# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/841 "2014-03-05T13:45:49Z")
Sorry all, I’ve been ill recently. Posting before work. May be able to use phone during downtime there. Still comfortable with vote on pizza, especially as he tries to get another set of pressure/bandwagoning going again. Texcat was a poorly reasoned vote. I’ll admit that, especially as I didn’t see the same with astral. Not sure what I was thinking - need to play not alte at night or early in the morning. However, I have become more sure of it. Tex thinks a scummy diggit would have posted a clue that pegged a godfather yesterday, when we didn’t know chronos was the godfather, with a clue that would have possibly helped scum more than town. The fact that she says she would have posted the clue yesterday if she was scum trying to look town reeks of perfect information syndrome. Maybe it’s one Day hindsight, maybe she knew chronos was the godfather. The investigation of clues is a power that could easily belong ot a scum detective. I can easliy fluff Molly being on team M, but tha’ts irrelevant. Scum could very well benefit from clues that, byt word of mod, may hurt the team they belong to. A mechanism that gets them verbatim clues from the other side would seem to be useful, but not gamebreakingly so, in puzzling out the game state, especially when people say “my clue would help scum”. Additionally, I simply side with idle on the issue of who has the edited/correct clue - maybe because he’s strident about it, maybe because I was suspicious of her already. Both my votes stand at this time - I am ok with either being lynched, even if we’re at a tie right now (haven’t recounted votes) Dashed this off real fast before the door after the board ate my first one. Sorry about typos. Content is about the same. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/842 "2014-03-05T13:52:26Z")
VOTE COUNT \*\*Askthepizzaguy \*\*(5 votes) – Inner Stickler (731), Mahaloth (763), Silver Jan (775), Darth Sensitive (784), Astral Rejection (828) \*\*Texcat \*\*(5 votes) - Idle Thoughts (760), Mahaloth (763), gnarlycharly (764), Silver Jan (775), Darth Sensitive (784) **Astral Rejection** (4 votes) – Idle Thoughts (754), gnarlycharly (764), Diggitcamara (809), Askthepizzaguy (815) **Darth Sensitive** (4 votes) - gnarlycharly (764), Texcat (802), DaphneBlack (820), septimus (824) \*\*Septimus \*\*(2 votes) – Idle Thoughts (760), DaphneBlack (820) \*\*Mahaloth \*\*(2 votes) - Texcat (802), Askthepizzaguy (814) **Inner Stickler** (1 vote) - sinjin (788) \*\*gnarlycharly \*\*(1 vote) - DaphneBlack (741) **Idle Thoughts** (1 vote) - septimus (757) \*\*Pleonast \*\*(1 vote) - Mahaloth (763) **Silver Jan** (1 vote) - Texcat (802) \*\*Wevets \*\*(1 vote) - DaphneBlack (820) * * * Day Three ends in about three hours, at noon eastern today. Please get your actions for toDay in before that time (I have received almost none so far)! ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/843 "2014-03-05T14:52:17Z")
**Vote Darth Sensitive** > [@](#): > > Still comfortable with vote on pizza, especially as he tries to get another set of pressure/bandwagoning going again. Let’s get uncomfortable then! ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/844 "2014-03-05T14:55:40Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I don’t see a town player voting based on a behavior, then realizing they do that behavior too, and _then lampshaded that fact_ rather than reconsider their vote. I revel in my so called hypocrisy. I intentionally do actions that I find scummy in others. That’s just how pizza… ROLLS!!! ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/845 "2014-03-05T14:59:31Z")
Happy with either an Astral or Darth lynch. TexCat- meh. Feel free to snipe me, TexCat, I shall not be voting you. I have zero actions so I don’t care if you kill me to stay alive. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/846 "2014-03-05T15:07:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Askthepizzaguy (5 votes) – Inner Stickler (731),\*\* Mahaloth (763),\*\* \*\*Silver Jan (775), Darth Sensitive (784), \*\*Astral Rejection (828) > Texcat (5 votes) - Idle Thoughts (760), **Mahaloth (763),** gnarlycharly (764), **Silver Jan (775), Darth Sensitive (784)** > Astral Rejection (4 votes) – Idle Thoughts (754), gnarlycharly (764), Diggitcamara (809), Askthepizzaguy (815) > Darth Sensitive (4 votes) - gnarlycharly (764), Texcat (802), DaphneBlack (820), septimus (824) > Septimus (2 votes) – Idle Thoughts (760), DaphneBlack (820) > Mahaloth (2 votes) - Texcat (802), Askthepizzaguy (814) > Inner Stickler (1 vote) - sinjin (788) > gnarlycharly (1 vote) - DaphneBlack (741) > Idle Thoughts (1 vote) - septimus (757) > Pleonast (1 vote) - Mahaloth (763) > Silver Jan (1 vote) - Texcat (802) > Wevets (1 vote) - DaphneBlack (820) Mahaloth, Silver Jan, and Darth Sensitive have a nifty voting strategy going on. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/847 "2014-03-05T15:08:22Z")
I know you play this game on a totally hipper level but did you really just move the tied lynch vote from 2 people to 3? Really? ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/848 "2014-03-05T15:14:27Z")
Astral and I were leading lynch candidates yesterday. I’d hate to have him flip town because the conspiracy theorists would then be sure that I was the scum. Although I still don’t understand why if one of us was scum and the other town, that scum would need to bring Pleo and Dizzy into the lynch mix. I’m fairly certain because of this that Astral is town, just as I am. If Astral were scum, I’d probably have been lynched Yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/849 "2014-03-05T15:16:25Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I know you play this game on a totally hipper level but did you really just move the tied lynch vote from 2 people to 3? Really? Do you think it matters to me, particularly considering I am one of the tied parties and have no intention of voting TexCat? Feel free to be upset about the fact that I don’t want to lynch TexCat for whatever reason, but it has nothing to do with me thinking I’m hipper than you. Just keep on painting with that brush. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/850 "2014-03-05T15:41:33Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Mahaloth, Silver Jan, and Darth Sensitive have a nifty voting strategy going on. I hadn’t noticed until you pointed it out, yeah, scum would totally do that, I mean, they don’t have their own board do they? ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/851 "2014-03-05T15:46:32Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Astral and I were leading lynch candidates yesterday. I’d hate to have him flip town because the conspiracy theorists would then be sure that I was the scum. Although I still don’t understand why if one of us was scum and the other town, that scum would need to bring Pleo and Dizzy into the lynch mix. I’m fairly certain because of this that Astral is town, just as I am. If Astral were scum, I’d probably have been lynched Yesterday. I can’t say I completely agree with the reasoning given- voting in such a way as to make guessing motivations difficult is a major component of why scum vote for certain players. However, I’ll go along with a more interesting lineup for the end of the round. Someone besides the same three faces could generate better data. **Unvote Astral Rejection** Puts the focus on Darth Sensitive. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/852 "2014-03-05T16:02:12Z")
I’ve been re-reading Day 1 as most of the leading vote contenders were big players then, plus I have **Chronos** ’ posts and votes to consider. I didn’t like **Astral** ’s mid-Day 1 votes [then](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17111258&postcount=340), and I still don’t like them now. And I ran across this (which is addressed to **Daphne** after her claim) in my re-read: > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I really don’t think you did anything particularly wrong. In any mafia game, people are going to jump on you for any number of seemingly-specious reasons. I had a gut feel you were scum, and voted for it. It happens to all of us, and you just happened to be the target this time around. As I’ve previously said, I thought that **Astral** ’s vote for **Daphne** was extremely opportunistic. This post reads to me like **Astral** was feeling guilty about a vote that he knew was opportunistic. **Vote Astral** On preview, I see that I have reinstated the three-way tie. _sigh_ I see that **Idle** claims that **texcat** is lying about **Johnny** ’s clue. My first instinct is “lynch all liars”, but how would **texcat** know the wording of **Idle** ’s clue unless she has the power that she claims? Why could a hidden scum have that power? ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/853 "2014-03-05T16:07:07Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I hadn’t noticed until you pointed it out, yeah, scum would totally do that, I mean, they don’t have their own board do they? If a player’s vote is on two candidates tied for the lynch, it increases the odds that a townie gets lynched. The odds are low both candidates are scum. The odds are decent both candidates are townie. In the case one is scum and one is townie, the scum team knows which is which and will decide the tie in favor of their team, town has no such advantage. Voting for someone you suspect, while providing that same suspect an escape route from the noose, is nifty strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/854 "2014-03-05T16:10:01Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > On preview, I see that I have reinstated the three-way tie. _sigh_ By my count Astral still has one less vote than the top 3. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/855 "2014-03-05T16:24:09Z")
Sorry, everyone, I am still wiped out and have not been keeping up at all. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/856 "2014-03-05T16:52:22Z")
_nudge_ TexCat. It’s going to go to a tiebreaker. Do you want the round to end that way? You can save yourself by voting me, or… If you don’t, we’ll get to see what the tiebreaker looks like. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/857 "2014-03-05T16:54:31Z")
[**Theme music appropriate for this situation.**](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQGGQ-FCe_w) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/858 "2014-03-05T16:59:14Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > [**Theme music appropriate for this situation.**](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQGGQ-FCe_w) > > 😃 Which of you is which? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/859 "2014-03-05T16:59:16Z")
A townie is expected to take the opportunity to save his or her own life and remove a suspect that they cannot possibly know is innocent, as opposed to allowing a bad lynch. I guess I’m just not one for doing what’s expected of me. I never did like having who I choose to vote for dictated to me. I’m stubborn that way. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/860 "2014-03-05T16:59:16Z")
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