# Mad-Men: 7.10 "The Forecast" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 20, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080 "2015-04-20T00:31:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/21 "2015-04-20T15:50:32Z")
The scenes between Glen and Betty were hard to watch because both actors are so wooden. I want to feel sympathy for Glen, but the acting makes it impossible. I think it’s a case of nepotism gone wrong. He’s Weiner’s kid. Both Don & Betty were basking in the adoring attention from their children’s friends. It was telling that Betty’s only reason for turning down Glen was the fact that she’s married. You would think the inappropriateness of getting involved with her daughter’s childhood friend would also be a compelling reason, but not for her. It’s nice that Richard had a change of heart re: Joan and her kid, but everything between them happened at lighting speed and it’s difficult to get emotionally invested in a character we barely know. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/22 "2015-04-20T16:02:11Z")
Betty could have been polite by saying “Because I’m married”. It takes the burden off both of them: “Hey, whatcha gonna do, huh?” Certainly being married hasn’t stopped Betty before. Kudos to **Honey** for pinpointing the previous Joan marriage and to **SaharaTea** for knowing what’s-his-name’s name. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/23 "2015-04-20T16:09:48Z")
I was trying to place the actress playing Sarah on this episode. She’s appeared as Sienna on _Modern Family_ at the fair when Luke has a crush on Alexis’ friend. She’s been on a bunch of other things as well. She was the one flirting with Don, not the other way around; I thought he was being very diplomatic and trying to not give her any extra attention. I forgot what he called her; it wasn’t “flirt” but something else that pegged her character well. At least she had a plan for her life unlike Sally. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/24 "2015-04-20T16:15:13Z")
In general, I think these episodes are freeling really rushed and heavy handed. Don’s apartment is symbolic of Don: pretty, but empty and a little shabby, here let me hit you over the head with that a few more times. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/25 "2015-04-20T16:24:40Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > She was the one flirting with Don, not the other way around; I thought he was being very diplomatic and trying to not give her any extra attention. I forgot what he called her; it wasn’t “flirt” but something else that pegged her character well. At least she had a plan for her life unlike Sally. He called her “fast”, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/26 "2015-04-20T16:27:51Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > … I forgot what he called her; it wasn’t “flirt” but something else that pegged her character well. “Fast”. I thought it came off as a bit old-timey, in an episode where all the oldsters are shocked about people dropping F-bombs and such. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/27 "2015-04-20T16:32:26Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > “Fast”. I thought it came off as a bit old-timey, in an episode where all the oldsters are shocked about people dropping F-bombs and such. I think the shock about F-bombs wasn’t the word itself, but that it was used in front of a client. Don’s own story was simply about interrupting a client and how bad that was perceived! I think “fast” to describe a promiscuous appearing girl was still fairly common then. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/28 "2015-04-20T18:51:14Z")
Isn’t everyone burying the lead? Sally’s not a virgin anymore! “This conversation is a little late.” I know it was supposed to be a joke, but it’s clearly not. The only futures that are at issue are those of Sally and Glenn and her friends. They are blank slates. Why are we supposed to care about Don’s future? Or Joan’s or Betty’s or Peggy’s? Are their plans also supposed to be no plans? That future doesn’t work. There is no glorious next step that’s worth putting down on paper. (Not that McCann wants anything other than “get a new big account.”) Life happens to adults, not the Future. The Future is for kids. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/29 "2015-04-20T18:52:40Z")
I wonder if we’re going to meet a new character in every single one of the last few episodes. I feel like this whole thing is just unraveling with no focus or direction. The Glen-Betty thing was just gross… “you’re mine”?? Ewww. Sally’s statement about both her parents being attention whores was right on the money. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/30 "2015-04-20T18:57:31Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Isn’t everyone burying the lead? Sally’s not a virgin anymore! “This conversation is a little late.” I know it was supposed to be a joke, but it’s clearly not. She then followed it with “And so am I [a little late]” and then smiled with Betty- so I think the whole comment was probably a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/31 "2015-04-20T19:13:10Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Isn’t everyone burying the lead? Sally’s not a virgin anymore! “This conversation is a little late.” I know it was supposed to be a joke, but it’s clearly not. No, it clearly was a joke. You neglect the next line–“And so am I”–which implied that Sally was pregnant. If Betty or the viewer were meant to take the bit seriously, the entire tenor of the scene would have changed. Sally spent that scene trying to irritate her mother; Betty was just too wise to take the bait. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/32 "2015-04-20T19:41:11Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > She was the one flirting with Don, not the other way around; I thought he was being very diplomatic and trying to not give her any extra attention. I forgot what he called her; it wasn’t “flirt” but something else that pegged her character well. At least she had a plan for her life unlike Sally. Don gave her plenty of attention, I thought. That was the reason for what Sally said in front of the bus. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/33 "2015-04-20T19:45:28Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Don gave her plenty of attention, I thought. That was the reason for what Sally said in front of the bus. I didn’t see it that way. Ordinarily I’m all over saying cruel things about Don, but he was pretty clearly just tolerating the kid’s inappropriate behavior so as not to embarrass her. And I daresay Sally would have lit into him if he’d shut the girl down more sternly. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/34 "2015-04-20T19:46:43Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Why are we supposed to care about Don’s future? Or Joan’s or Betty’s or Peggy’s? Are their plans also supposed to be no plans? That future doesn’t work. Hence the reason for Richard’s existence in this episode, I presume. _Look, retired guy who is adamant about having no plans!_ Well, until he meets Joan and, days later, decides he needs to move across the country to hang out with her, her kid and her mom. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/35 "2015-04-20T19:57:21Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > They’re doing this really annoying thing where they announce “only _x_ episodes left before the series finale”. So there are three episodes, then there’s one more. … I agree: it’s very annoying. FX makes a point of doing that, too (“x episodes left before the finale.”) Why do they think it’s such a grabber?..it’s dopey. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/36 "2015-04-20T20:04:22Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Isn’t everyone burying the lead? Gah, [lede](http://grammarist.com/usage/lead-lede/), please. And the entire point of Joan’s storyline was setting up her happy future. Since the episode spent a good amount of focus on that, ultimately without undermining it, it does not look like we’re supposed to think that the only futures that matter are the kids. … Particularly with the ominous implication that Glenn doesn’t _have_ a future. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/37 "2015-04-20T20:04:23Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Don gave her plenty of attention, I thought. That was the reason for what Sally said in front of the bus. And Don’s point was that Sally doesn’t know everything. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/38 "2015-04-20T20:05:20Z")
Bruce Greenwood is in good shape for man who is almost 60, but I wonder why they went with somebody who is 20 years older than Christina Hendricks. Other then Roger, has it been established that she likes older men? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/39 "2015-04-20T20:06:41Z")
Regardless if she doesn’t, IMO its fairly obvious Don was playing along with the flirting and enjoying it. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/40 "2015-04-20T20:09:59Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Bruce Greenwood is in good shape for man who is almost 60, but I wonder why they went with somebody who is 20 years older than Christina Hendricks. Other then Roger, has it been established that she likes older men? Well, the usual pattern in Western culture is that a 40-year-old woman’s “natural” match is considered to be a man who is 60, or even more. (Hendricks will turn 40 in May.) (There must be some examples of 40-year-old female characters matched up with men who are the same age. But I can’t think of any, offhand.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080.md?page=3)