# Mad-Men: 7.10 "The Forecast" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 20, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080 "2015-04-20T00:31:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/61 "2015-04-21T13:35:44Z")
Marten Holden Weiner. Huh? Why would you name your kid Holden Weiner? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/62 "2015-04-21T13:43:06Z")
A fan of the writing of J.D. Salinger, perhaps? Or a fan of Australian General Motors cars. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/63 "2015-04-21T14:40:04Z")
> [@Mr\_Downtown](#): > > Betty throwing away Bobby’s toy gun seemed so contrived. Directly descended from throwing the Vichy water in the Casablanca airport trash can. I immediately thought of the movie Lord of War where Cage’s character takes his sleeping son’s toy cowboy revolver and throws it away. Plus, in both cases the gun being thrown away wasn’t even a (current) military style weapon. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/64 "2015-04-21T15:08:00Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Marten Holden Weiner. Huh? Why would you name your kid Holden Weiner? It’s probably pronounced “winer”, which is the German pronunciation (actually, “viner” would be more accurate). ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/65 "2015-04-21T17:51:17Z")
I hope he gets fragged, stupid kid. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/66 "2015-04-21T18:41:28Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/67 "2015-04-21T18:52:45Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I hope he gets fragged, stupid kid. On his way to basic training, Pete will shoot him with his .22 rifle from Season 1. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/68 "2015-04-21T19:00:23Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The entire exchange with Betty, Glen and Sally was boring and poorly acted. The three of them sounded like they were reading off of cue cards. The actor who plays Glen should look into becoming a plumber. Oh man, that was tedious. It was possibly the most painful scene of the entire series, watching Glenn and Betty’s conversation. It seemed to last for 20 minutes. The kid’s no actor, but I think it’s his dead-eyed stare that really kills it for me. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/69 "2015-04-21T20:50:30Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Marten Holden Weiner. Huh? Why would you name your kid Holden Weiner? > [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s probably pronounced “winer”, which is the German pronunciation (actually, “viner” would be more accurate). Sure, but most people won’t know how it’s supposed to be pronounced. In print, it’s risible. It was either a thoughtless thing to do to the kid, or pure sadism. > [@corkboard](#): > > Oh man, that was tedious. It was possibly the most painful scene of the entire series, watching Glenn and Betty’s conversation. It seemed to last for 20 minutes. The kid’s no actor, but I think it’s his dead-eyed stare that really kills it for me. If those two performers had a child, it would be the AntiThespian–a being whose acting abilities are so far into negative territory that by uttering a single line, it can suck all believability from performances taking place within twenty square miles. We’re talking _Troll 2_ bad, here. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/70 "2015-04-21T21:45:38Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > The gun being thrown away wasn’t even a (current) military style weapon. I had the one Betty threw away when I was a kid. It was made by the Marx toy company, which also produced a Luger complete with holster and pistol belt and a Wehrmacht helmet, all in plastic. (I believe the submachine gun was a copy of a German weapon as well.) I nit you shot! They must have made those for all the guys my age who didn’t dream of being Sgt. Saunders. That said, I wish I still had all the WWII stuff my dad bought me, German included. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/71 "2015-04-21T21:49:03Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I thought he looked like Frank Sinatra! Nope. Dr McCoy in _ **Star Trek III** _. (Wasn’t that the one where he wore the gay neckerchief? :dubious: ) ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/72 "2015-04-22T02:07:20Z")
Will Joan bust Lou for shopping his comic strip around on company time? Peggy could wind up with his job, achieving her oddly specific ambition in one neat move. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/73 "2015-04-22T02:55:12Z")
I wonder if Peggy would want it. Frankly, Los Angeles feels like Siberia on this show. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/74 "2015-04-22T04:17:41Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s probably pronounced “winer”, which is the German pronunciation (actually, “viner” would be more accurate). I know it’s pronounced like “winer”, it still made me laugh. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/75 "2015-04-22T05:23:37Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > Oh man, that was tedious. It was possibly the most painful scene of the entire series, watching Glenn and Betty’s conversation. It seemed to last for 20 minutes. The kid’s no actor, but I think it’s his dead-eyed stare that really kills it for me. I think you (and others) are missing the point: it’s \*supposed \*to be painfully tedious. The show is showing the painful tedium of a large swatch of real life. The part of life that Betty and Glenn own hook, line, and sinker. ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/76 "2015-04-22T13:51:39Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > Oh man, that was tedious. It was possibly the most painful scene of the entire series, watching Glenn and Betty’s conversation. It seemed to last for 20 minutes. The kid’s no actor, but I think it’s his dead-eyed stare that really kills it for me. Agreed. I have found that all scenes in Mad Men that involve children are cringe worthy. Every kid on Mad Men (IMHO) comes off as wooden. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/77 "2015-04-22T15:09:07Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > …I think it’s his dead-eyed stare that really kills it for me. I know eh. > [@sparky\_1](#): > > Every kid on Mad Men (IMHO) comes off as wooden. Well they certainly picked the creepiest looking actors to play Glenn and Gene. The twins who play Gene are the same kids who play Abel on “Sons of Anarchy”, who is IMO the creepiest little kid on television. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/78 "2015-04-22T16:21:57Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > Agreed. > > I have found that all scenes in Mad Men that involve children are cringe worthy. > > Every kid on Mad Men (IMHO) comes off as wooden. I agree and do not understand the big Sally fan club. Everyone raves about her as an actress and to me she’s just barely _meh_. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/79 "2015-04-22T18:56:39Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > I would be the first one to bash Don, but at no time did I see him playing along with the flirting. In fact he seemed to try to defuse it after Sally’s friend told him what her plans were, he turned his full attention to Sally to ask her what _her_ plans were. +1 ``` I'm ready to beat Don up as well, but I didn't see one look, comment or moment of body language that signified he was enjoying or encouraging her flirtations. He was in a no win situation. He could ignore it as he did, or call it out and look like an a-hole. He (correctly) chose the former. ``` ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080/80 "2015-04-22T19:22:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I agree and do not understand the big Sally fan club. Everyone raves about her as an actress and to me she’s just barely _meh_. Have you always felt that way? I’ve always liked her but think she was really weird / unappealing in the last ep. I’m wondering if we’re supposed to be sensing her mood change with the upheaval of the times? Or maybe she’s been infected by Mr. Weiner the Younger’s illness. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-10-the-forecast-open-spoilers/718080.md?page=5)