# Mad-Men: 6.13 "In Care Of", SEASON FINALE, (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 24, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748 "2013-06-24T01:42:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/61 "2013-06-24T18:21:15Z")
My favorite line from last night: “NOT GREAT, BOB!” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/62 "2013-06-24T18:56:54Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > My favorite line from last night: > > “NOT GREAT, BOB!” I liked “Have you had a performance review yet?” “Yes! It was…” “Yeah, I don’t give a shit.” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/63 "2013-06-24T19:24:52Z")
In Don’s defense, I didn’t see his recent offenses as being nearly as great as when Roger sat on the fact that Lucky Strike had pulled out or tried to deliberately sabotage the Yamaha account due to his hatred of the Japanese. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/64 "2013-06-24T19:26:46Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I find it fascinating that everyone hates Megan, yet she has been extremely patient and even headed and tried to make it work, while Don has lied and cheated on her. I thought her finial scene was very good. Yet folks hate Megan. Last season, I didn’t like Megan. I thought she reacted to Don’s crap in a way that was really infantile. This season, she’s a lot less annoying. That said, I wouldn’t mind it at all if she didn’t show up next season. Her storyline seems to be pretty much done. > [@](#): > > Sally drinking and using a fake name…sounds familiar. Wasn’t that her mother’s name (Beth Francis)? ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/65 "2013-06-24T19:31:47Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Wasn’t that her mother’s name (Beth Francis)? Her mom’s name is Betty. But Sally’s middle name is Beth, we saw it on the letter she got about giving her witness statement. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/66 "2013-06-24T19:49:03Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > In Don’s defense, I didn’t see his recent offenses as being nearly as great as when Roger sat on the fact that Lucky Strike had pulled out or tried to deliberately sabotage the Yamaha account due to his hatred of the Japanese. I’d say throwing away Jaguar well exceeded not saying Lucky Strikes pulled (already a done deal) or his Honda (wasn’t it Honda? They thought getting the scooter/motorcycle would help them get in with the car division) behavior which was pretty well shut down by Bert. Roger getting a meeting in with Chevy and that covering for Jaguar was just plain luck. Had Roger been sleeping with a different girl, SCDP would have been seriously hurt by losing Jaguar. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/67 "2013-06-24T21:45:19Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > Her mom’s name is Betty. But Sally’s middle name is Beth, we saw it on the letter she got about giving her witness statement. I thought “Betty” was short for “Elizabeth.” ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/68 "2013-06-24T22:42:43Z")
> [@divemaster](#): > > I’m not sure what exactly it was that changed Don’s mind about going to California. Ted wanted to go to start over with his family and Don basically said, “Sorry pal, you’re too late; I’m going.” I took it was a delayed reaction to Ted’s line about Don letting the good man inside him out. Don WANTS to be a good man, but he knows he isn’t. For once in his life he put someone else’s needs ahead of his own desires. ---
**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/69 "2013-06-24T22:44:38Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Did anybody else find the double meaning of “Going down?” a little blunt? I am only a watcher of the show so I can’t recall if the elevator foreboding from last season was ever finished off, but my impression was that the empty elevator shaft finally got its payoff in last night’s finale. I think Don as we know him “died” with the final push being into the elevator by a former competitor and Duck. Maybe I’m overthinking it, but I thought the “Going down?” was too obvious and was only the first layer of the meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/70 "2013-06-24T22:56:08Z")
I thought the guy who ran the brothel had a good line, “I’d tell you go to hell, but I never want to see you again!” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/71 "2013-06-25T00:41:22Z")
> [@Disheavel](#): > > I am only a watcher of the show … 😕 And the rest of us are…? ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/72 "2013-06-25T00:48:32Z")
The whorehouse presentation was the most devastatingly sick and sad presentation the Hershey execs or anyone will ever hear. Let’s show a teenage boy rifling through johns clothes at a whorehouse for money and valuable shit to earn a Hershey bar from the whore with a heart of gold so he can feel like a normal kid. America will love it! Not to mention the other 29 biggest agencies who no doubt heard of the “Don Draper whorehouse pitch” that sent the Hershey guys walking out of the building with their jaws on the floor and worried about the sanity of Don Draper and SC&P in general. It may have been cleansing for Don, but the rest of Madison Ave wants to take a shower. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/73 "2013-06-25T01:35:57Z")
Why are you under the impressionist that was a pitch? It wasn’t. Don actually says it wasn’t. It was the opposite. He basically told them they didn’t need advertising. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/74 "2013-06-25T01:50:46Z")
It wasn’t a pitch. It was Don baring his soul, desperately trying to find an authentic moment and realizing that no one cares. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/75 "2013-06-25T01:56:55Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Why are you under the impressionist that was a pitch? It wasn’t. Don actually says it wasn’t. > > It was the opposite. He basically told them they didn’t need advertising. I was wondering about that. How _do_ you sell an icon like Hershey’s chocolate or Coca-Cola? Virtually everyone in America has warm, fuzzy feelings about these brands, so how do you sell them? (When I’m watching Mad Men, I like to think about how I’d sell the brands presented.) ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/76 "2013-06-25T01:59:17Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > It wasn’t a pitch. It was Don baring his soul, desperately trying to find an authentic moment and realizing that no one cares. I understand that. You understand that. The audience understands that. But Hershey didn’t. The partners didn’t. That’s why it was the final straw after a year full of shit from him and they told him to take some time off. Try to see it from the clients and partners point of view. It was seriously a mess. As I said - It may have been cleansing for Don, but the rest of Madison Ave wants to take a shower. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/77 "2013-06-25T02:01:03Z")
Of course. Your commented suggested you didn’t see it that way, so I and the previous poster were clarifying. ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/78 "2013-06-25T02:11:54Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Of course. Your commented suggested you didn’t see it that way, so I and the previous poster were clarifying. No, I was just pointing out to the posters who thought that his whorehouse story wasn’t that big of a deal. It was to Hershey and the partners. They had no idea why or what to think. So when the clients left it was a huge deal to the agency. So much so that he is out on his ass. They didn’t even ask for an explanation. Just go! ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/79 "2013-06-25T02:19:55Z")
> [@kevja](#): > > I understand that. You understand that. The audience understands that. > > But Hershey didn’t. The partners didn’t. > > That’s why it was the final straw after a year full of shit from him and they told him to take some time off. > > Try to see it from the clients and partners point of view. It was seriously a mess. Exactly. As the audience, we already know all of Don’s secrets, wity Weiner dropping little morsels of information a little at a time over the course of the series. Don vomited like three season’s worth of exposition all over the table at that Hershey’s meeting. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748/80 "2013-06-25T06:18:01Z")
Don, as a partner, can’t be fired. His ownership stake stays. But Don, as an employee, can be fired or suspended, which seems to be what happened. He’ll still get his share of the profits, but possibly not his salary (which, as a partner, is probably trivial anyway). Pete, going to LA? A man who can’t drive in NYC can get along just fine. But a man who can’t drive in LA? He might as well be a paraplegic! He won’t last a week out there. To me, the best part of the entire episode was the very end. Sally’s look at Don outside the whorehouse, and Don’s look back at her. She may not have known that it was a brothel, but she suddenly knew that her father’s background was very, very different from anything she’s ever known, and she suddenly knew that she couldn’t judge him in the way that she has been. And he, silently, acknowledges that he knows that she knows it. I thought that silent exchange was brilliant, both from a writing perspective and an acting perspective. Also LOVED the ending song (Looked at life from both sides now). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-6-13-in-care-of-season-finale-open-spoilers/661748.md?page=5)