# MAD MEN fans: Does Peggy Olsen (spoilers in poll and thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 31, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821 "2013-05-31T23:30:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/1 "2013-05-31T23:30:18Z")
I’m gonna provide some mouseover courtesy space, but if you open the thread you’ll be spoiled for the 25 May episode by the poll. Sorry, but it can’t be helped. . . . . . . . . . . Regular watchers will have noted that Peggy has just been dumped by her boyfriend Abe (for whom she was too good anyway but that’s another issue) after accidentally stabbing him in the gut and, tragically, not killing him. He dumped her on the way to the hospital, saying he wanted to be clear that he wasn’t doing so because of the stabbing but because she was a horrible person. Watching this, the first thing that came to mind was Peggy crying in her apartment when she realized that the cute boy she thought had a crush on was, in fact, mostly interested in doing her hair. Which brings us to the thread question. Does Peggy have bad LUCK with me, or bad TASTE in men? ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/2 "2013-06-01T00:09:03Z")
I feel like Pete and Duck were bad judgment. But I liked Abe at first, and was proud of her for choosing better. But then Abe turned into a moron and she still bought a house with him, which was incredibly stupid. I’ve done similar stupid things, but still. Stupid. So, I voted bad judgment, but I don’t think Abe was a part of that pattern at first. ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/3 "2013-06-01T00:15:38Z")
I’d say a bit of both. Abe wasn’t a terrible guy, they were just all wrong for each other. Ted Chaough would probably be a good match for her if he wasn’t married. And let’s not even talk about Duck or Pete. Like everyone else on this show, Peggy struggles with her identity and the kind of life she wants vs. what she thinks she’s supposed to want. She’s made some questionable choices in the romantic department but she’s hardly alone there. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/4 "2013-06-01T00:36:42Z")
She needs to find a guy who isn’t threatened by the fact that she works, wants to continue to work and actually makes really good money. Probably more money than most guys she might date. That’s going to be difficult in 1968. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/5 "2013-06-01T01:06:50Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > She needs to find a guy who isn’t threatened by the fact that she works, wants to continue to work and actually makes really good money. Probably more money than most guys she might date. That’s going to be difficult in 1968. This. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/6 "2013-06-01T02:16:15Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I feel like Pete and Duck were bad judgment. But I liked Abe at first, and was proud of her for choosing better. But then Abe turned into a moron and she still bought a house with him, which was incredibly stupid. I’ve done similar stupid things, but still. Stupid. > > So, I voted bad judgment, but I don’t think Abe was a part of that pattern at first. I don’t think Abe is on the deed. She bought the place and he was just along for the ride. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/7 "2013-06-01T02:33:13Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > She needs to find a guy who isn’t threatened by the fact that she works, wants to continue to work and actually makes really good money. Probably more money than most guys she might date. That’s going to be difficult in 1968. Bingo. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/8 "2013-06-01T13:13:09Z")
Neither. Peanuts thrived after Charles Schultz realized that each of his characters had to have a weak spot. Linus had his blanket, Lucy had a crush on Schroeder, and Charlie Brown could never win anything. Peggy is the best person on the show. She’s smart, capable, moral, and unlimited in her future. She’d be a Mary Sue without something to humanize her. Her men haven’t been bad choices when she made them; the writers just sour them at some later point. Abe was right. The Man is keeping her down. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/9 "2013-06-01T15:00:32Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > I don’t think Abe is on the deed. She bought the place and he was just along for the ride. Yeah, I realized that (since they aren’t married, would it even be possible back then to buy a place jointly? I was surprised she had as easy a time as she did by herself), but she didn’t want the place. She bought it for Abe. Now he’s gone off to get stabbed by a woman who understands him, and poor Pegs has to try and sell that dump. Stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/10 "2013-06-01T17:05:17Z")
Was it at all clear where Peggy’s building was? I’m wondering what it would be worth today. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/11 "2013-06-01T17:25:35Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > But then Abe turned into a moron and she still bought a house with him She bought the house on her own, not with him. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Was it at all clear where Peggy’s building was? I’m wondering what it would be worth today. I thought they said it was on the West Side, I’m guessing somewhere pretty far north, close to Columbia or Harlem. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/12 "2013-06-01T18:31:49Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Yeah, I realized that (since they aren’t married, would it even be possible back then to buy a place jointly? I was surprised she had as easy a time as she did by herself),… And even if they were married the bank would’ve only considered Abe’s income and ignored hers when they applied for the mortgage. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/13 "2013-06-01T19:07:45Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > She bought the house on her own, not with him. I addressed that 2 posts up and 2 1/2 hours ago. But thanks for playing. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/14 "2013-06-01T19:20:52Z")
If she becomes Ted’s “other woman” it will probably be her best advised affair to date. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/15 "2013-06-01T19:21:52Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I addressed that 2 posts up and 2 1/2 hours ago. But thanks for playing. Thanks for addressing an honest oversight in a very obnoxious manner. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/16 "2013-06-01T19:29:00Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > But thanks for playing. Holy cats, we can win these threads?! ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/17 "2013-06-01T20:30:45Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Thanks for addressing an honest oversight in a very obnoxious manner. I didn’t see it as an honest oversight. It read as obnoxious pedantry. But either way, you’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/18 "2013-06-01T20:48:01Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I didn’t see it as an honest oversight. It read as obnoxious pedantry. Pedantry would be if I had corrected your grammar, and I would have wine up to that. I was correcting a mistake of fact about the plot. But, hey, don’t they say that it is own own worst faults that we most often mistakenly see in others? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/19 "2013-06-01T21:41:51Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Pedantry would be if I had corrected your grammar, and I would have wine up to that. There’s your problem. Posting while drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mad-men-fans-does-peggy-olsen-spoilers-in-poll-and-thread/659821/20 "2013-06-01T21:48:07Z")
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