# Mad-Men: 6.10 "A Tail of Two Cities" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 3, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984 "2013-06-03T00:10:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/1 "2013-06-03T00:10:05Z")
[QUOTE=AMC] The agency works to keep a client. [/QUOTE] It’s another John Slatterly episode directed by. ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/2 "2013-06-03T01:23:54Z")
\*tale \*Slattery Also, are you Yoda? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/3 "2013-06-03T02:18:18Z")
Joan thought she was on a date with the Avon guy… seems as though Bob Benson ain’t no thing. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/4 "2013-06-03T03:15:26Z")
I bet Joan’s sure glad she still has the same office now. 😉 Granted it’ll be uncomfortable for her if Avon doesn’t come through, but it’s not something she’s going to lose her job over. I love how quickly Ted stopped caring. Ginsberg directly asking Bob if he was a homo? 🙂 I guess more that the audience suspect it. Roger getting punched in the balls by Danny was fucking spectacular. I do hate the name “Sterling, Cooper, & Partners”, but I can understand why they chose it. Of course what I’d really like to see before the show ends is Olsen, [del]Harris[/del] Holloway, & Cosgrove. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/5 "2013-06-03T03:17:59Z")
Bob Benson continues to be a mystery. Roger: “I’m Vasco da Gama and you’re some other Mexican.” The best thing was Joan asserting herself on the Avon account–you go girl!! Peggy’s attitude, unfortunately, is probably quite accurate, and might even be accurate today in those circumstances. I especially love seeing Pete falling to pieces. Except for the Joan stuff, I thought the episode was “meh” and sort of churned around without going much of anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/6 "2013-06-03T03:36:35Z")
I totally get that they’re trying to show the carefree attitude toward drugs of the era – but _not one damn more drug episode, damnit_. All the cliche drug hallucinations are boring me to boredom. Oddly, having schizo Ginsberg ask Bob if he’s “a homo” did more than anything else to convince me that’s where they’re going with that character. (And, no, I doubt they’ll have Sal show up in Detroit.) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/7 "2013-06-03T03:38:24Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > I totally get that they’re trying to show the carefree attitude toward drugs of the era – but _not one damn more drug episode, damnit_. All the cliche drug hallucinations are boring me to boredom. Seriously. I don’t care if they show people _doing_ drugs but I don’t need to see any more of Weiner’s fantasies about what being on drugs must be like. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/8 "2013-06-03T03:47:12Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Seriously. I don’t care if they show people _doing_ drugs but I don’t need to see any more of Weiner’s fantasies about what being on drugs must be like. Quoted for truth. And the place where the party was going on? Way too clean and neat, the place and the people, even for Southern California. Roger looked ridiculous in that blazer. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/9 "2013-06-03T04:01:58Z")
The blazer? Dude was wearing a _cravat_. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/10 "2013-06-03T04:08:34Z")
I’m not sure how I feel about Joan’s actions. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/11 "2013-06-03T04:25:52Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Quoted for truth. And the place where the party was going on? Way too clean and neat, the place and the people, even for Southern California. > > Roger looked ridiculous in that blazer. This episode did not capture the mood of the time. I was 24 years old in 1972; granted, I did not attend Hollywood parties. But in 1972, the Viet Nam POWs started coming home. The following year was the Watergate hearings (I watched every minute on TV). The 60s are over. Peace and love are on the way out. It’s going to be hard to hit the right note from here on. I agree: no more hallucinations, and that goes for dream sequences, too. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/12 "2013-06-03T04:26:59Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I’m not sure how I feel about Joan’s actions. I’m curious. Say more about this, please. ---
**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/13 "2013-06-03T04:39:15Z")
I really enjoyed the confrontation between Ginsberg and Cutler (Harry Hamlin’s character). Great TV. Also got a kick out of “…this call is costing us a fortune…”. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/14 "2013-06-03T04:48:20Z")
It disturbs me that the show is really going there with the “Megan is Sharon Stone” subtext. The red star T-shirt last week, now her showing up in Don’s out-of-body experience in a flower power outfit gushing about the baby she’s carrying? I happen to like Megan and would absolutely hate seeing anything bad happen to her. (Well, anything aside from being Don Draper’s naive wife. That’s a bad thing.) When Ginsberg asked Bob if he was a homo. He conspicuously did not say no. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/15 "2013-06-03T04:50:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This episode did not capture the mood of the time. I was 24 years old in 1972; granted, I did not attend Hollywood parties. But in 1972, the Viet Nam POWs started coming home. The following year was the Watergate hearings (I watched every minute on TV). The 60s are over. Peace and love are on the way out. It’s going to be hard to hit the right note from here on. > > I agree: no more hallucinations, and that goes for dream sequences, too. It’s August 1968. (I do agree that they should quit it with the “this is what it’s like to be high/tripping” scenes.) ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/16 "2013-06-03T05:13:19Z")
[QUOTE=Burt Cooper] …I agree to withdraw my name, along with the _other_ deceased partners… [/QUOTE] Did anyone else catch this? :dubious: Of course it would’ve been much funnier if nobody actually addressed Burt directly. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BluePear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@BluePear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePear)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/17 "2013-06-03T07:22:34Z")
Finally, an episode I enjoyed, after weeks of disappointment. This was a good one. Well, actually the Joan stuff was good. I liked what she did, albeit flawed and good for Peggy for being honest with her, and helping her. Honestly, the only reason Pete was upset was because he’s becoming more and more irrelevant. Man, I’m starting to like that Bob Benson. That homo question was pretty great, but I can def see it. I mean really, isn’t he the only guy to have had a conversation with Joan and not been mesmerized by her chest? He even seemed aloof in that whorehouse waiting for Pete. But I guess off to Detroit for him. Sterling, Cooper & Partners? Eh, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/18 "2013-06-03T10:48:50Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Did anyone else catch this? :dubious: Of course it would’ve been much funnier if nobody actually addressed Burt directly. 😉 Yes! I loved that line. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/19 "2013-06-03T12:24:39Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > It’s August 1968. You’re right. My bad. I must be tripping. The Democratic Convention…1968. Yeah. I was having an out of body experience. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984/20 "2013-06-03T12:53:15Z")
One thing I thought was nice: Don mumbling on the flight home how he usually finds California so great. Times - and Don - have changed. When _Mad Men_ started, Don was the smooth, suave embodiment of the times. He’s not, anymore. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-10-a-tail-of-two-cities/659984.md?page=2)