# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 28

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/541 "2014-02-19T22:24:15Z")

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**Vote ATPG**

It’s tacky to add another townie’s blood to your hands when you haven’t even had time to wash off the blood from the first one you killed.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/542 "2014-02-19T22:31:33Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> **Vote ATPG**
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> It’s tacky to add another townie’s blood to your hands when you haven’t even had time to wash off the blood from the first one you killed.

Aw snap! I have nothing else to add but I thought this was a cool line. I’ll catch up tonight after an improv show I’m excited to be attending.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/543 "2014-02-19T22:39:27Z")

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> [@TexCat](#):
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> Sorry to keep harping on about this, but I just can’t let these blatant misquotes go by without trying to correct them.
> 
> No! What I said was that Dizzy voted Sinjin for being too aggressive. But yes, I agree it’s an extremely poor reason for voting someone.

Okay, my mistake. I read it wrong. I’m sorry.  
But I’m still a little suspicious of you, so…what should I do? Not acting you literally, it’s more of a “What do you want me to say?” type of line.  
I mean, I can unvote you and just vote for AR today (as only one player can be lynched a Day anyway (as far as I know))…but you would still remain someone I’m just a bit suspicious of more than everyone else.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/544 "2014-02-19T22:51:40Z")

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Idle,  
I just want your vote to be for valid reasons. I disagree with your premise that Dizzy was lynched to save scum, but I can certainly agree to disagree.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/545 "2014-02-19T23:00:45Z")

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Okay.  
We can do that. I still think there’s a good chance she could have. You don’t really have a near 4-way tie (you, AR, Pleo, Dizzy) for a lynch and having the one who hangs come out Town without having one of the others be possible scum. I think it’s very likely there is scum somewhere in there, at least one…but I’ll focus on one vote at a time for now.

\*\*Unvote Texcat \*\*

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/546 "2014-02-19T23:08:25Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> **Vote ATPG**
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> It’s tacky to add another townie’s blood to your hands when you haven’t even had time to wash off the blood from the first one you killed.

Then I’ll just have to lynch you and even out the scoreboard.

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/547 "2014-02-19T23:32:28Z")

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The game is a foot! I am alive! The door is ajar!

**vote Chronos**

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/548 "2014-02-20T00:00:56Z")

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Any reason for that, **Daphne**?

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/549 "2014-02-20T00:18:15Z")

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**Night night…Go Town. Sorry I wasn’t around this week. Hell week.**

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/550 "2014-02-20T00:46:03Z")

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OK, now that I finally have some time and have caught up again, I don’t yet see anything to cause me to question my D1 votes. All of these, except possibly Mahaloth, are consistent with a Scum push to save their own by lynching Dizzy.

**Vote Mahaloth  
Vote Astral Rejection  
Vote Askthepizzaguy  
Vote Pleonast**

This is about as many votes as I want to have in place, so if I see anything more suspect from anyone else, I’ll probably drop one of these. As a reminder, the vote on Mahaloth was for his inconsistent and noncommittal attitude toward the clues; the votes on Pizza and for Astral were for getting the Daphne wagon rolling and jumping aboard it, respectively, without any good justification from either; and the vote on Pleonast was originally for lurking but then changed to be because of his uncharacteristic lack of claim and ignoring of major issues.

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/551 "2014-02-20T00:53:25Z")

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**Chronos** , my good sir, I think you know why.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/552 "2014-02-20T02:26:55Z")

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[quote=“Askthepizzaguy, post:540, topic:680752”]

Anything more than that, I’m not sure I’m following this??

**[color=blue]Vote Askthepizzaguy**

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/553 "2014-02-20T02:29:02Z")

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> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> **Chronos** , my good sir, I think you know why.

Is this supposed to be saying something like you, as Holmes, did some sort of Night power that revealed he’s scum of some sort?

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/554 "2014-02-20T02:33:05Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Okay, I read all of Dizzy. I have the same issue with her that I do with LightFoot & Pleonast: she doesn’t weigh in on any cases. Pop quiz: how scummy does Dizzy find me, one of the lynch leaders? We don’t know. How scummy does she find TexCat? Beats me.

Didn’t **Dizzy** vote for **sinjin** and **Texcat**?

She voted for **Texcat** , who was one of the top four potential lynchees, in post [343](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17111295&postcount=343)?

**Vote Astral Rejection**

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/555 "2014-02-20T02:47:08Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, so it turns out I do have some time today, but not much before the deadline, so I’ll keep this brief.
> 
> Town should never ignore any claim, since Town should always be looking for consistency or the lack thereof. If a person claims vanilla, but later claims something else, they’re a liar, and should be lynched. If someone claims vanilla, but is later caught by a Watcher or Tracker as taking an action, then they are a liar, and should be lynched. If someone claims a power role, but then are shown to somehow be inconsistent with that power role, then they are probably a liar, and should be lynched. Town needs all the information we can get, and claims are a huge amount of information, and thus should never be ignored.

i see you’re from the school of lynch all liars. there are several instances when it’s advantageous for town to lie. get out of the 1900s. 😉

> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> **Chronos** , my good sir, I think you know why.

aw, spill it.

* * *

i’ll continue my votes from yesterday.

\*\* Texcat \*\*  
\*\* Astral Rejection \*\*

i’m not seeing why \*\*Johnny Bravo \*\* would be killed by a vig. could he have killed by a scum with an extra kill who was in danger of being lynched?

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/556 "2014-02-20T03:01:11Z")

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> [@gnarlycharlie](#):
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> i’m not seeing why \*\*Johnny Bravo \*\* would be killed by a vig. could he have killed by a scum with an extra kill who was in danger of being lynched?

Why would that have needed to have been an extra kill? I don’t see any reason to believe that was anything other than the scum’s kill, unless you know something that I don’t?

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/557 "2014-02-20T03:08:14Z")

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> [@gnarlycharlie](#):
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> i’m not seeing why \*\*Johnny Bravo \*\* would be killed by a vig. could he have killed by a scum with an extra kill who was in danger of being lynched?

Catching up, but this immediately caught my eye. Gnarly, why do you think Johnny Bravo is NOT the regular scum kill?

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/558 "2014-02-20T03:17:24Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Catching up, but this immediately caught my eye. Gnarly, why do you think Johnny Bravo is NOT the regular scum kill?

catching up, eh? not like you were gone long.

i realize you are right. the lack of Night made me think that **Dizzy** was the NK. there goes my theory about the extra kill.

of course you being right doesn’t make you town. 😉

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/559 "2014-02-20T03:23:14Z")

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> [@gnarlycharlie](#):
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> catching up, eh? not like you were gone long.

All I hear from anyone any more is “Astral scum scum scum scum scum Astral scum scum scum scum…” I have feelings, you know! 😃

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/560 "2014-02-20T03:24:49Z")

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> [@gnarlycharlie](#):
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> i realize you are right. the lack of Night made me think that **Dizzy** was the NK. there goes my theory about the extra kill.

You mean Johnny Bravo, right? Surely you remember the lynching of Dizzy?

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