post. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/13 "2013-05-20T05:30:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I think _Mad Men_ jumped the shark tonight. +1. When writers run out of ideas, they do a drug episode. Whose idea was it to stone most of the creative staff? Why didn’t anyone say who Wendy was? Was Don standing in the corridor flashing back to the whorehouse all night? Not to mention that New York in 1968 was not exactly crime free. Even if Don did forget to lock the door, and even if the door didn’t lock itself, and even if the doorman somehow let her through, Sally almost certainly would have checked staying with no adults. (Seinfeld was not realistic.) Maybe gave the writers some shots, and they thought this was wonderful? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/14 "2013-05-20T12:58:40Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Why didn’t anyone say who Wendy was? The I Ching girl? She was Frank Gleason’s daughter. Ted asks Cutler why he’d bring Frank’s daughter to the office and Cutler says he thought it was better than the Village where she wanted to go. ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/15 "2013-05-20T13:15:18Z")
This one made me laugh a lot. Nice change from all the darkness of the last couple episodes. Ken’s tap dance was awesome. Is Don a superhero? Once again, after a weekend of dissipation, he looked fresh as a daisy on Monday. I think Roger got the shot just for the experience, since he didn’t need to stay around all weekend, being in accounts. Cutler probably got the shot because he likes the way it makes him feel (but Stan still beat him in two footraces). ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/16 "2013-05-20T13:15:19Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > The I Ching girl? She was Frank Gleason’s daughter. Ted asks Cutler why he’d bring Frank’s daughter to the office and Cutler says he thought it was better than the Village where she wanted to go. Yeah, but he didn’t say it until pretty late in the episode IIRC. I thought the Rosens were moving to Minnesota to work at the Mayo Clinic. How come they’re still hanging around? I’m glad Betty is back to her correct hair color and is starting to look like herself again. No Joan at all this episode! :mad: I did love it when Bobby said, “Are we Negroes?” ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/17 "2013-05-20T13:19:52Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Roger: I’ve got a heart condition. > Doctor: Don’t worry about it. > > Actually, we didn’t see Roger after that, did we? The same thought occured to me as well. If any character would have great one liners while high it would be Roger. Sadly, no sign of him for the rest of the show. Is he going to turn up dead in his office? That would be a shame. I really like him. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/18 "2013-05-20T13:58:29Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > The same thought occured to me as well. If any character would have great one liners while high it would be Roger. Sadly, no sign of him for the rest of the show. Is he going to turn up dead in his office? That would be a shame. I really like him. Nah, episodes almost always jump ahead a month or so. If they were going to kill off Roger, it would have unambiguously happened in this episode. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/19 "2013-05-20T14:04:49Z")
> [@h.sapiens](#): > > This one made me laugh a lot. Nice change from all the darkness of the last couple episodes. Ken’s tap dance was awesome. It was, but I spent the entire time internally wincing for his injured [foot/ankle/leg]. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772/20 "2013-05-20T14:11:23Z")
While the episode sucked – _another_ drug episode, _really_? – some of the bits were good. Like, Peggy realizing that Don hasn’t been working on Chrysler at all for the entire weekend. Or Ted getting to see the other Don at the end, that maybe Peggy could have warned him about. And Ken’s tapdancing! (he’s even better than Pete and Trudy dancing). But given how the two Creative guys were so eager for their shots, and how Peggy obviously had done this before, I thought it was a bit odd that Ted was surprised at the weekend’s work being nothing but gibberish. I’d think he’d’ve known to expect that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-08-the-crash-open-spoilers/658772.md?page=2)