# MADopers, what should I know about Baltimore and Newark, DE? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 5, 2003, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064 "2003-12-05T01:25:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![av8rmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@av8rmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/av8rmike)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/21 "2003-12-05T13:56:23Z")
Speaking of Bawlmer Dopers, anyone seen **mhendo** recently? ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/22 "2003-12-05T14:09:53Z")
Hey, I’ve got a question about Delaware: How do they justify TWO tollbooths on I-95 when it only goes through about ten miles of the state? ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/23 "2003-12-05T14:17:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Krokodil \* > \*\*Hey, I’ve got a question about Delaware: How do they justify TWO tollbooths on I-95 when it only goes through about ten miles of the state? \*\* They gotta get you comin’ and goin’. I have often wondered the same thing. I haven’t heard from **mhendo** for awhile. Since the Michael Moore and Ann Coulter talks at Hopkins (think). ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/24 "2003-12-05T15:30:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Krokodil \* > \*\* > For Baltimore, it’s shipping. Baltimore’s shipping industry has been in decline for 30 years and no one can imagine a circumstance where that will turn around. Major importers have no particular advantage to using Baltimore anymore, and the entire city is in decline as a result. \*\* Ya know, your premise is correct, but your conclusion (underlined ) is wayyy off base-or at least out-dated. In 1980-absolutely. Now? Crime rates are down, disease is down, revitialization is on the increase and the city is a pretty nice place to be, having more successfully reinvented itself than any other rust belt city I can think of. I know that it looks odd when your basis for camparison is Alexandria, after all many of the buildings in Baltimore are more than 20 years old, they are not all duplicate tract houses and we let (\_gasp!_\) actual black people walk around the streets, but a “city in decline”? Tell ya what, why don’t you stay in Alexandria, we have enough idiots in this town with a plethora of opinions and a dearth of intelegence, we don’t need any more. ---
**Author:** ![Intaglio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/71e660/32.png) [@Intaglio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intaglio)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/25 "2003-12-05T16:48:23Z")
Delaware does exist, I would rather live in Delaware than anyother part of the region. There are lots of things to do, Shopping - No Sales Tax, Resturants - many varieties, Concerts - Music, Comedy, Museums, Movies, Broadway Caliber Shows, etc in Newark and Wilmington. Nice places to live and won’t break your wallet. The Univ. of DE is in Newark. You can take a day trip to Philly, Baltimore, and Wash, DE. The location is great, and it isn’t lacking in culture or things to do. I vote to live in DE, not Baltimore. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/26 "2003-12-05T17:15:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by av8rmike \* > \*\*Something else to know about Baltimore (and the entire D.C. area, by extension): > > When it snows, the entire population freaks out. Schools and businesses close for 2" of snow. News programs broadcast “snow emergencies” and pre-empt all other programming. They warn people to stay off the roads at all costs so the road crews can do their job. > > This, apparently, drives **Ginger** nuts. 😛 \*\* Ha! Dude, I’m from South Carolina. Here, when there’s even the report of a _chance_ of snow, the grocery stores are cleaned out of bread and water. Hell even if it does snow, it melts the next day. Who needs 3 loaves of bread and 10 gallons of water overnight? Thanks to all for your help. I’ll let you know how the trip goes. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/27 "2003-12-05T19:55:27Z")
I live in the City of Baltimore and I love it. I also think of it as “Neighborhoody”. I live in a part called Wyman Park, squeezed in between Hampden and Hopkins (the “main” campus, not the medical campus). The thing is, any neighborhood you live in, you can get to that medical center real easy, and you can even live down by it. It’s a part of town that’s somewhat risky, but definitely manageable. You got tons of choices . . . Charles Village (studenty but city-like, laid back) Mt Vernon (more metropolitan, somewhat gay, lots going on) Mt Royal (artsy) Hampden (traditionally redneck, but more and more hip) Remmington (still rednecky, but all right. I lived there for years) Roland Park (upscale, but livable, even for a student) Cantebury (upscale) Wyman Park (a cross between Hampden and Roland Park) Canton, Fells Point, and Federal Hill (all desirable but all crowded because of it) Don’t be daunted by the city. It’s very manageable. I actually find the burbs at least as crowded and more trafficky than the city. The only crime I’ve suffered was a car break-in. And that was because I had grown so accustomed to no crime that I didn’t even lock my car at night, seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/28 "2003-12-05T19:57:25Z")
I live in the City of Baltimore and I love it. I also think of it as “Neighborhoody”. I live in a part called Wyman Park, squeezed in between Hampden and Hopkins (the “main” campus, not the medical campus). The thing is, any neighborhood you live in, you can get to that medical center real easy, and you can even live down by it. It’s a part of town that’s somewhat risky, but definitely manageable. You got tons of choices . . . Charles Village (studenty but city-like, laid back) Mt Vernon (more metropolitan, somewhat gay, lots going on) Mt Royal (artsy) Hampden (traditionally redneck, but more and more hip) Remmington (still rednecky, but all right. I lived there for years) Roland Park (upscale, but livable, even for a student) Cantebury (upscale) Wyman Park (a cross between Hampden and Roland Park) Canton, Fells Point, and Federal Hill (all desirable but all crowded because of it) Don’t be daunted by the city. It’s very manageable. I actually find the burbs at least as crowded and more trafficky than the city. The only crime I’ve suffered was a car break-in. And that was because I had grown so accustomed to no crime that I didn’t even lock my car at night, seriously. Also, I’ve driven from Baltimore to Philly and points north a million times and I don’t recall ever passing through Delaware. Although I always find my EZ-PASS debited from somewhere between Maryland and New Jersey. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/29 "2003-12-05T21:28:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GingerOfTheNorth \* > \*\*CRAZY! IT DRIVES ME BATSHIT! > > For those of you that are unaware, the ‘of the North’ refers to > Canada’s Arctic. Yes, really. 62.5 degrees north. WHERE WE DON’T CLOSE SHIT FOR SNOW. EVER. \*\* You’re so right! Spending a winter working in Syracuse, NY and watching life continue without a blink despite 12" of snow showed how weak the lower latitudinal dwellers are. A double wide plow truck passed me on the New York State thruway, and I was doing 60. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064/30 "2003-12-06T21:42:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Weirddave \* > \*\*Ya know, your premise is correct, but your conclusion (underlined ) is wayyy off base-or at least out-dated. In 1980-absolutely. Now? Crime rates are down, disease is down, revitialization is on the increase and the city is a pretty nice place to be, having more successfully reinvented itself than any other rust belt city I can think of. I know that it looks odd when your basis for camparison is Alexandria, after all many of the buildings in Baltimore are more than 20 years old, they are not all duplicate tract houses and we let (\_gasp!_\) actual black people walk around the streets, but a “city in decline”? Tell ya what, why don’t you stay in Alexandria, we have enough idiots in this town with a plethora of opinions and a dearth of intelegence, we don’t need any more. \*\* My family is from Baltimore–My parents live there today-- and I worked there briefly in the 90s. I’m more familiar with the place than you suspect, certainly more familiar with Baltimore than anyone with your impressions is familiar with Alexandria (Much of which predates the republic, thank you, and the tract housing you describe is out your way in Columbia, if I’m not mistaken). If I’m wrong about Baltimore’s thriving, driving home industry, educate me. What replaced shipping as the driving force? O’s ticket scaplers? Pollution abatement in Dundalk? The Block? Anything? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/madopers-what-should-i-know-about-baltimore-and-newark-de/217064.md?page=1)