# Mad-Men: 7.14 "Person to Person", SERIES FINALE (open spoilers)

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**Created:** [May 17, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273 "2015-05-17T23:28:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/1 "2015-05-17T23:28:10Z")

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[QUOTE=AMC]  
The stories of Don Draper, his family and his co-workers at Sterling Cooper & Partners conclude.  
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It’s all come down to this, last episode of the series.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/2 "2015-05-18T00:28:19Z")

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I was worried about you! Glad you’re here with the final MM thread. Thank you for doing this every week so diligently. I’m going to miss these discussions.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/3 "2015-05-18T00:43:21Z")

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What time does it air in the US?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/4 "2015-05-18T01:29:15Z")

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Thanks ThelmaLou! 🙂 It’s been fun watching AMC’s marathon intermittently over the last few days. One thing I’ve noticed this that Don looks more or less the same as he did in the early days, but early Pete practically looks like the twink next door (which goes nicely with Peggy the teenybopper).

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/5 "2015-05-18T02:23:32Z")

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“A thing like that” Thanks Peggy. That was perfect for Pete.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/6 "2015-05-18T03:16:28Z")

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Man, did I hate that.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/7 "2015-05-18T03:17:14Z")

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Very satisfying.

And so it’s done.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/8 "2015-05-18T03:17:44Z")

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Gene spoke!!

Does that mean that Peggy came up with “I’d like to teach…”?

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/9 "2015-05-18T03:21:09Z")

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No. Peggy wasn’t working on Coke. And with “Holloway-Harris”, apparently she took Joan up on the partnership offer.

So what it means is that everyone thinking the Coke ad would be the crowning moment of _Mad Men_ were just about as right as you could be while still being utterly wrong about it.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/10 "2015-05-18T03:21:17Z")

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I’m not ready to click a button yet and preserve my opinion in SDMB stone but… I didn’t love it.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/11 "2015-05-18T03:21:59Z")

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So my first thought is “Damn”; Don’s fate is still up in the air. That didn’t feel like an ending. Does he go back for his kids or what? Don’t get me wrong I loved tonight’s episode, but the other principals got a resolution that Don didn’t. I liked where the others handed up (though I wish Peggy took Joan up on her offer). Holy crap that would’ve been a great spinoff.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/12 "2015-05-18T03:22:19Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> No. Peggy wasn’t working on Coke. And with “Holloway-Harris”, apparently she took Joan up on the partnership offer.

Peggy’s last name is Olson. Joan was using her maiden and married names to make the company sound “official” (with two names) since Peggy apparently declined.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/13 "2015-05-18T03:24:44Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> No. Peggy wasn’t working on Coke. And with “Holloway-Harris”, apparently she took Joan up on the partnership offer.

Joan’s maiden name was Holloway and her married name was Harris, so I think that Peggy didn’t take her up on the offer.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/14 "2015-05-18T03:25:30Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> No. Peggy wasn’t working on Coke. And with “Holloway-Harris”, apparently she took Joan up on the partnership offer.

No. It’s all Joan. Holloway was her last name before she married Dr. Harris. She said to Peggy that she needed two names. Both of them are hers. She is doing it on her own.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/15 "2015-05-18T03:25:47Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> So my first thought is “Damn”; Don’s fate is still up in the air. That didn’t feel like an ending. Does he go back for his kids or what? Don’t get me wrong I loved tonight’s episode, but the other principals got a resolution that Don didn’t.

I believe Don did get a resolution. I believe he found himself.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/16 "2015-05-18T03:27:50Z")

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The only part that had me squeeing was Peggy and Stan. I was glad Joan got her own business, and somewhat glad that Sugar Daddy didn’t want to stick around.

Betty is still smoking. I guess it doesn’t matter now. Peter and Trudy and Tammy fly off into the wild blue yonder.

But we leave Don in the lotus position going, “Ohm?” What kind of closure is that? Betty’s selfish wishes be damned, he should have been on the first flight home. So I guess ultimately, Don only cares about one person, Don. If you make it too difficult for him to care for you, he bails.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> That didn’t feel like an ending.

It didn’t feel like an _episode_. It felt like they had an outline, got partway through putting the flesh on the bones of a script, and then said _let’s skip our usual second pass_.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/18 "2015-05-18T03:28:40Z")

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Weiner was being very Weiner with that ending. He’s always had a habit of giving lines to minor characters to have them express what would become banal if one of the major characters said them out loud.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/19 "2015-05-18T03:29:23Z")

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I guessed EST as well, but I felt like a fade to black from Don’s look of serene bliss would have been a perfect ending.

Should we read anything into both Pete and Peggy apparently finding true love at the end?

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-7-14-person-to-person-series-finale-open-spoilers/720273/20 "2015-05-18T03:30:50Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> BTW, the retreat location looked like what I’d heard about the est seminars.

est was pretty regimented. That was something different. My mom and step-dad used to go to places like that in Topanga Canyon and only two or three years later. Some of them were more family style things that I went to as well. They nailed the feeling pretty well. One of the things they did was called Transactional Analysis (where, by the way, the term “warm fuzzy” originated. The opposite a “cold prickly” didn’t make it into pop culture).

I loved what they did with everyone except for Don. It’s great that everyone ended up happy and keeping in touch and networked with one another. Don finally gets it through 1970’s pop psychology. Meh.

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