# Madonna tongue-kisses Britney....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 29, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317 "2003-08-29T00:02:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/101 "2003-08-30T14:58:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mr. Babbington \*  
> \*\*The only thing worse than being talked about is NOT being talked about.
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> -Oscar Wilde, I think. \*\*

]hijack[ His Majesty is like a great jam tart with cream on top.  
]end hijack[

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/102 "2003-08-30T15:12:01Z")

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I guess the Gap ads aren’t garnering enough publicity for the ol’ gal.

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**Author:** ![Hodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Hodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodge)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/103 "2003-08-30T16:07:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cartooniverse \*  
> \*\*Well. Please. In 1987, I worked on a little-known gem called [Mondo: New York](http://bizrate.lycos.com/,mpd__cat_id--5105,prod_id--2010999,rf--wgg.html). \*\*

The attention whores underwhelm me, but this little nugget is too cool. _Mondo New York_ was a real cult-favourite in my circle of friends back in the 80s. I think we rented it so much we wore the tape out. We even got a chance to see Lydia Lunch live when she came around to our neck of the woods.

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/104 "2003-08-30T19:53:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by teemingONE \*  
> \*\*Rosanne is that woman with the show, right?
> 
> Who’s Ellen? \*\*

Ellen Degeneres.

Comedian from the 80’s and 90’s. She came out on a sitcom starring herself. She also dated Anne Heche for a while.  
I happen to fall in the not so impressed crowd. I giggled when I heard about it. I saw a picture and thought, hmm…nope.

Of course it was staged. Look at the way they are standing. Following any good stage advice, they are both somehow facing the audience while kissing. That’s planned and contrived, not spur of the moment. And if you notice, their bodies aren’t touching at all.

As for B&C kissing, I tend to believe the press on this one a bit. I doubt they are friends. I don’t think that will be a kiss you will ever see.

And I thought Christina looked particularly bad, must have been the fake tan. Odd, as I generally favor her over Britney.

~J

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/105 "2003-08-30T23:01:48Z")

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Some resourceful soul has already made an [animated gif](http://members.triton.net/schelhaas/images/bm1.gif) of the “kiss.”

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**Author:** ![teemingONE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b4bc9f/32.png) [@teemingONE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teemingONE)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/106 "2003-08-31T01:28:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yosemitebabe \*  
> \*\*Some resourceful soul has already made an [animated gif](http://members.triton.net/schelhaas/images/bm1.gif) of the “kiss.” \*\*

What did you think the internet was for?

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/107 "2003-08-31T03:02:56Z")

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[http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/v/vma03\_thekiss/images/2.jpg](http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/v/vma03_thekiss/images/2.jpg)

Is it just me, or is Xina looking extra-nasty these days?

Who the Hell lets her out with hair like that? It looks like she washed it with glue.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/108 "2003-08-31T03:27:26Z")

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I think Homebrew has a point here. Straight women, especially attractive straight women, should not be allowed to kiss each other unless they have True Lesbianical Intent in doing so. That, or they have a note from a Certified Lesbian saying it’s OK.

Say … do ya spoze Christina and Britney kissed Madonna just for the TOASTER?? :eek:

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**Author:** ![corndog\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@corndog\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corndog_man)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/109 "2003-08-31T04:29:58Z")

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Oh well,

I would love to stick my tounge in Brittany too, but not in her mouth.

Maybe “Madonna” had the same idea.

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/110 "2003-08-31T06:00:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jinwicked \*  
> \*\*[http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/v/vma03\_thekiss/images/2.jpg](http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/v/vma03_thekiss/images/2.jpg)
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> Is it just me, or is Xina looking extra-nasty these days?
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> Who the Hell lets her out with hair like that? It looks like she washed it with glue. \*\*

It’s **not** just you…

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/111 "2003-08-31T06:59:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jinwicked \*  
> \*\*Who the Hell lets her out with hair like that? It looks like she washed it with glue. \*\*

Well, _some_ sticky fluid, at any rate.

“New! Aussie Mega-Jizz! with improved gangbang scent.”

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**Author:** ![Short\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Short\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Short_Guy)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/112 "2003-08-31T12:24:39Z")

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I finally saw it yesterday. Count me among the seriously unimpressed.

What did strike me was that Christina, while definitely not the world greatest living artist (by far), is a much, much better singer than Britney. And say what you will, I like her new look.

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**Author:** ![Anniee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@Anniee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anniee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/113 "2003-08-31T16:38:22Z")

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I just wonder didn’t anyone see the MTV Movie awards? I mean T.a.T.u. did it first and they did it better. They’re much younger. And a couple hundred teenage girls in underpants kissed each other at the end of the act. Now we’re supposed to be all excited about Madonna pulling an obvious ploy for attention when it’s so old already? Didn’t anyone see that a couple months ago? Or see the t.A.t.U. videos? They’re always groping each other. I dunno, it’s old-hat and she’s just cashing in on it; how could it be shocking when a couple hundred girls just did the same thing on the movie awards? Those Russian girls are famous too. Whatever, it’s been done.

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**Author:** ![Anniee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@Anniee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anniee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/114 "2003-08-31T16:40:41Z")

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Exactly, Evil Captor. Lena and Julia are actually lovers 😃

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/115 "2003-08-31T17:03:11Z")

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Okay, maybe it’s because I’m a heterosexual female, but I honestly didn’t think anything was “shocking” about it. I thought the whole performance was a bit uninteresting. I even commented to hubby that it was a boring opener, and hubby mocked what the preshow people had been saying…“You don’t want to miss this! See this opener! It’s incredible!” blah blah blah.

Not that we’re elitists or anything–we _did_ watch the MTV awards without shame. But the whole opening act was just uninspired; Cold Play’s soulful, understated performance was actually more interesting to me. It kinda felt rushed together, and that the kiss was a last minute, “What can we do that’s memorable…ah YES! Women kissing. That always works.” Considering all three of those chicks can dance, I was surprised the “coolest” move only involved their tongues.

Apparently it worked for a lot of folks. Well, to each their own. Just think of the kittens once in a while.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/116 "2003-09-01T22:13:18Z")

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So now the _Atlanta Journal-Constitution_ has been forced to repent its postage-sized picture of the “[latest and greatest reason to get TiVo](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=529&ncid=529&e=2&u=/ap/20030901/ap_en_tv/ajc_spears_kiss).”

Seems desperately sad to me, even in this day. Sure keeps our minds off of deficits, dead-end jobs and dead soldiers, so ROCK ON!!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/117 "2003-09-01T23:16:01Z")

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Yeha, the _Atlanta Journal and Constitution_ apologized for that pic, but not for their generally piss-poor reporting and cozy relationship with the economic big boys in Atlanta and Georgia, and the good-ol-boy network that made stories like the UGA athletic depts’ academic cheating scandal back inthe 80s have to be broken by, IIRC, the Macon Telegraph.

Does the phrase “fish wrapper” ring any bells?

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**Author:** ![sjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/118 "2003-09-01T23:34:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jaade \*
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> Of course it was staged. Look at the way they are standing. Following any good stage advice, they are both somehow facing the audience while kissing. That’s planned and contrived, not spur of the moment. And if you notice, their bodies aren’t touching at all.

I haven’t seen the footage, and I could believe that it was staged beforehand, but I don’t think that what you’ve said proves that it was staged.

It’s entirely true that they were both facing the audience and that their bodies weren’t touching (at least from the pictures in the links), and I agree that those tidbits hint at staging. However, all three women are very aware of staging and would have no trouble arranging it on the fly. They are all already trying to play to the camera, and if Madonna signaled her intentions well she they could easily have arranged it so that they had a good camera angle without planning it beforehand. (That and it’s the camera person’s job to get a good angle).

As for the lack of physical contact, it seems like a natural reaction when straight girls fake a kiss (or when anyone, regardless of their orientation, kisses someone who they aren’t actually interested in). I would think if they planned it ahead of time they would have done a better job by including more physical contact.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/119 "2003-09-01T23:56:06Z")

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I am shocked, _shocked!_…  
…that anyone could be shocked by such an obvious publicity stunt. Grow up, people.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madonna-tongue-kisses-britney/198317/120 "2003-09-02T00:20:33Z")

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Publicity stunt? You mean I bought all this Astro-Glide on false pretenses?

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