# Mad-Men: 7.01 "Time Zones" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 13, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051 "2014-04-13T23:14:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/21 "2014-04-14T19:51:15Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Well, the first restaurant was The Dresden on Vermont. Oh nice. I’ve only been there once and didn’t recognize it. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/22 "2014-04-14T20:42:46Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Aston Heally, I think. [Austin Healey 3000](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin-Healey_3000). I remember them well. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/23 "2014-04-14T22:56:49Z")
The shoe-company marketing exec whom Joan met for drinks was played by Dan Byrd, who plays Travis on Cougartown. I had trouble accepting his character because the actor looks quite young (really no different than when he played an awkward teenager on Aliens in America). ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/24 "2014-04-14T23:08:33Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > [Austin Healey 3000](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin-Healey_3000). I remember them well. Ooh, nice. Want. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/25 "2014-04-14T23:19:20Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I know the episode was meant to catch us up on the main cast, but is seemed a bit random and disjointed. Mad Men is suffering a bit from late-stage Ensemble Cast Syndrome (don’t know what the official term is for it), where every character has to have his or her own subplot to keep the actors interested in their roles, and then you end up with five or six mediocre storylines instead of one or two really good ones. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/26 "2014-04-14T23:37:15Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Pete’s hijinks reminded me of Lane’s new life after moving to New York. Is Pete’s dad dead? I could do with another scene of someone clubbing Pete… > > I’m not buying Roger in a threesome with another guy. Pete’s dad died in a plane crash in one of the early seasons. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/27 "2014-04-14T23:39:37Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > I thought Don wearing a hat was another cue that he is literally old hat. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > That’s how I read it. Except in the scene I was referring to, all the men were wearing hats, not just Don. He was walking outside somewhere-- I’m not even sure if it was LA or NYC, but assume the latter. If it was meant to show the contrast between LA and NYC, then I’m surprised the writers would go for that over realism. They tend to do period detail so meticulously, I can’t imagine they would need to break detail in order to contrast the two. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/28 "2014-04-14T23:42:27Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The shoe-company marketing exec whom Joan met for drinks was played by Dan Byrd, who plays Travis on Cougartown. I had trouble accepting his character because the actor looks quite young (really no different than when he played an awkward teenager on Aliens in America). Interesting note about Dan Byrd and his audition for that role (from the [New York Times](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/14/arts/television/neve-campbell-appears-in-mad-men-season-premiere.html)): > [@](#): > > Mr. Weiner said he was not familiar with Mr. Byrd, who plays the awkward, sarcastic son of divorced parents on the comedy “Cougar Town,” when he came in to read, which Mr. Byrd said was just as well since he was certain he had blown the audition. > > “I thought it went really poorly,” Mr. Byrd said, “to the point where I immediately left and put myself on tape, thinking I could maybe salvage the experience. But I’d say I leave 95 percent of auditions feeling terrible.” > > That, it turned out, was the exact quality Mr. Weiner said he was looking for in the actor. > > “Anyone can come in and act snotty and in charge,” he said. “He’s playing insecurity, and when you’re anxious at an audition, it’s probably one of the easiest emotions to do.” To me he resembled a younger (if possible), slightly chunky Leonardo Dicaprio. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/29 "2014-04-14T23:52:00Z")
I took the shot of suited men with hats outside the LA airport as a visual cue that there is a big influx of businessmen/New Yorkers coming to LA, who don’t quite fit in there. Reinforced by other things in the episode like the double mention of cruddy bagels in LA. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Pete’s dad died in a plane crash in one of the early seasons. Aw, damnit. I still hold out hope for one last Pete-beatdown before the series ends! ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/30 "2014-04-14T23:56:42Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > Mad Men is suffering a bit from late-stage Ensemble Cast Syndrome (don’t know what the official term is for it), where every character has to have his or her own subplot to keep the actors interested in their roles, and then you end up with five or six mediocre storylines instead of one or two really good ones. I had trouble keeping track of just who was who. I’m hoping that the show focuses a little more on just a few of the characters each episode now that we’ve got the opener out of the way and are theoretically caught up with everyone. I did like the way that Don and Joan, especially, seem to be realizing that they’re showing their age and aren’t as hip as they once were. Don’s sharp ladies’ man persona is beginning to look a little past its prime and Joan’s Maidenform Woman sexpot image just doesn’t have the effect it did before girls started burning their bras and shortening their miniskirts. I did notice how short Joan’s skirt was in her first office scene - it looks like she’s trying to keep up, but by 1969, Youth had the bit in its teeth and was well on the way to marginalizing its elders. My own dad, who was generally very invested in his self-image as an up-to-date, swinging kind of guy, had abandoned hats by 1965 or so, and by 1969 his lapels and ties had widened by almost as many inches as his hair had lengthened. He wasn’t in advertising or in Manhattan, though. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/31 "2014-04-15T00:16:15Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The shoe-company marketing exec whom Joan met for drinks was played by Dan Byrd, who plays Travis on Cougartown. I had trouble accepting his character because the actor looks quite young (really no different than when he played an awkward teenager on Aliens in America). The contrast between him & Joan is striking. Admittedly he’s about a decade to old to be her son, but Joan could’ve easily have been changing his diapers for pocket money in junior high. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Pete’s dad died in a plane crash in one of the early seasons. And his mother “fell” overboard last season while on a cruise after eloping with her ex-nurse, who was also Bob Benson’s ex-boyfriend. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/32 "2014-04-15T03:09:01Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Did Don say Pete was dressed “like a hippie”? More like preppie! Really. But he said “hippie”. Maybe Don confusing “hippie” with “preppie” was to show that he’s still out of touch. I liked the episode more than I thought I would, especially the scene with Joan and the professor. And even though she’s out of his league, I thought there was some chemistry between Joan and the shoe company guy. They’re a mismatch, but there were sparks. That closing shot of Don giving up on the sliding doors – what’s it mean? Does he recognize that he can’t control every aspect of his life now? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/33 "2014-04-15T03:29:20Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > That closing shot of Don giving up on the sliding doors – what’s it mean? Does he recognize that he can’t control every aspect of his life now? Much like Don’s hat showed that he was old hat, I think that closing shot showed that Don is alone out in the cold. And as his conversation with Neve indicated, he knows it. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/34 "2014-04-15T04:17:43Z")
Did anyone else catch the meta reference the agent made in regards to Megan Draper / Jessica Paré? “I’ll say one thing about this girl, she evokes strong feelings.” I think that’s such a wink from Matthew Weiner. Lots of fans hate her. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/35 "2014-04-15T07:28:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Glad it’s finally been acknowledged that Megan has horse teeth. Megan herself acknowledged her teeth in the Disneyland episode. She tells Don that an actress friend told her she could never be an actress because of her teeth. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/36 "2014-04-15T07:39:23Z")
I found the multiple airplane rides and the parachute reference to be very suspicious in that, I can’t help if but wonder if it supports this amazing theory I heard last year about how Mad Men will end: > **[Where Don Draper ends, D.B. Cooper begins](https://medium.com/@lindseymgreen/where-don-draper-ends-d-b-cooper-begins-e96804523838)** > > Clues to the ending of ‘Mad Men’ have been embedded within the show since its very beginning ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/37 "2014-04-15T08:32:36Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Megan hasn’t actually left Don, but he’s lying to her about work. I don’t think it’s totally clear that Don’s lying to Megan about work. For one thing, Don has no reaction when Pete says he’d been meaning to look Megan up, so he’s ostensibly not concerned that she would learn the truth from Pete. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/38 "2014-04-15T09:12:57Z")
I’m sure it was deliberate that in the last shot of Peggy, she was wearing a crocheted tam with a pompom. Also struck by Ken tossing the earring to Joan and missing by a country mile. Because he has poor depth perception. He lost an eye for this agency, and this is the respect he gets. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/39 "2014-04-15T12:01:42Z")
I’m missing the significance of the tam and pompom. Please explain for the slow class. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051/40 "2014-04-15T12:42:26Z")
Wait a sec. Nobody else thought last shot of Don was supposed to be the beginning of alcohol withdrawal? He didn’t touch the liquor Freddie brought over, and he had the door open when Freddie arrived. I assumed he was having bad hot flashes. Also, he wasn’t necessarily lying to Megan. He has been working, but just as a freelancer. I don’t think Freddie is paying him, but he’s getting his ideas in front of people, which I assume is the first step in getting his job back. I thought it was interesting that he told Megan he “had to work” as an excuse to leave, then told Neve that he “had to work” as an excuse to stay faithful to Megan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-01-time-zones-open-spoilers/686051.md?page=3)