# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/641 "2014-02-21T18:18:15Z")
Heckuva typo. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/642 "2014-02-21T18:54:48Z")
If it makes folks feel better, I volunteer to come in second for the lynch. I’m vanilla, so not a lot of scum motivation to shift death to me. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/643 "2014-02-21T18:55:41Z")
what the hell ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/644 "2014-02-21T19:10:38Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Heckuva typo. I need to stop typing posts on my phone while trying to work. It makes for some odd brain farts. 😃 > [@Mahaloth](#): > > If it makes folks feel better, I volunteer to come in second for the lynch. I’m vanilla, so not a lot of scum motivation to shift death to me. No, we don’t need a body, we need a legitimate lynch that puts pressure on players. Are you just tired of playing? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/645 "2014-02-21T19:36:13Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I need to stop typing posts on my phone while trying to work. It makes for some odd brain farts. 😃 > > No, we don’t need a body, we need a legitimate lynch that puts pressure on players. Are you just tired of playing? No I’m not tired, but it get the sense people are at least partially clueless and some suspect me. I’m comfortable as vanilla to be the backup if people feel the need to have one. Or not, it is really up to the crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/646 "2014-02-21T19:44:27Z")
If you are vanilla, lynching you is a mislynch. Why would we want to do that? If you die, it should be via scum kill because they think you are a power role. The more times we can get scum to use their kill on VTs, the more the power roles can get results. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/647 "2014-02-21T20:16:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > No I’m not tired, but it get the sense people are at least partially clueless and some suspect me. I’m comfortable as vanilla to be the backup if people feel the need to have one. Or not, it is really up to the crowd. It really shouldn’t be, in the ideal situation the lynch choice would be between two scum, not a townie and a scum. Sure, some people suspect you, and if you’re town, that will still happen. But the scum need a certain number of townies to die for them to win, and a townie volunteering for town to waste a lynch on them doesn’t make any sense. This is not a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/648 "2014-02-21T20:23:43Z")
**Vote Chronos** ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/649 "2014-02-22T01:24:18Z")
**Mahaloth** , I don’t understand your unprovoked claim here either. I do think it might be useful to try to get some non- **Chronos** cases going. In retrospect, I probably should have held off a bit longer on saying anything. It is certain that **Chronos** visited **Johnny Bravo** , but I cannot say for certain that no one else did. I believe Chronos is 98% scum, but I want to find a backup lynch in case of scum manipulation who is more than 50% scum if possible, and Mahaloth isn’t that, at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/650 "2014-02-22T01:39:08Z")
> [@DaphneBlack](#): > > **Mahaloth** , I don’t understand your unprovoked claim here either. Here? I claimed yesterday. Fine, folks, I just thought we may need a backup lynch in case our lynch of Chronos doesn’t go through. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/651 "2014-02-22T01:42:03Z")
… what exactly leads you to believe it won’t go through? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/652 "2014-02-22T02:51:27Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I just won 10 bucks off myself. > [@TexCat](#): > > Ha! I bet myself $20. 😮 I don’t get these? > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I seriously don’t get this, though… so you think it’s dawn, and you never thought to yourself “huh, I wonder who was lynched?” > > I completely disagree. One in the hand is worth two in the bush, and all that. I don’t believe Chronos’ claim, and if he’s scum, he likely has a _real_ power that can be used against town. Assuming that’s true, if we delay his lynch, he can use it **twice,** as power usage is concurrent with the lynch. We currently have no evidence of a pro-town killer, and until we DO have evidence of such, I don’t believe we should be leaving anything in their theoretical hands. And, with no current counterclaim on DaphneBlack, I believe the simplest explanation is that Chronos killed Johnny Bravo. Chronos needs to die. > > Worst-case scenario, if we lynch Chronos and he’s town, we’ve mislynched a vanilla townie (which wouldn’t be the first time a town lynched a vanilla on Day 2), He’s claimed a power so he can’t be a vanilla townie? I don’t track this? > [@](#): > > cleared a townie that scum cannot use to hide behind, and tied their hands for the future, since they won’t want to let a confirmed townie live into the end game. Any time we can reduce the pool of unknowns, we need to do it. > > I strongly believe we need to vote to lynch Chronos, _and then continue playing._ We have a mock lynch for 2nd place, and people still develop cases and cast about suspicions. It won’t have the same impact as a real lynch would have, but it’s something, and I really think Chronos needs to die. If \*\* Chronos \*\* \* is Scum \* it won’t clear me with Town and I will likely be the next to die ( by either faction) That said----\*\* vote Chronos \*\* because he does sound like Scum and the cover for the visit is a very convenient manner to get Town to miss-lynch tomorrow. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > **Unvote LightFoot.** > > For obvious reasons. 😃 not really obvious to me can I buy a clue? \*\* Captain K \*\* did either of you happen to bread crumb this alliance? > [@DaphneBlack](#): > > You may have been the only two Masons, **Captain Klutz** , but I can add a little extra weight to your claim. > > I can confirm that **Captain Klutz** is Dr Watson, and town-aligned. Can you elaborate? You have been given a huge gimme point by your claim but I won’t dance willy nilly to your music. > [@TexCat](#): > > I’m pretty sure it’s too late “to make it contested between two players of unknown alignment.” That ship has sailed. > > I agree we need a second place candidate, just in case. And I plan on placing a second vote, but it will probably have to wait until the weekend. > > I don’t think I said that I didn’t want to use the voting record. Whatever happens Today, the voting record is going to be influenced by Daphne’s reveal of Chronos. We might as well get a dead scum out of it. The whole point of using the voting record should be to catch and _kill_ scum. At the time of this your post it was almost five entire 24 hour days until end of Day- how is all lost? > [@wevets](#): > > It really shouldn’t be, in the ideal situation the lynch choice would be between two scum, not a townie and a scum. ~snipped~ as long as Scum can vote the latter will nearly always out weigh the former- and Town v Town is generally more likely ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/653 "2014-02-22T03:44:06Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > … what exactly leads you to believe it won’t go through? I just want to say it is entirely possible at this point I’m suffering hallucinations. I swear that earlier today, we had some kind of info. that Chronos may survive his lynch and that we wanted a backup choice. I need to get some sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/654 "2014-02-22T04:06:57Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I don’t get these? > > He’s claimed a power so he can’t be a vanilla townie? I don’t track this? He claimed a one-shot power, which has been used. He is now a vanilla townie or a scum. > [@LightFoot](#): > > not really obvious to me can I buy a clue? Your fate, as far as I’m concerned, is tied to Chronos. If he turns out to be town, you’ve certainly town. If he turns out to be scum, I actually still lean more townie on you, because you already had vote pressure building on you. In my personal opinion, I find it more likely that a scum Chronos would make us play the WIFOM game with a townie, not a scum partner. This doesn’t exonerate you if he flips scum… It’s just a piece of evidence I’d weight more townie than scum. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/655 "2014-02-22T05:11:42Z")
My bad, **Maha** , I forgot you had claimed yesterday. I don’t really think we need to worry about a backup that much, but it is prudent. I just don’t understand why we shouldn’t try to scum-hunt for the backup position. Since everyone seems confused, I knew about Cap’n’s identity from my role PM. I guess there’s no real harm in quoting the relevant section now. > [@](#): > > SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE: > > Captain Klutz is your old friend and partner, Dr. John Watson, and definitely on your side. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/656 "2014-02-22T05:19:51Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > ~snipped~ as long as Scum can vote the latter will nearly always out weigh the former- and Town v Town is generally more likely Well, the idea being that if **Mahaloth** is town, then his offering himself up as a lynch contender vs. **Chronos** isn’t doing town any favors. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/657 "2014-02-22T05:45:07Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\* Captain K \*\* did either of you happen to bread crumb this alliance? I didn’t do any breadcrumbing. Also, we did not have our own board, so I don’t know **Johnny’s** clue. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/658 "2014-02-22T07:14:11Z")
There’s more heat on me than Mahaloth. Maha- I’m going to be lynched at some point so I don’t see why you’d volunteer to be a backup lynch. If for whatever reason town can’t lynch Chronos, I’m the obvious second place candidate. Regardless of how Chronos flips the lynch will \*still come after me later. \*So it’s better not to waste the day. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/659 "2014-02-22T11:39:16Z")
**Vote: Chronos** Scum other than Chronos? I do read and reread but have no suspicions other than the mildish ones for which I voted yesterDay. > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > I think Inner Stickler is not a townie. My reason is what I stated yesterday about the folks who had been voting for me, regarding the utter bull which is voting someone for the tempting reason of hypocrisy. > … I didn’t feel the need to elaborate further, since it’s a waste of my time. I do rely on your guidance, Askthepizzaguy, which is usually excellent when you’re Town, as I think you are this game. But I need more than this to add Inner Stickler to my suspect list. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/660 "2014-02-22T15:01:15Z")
I suppose there are only a few things left for me to say, then, before I am lynched. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752.md?page=34)