# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/981 "2014-03-09T03:50:16Z")

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I’ve been rereading and searching the thread, but have come to few conclusions. I have a few strong Town leans but have no strong Scum suspects. A weak suspect is

**Vote: Pleonast**

I have a hunch that among the recent front-runners other than TexCat (Pizza, Astral, Darth) _ **there is at least one Scum** _. There was some Scum-scum bussing going on. However I can’t figure out which of the three is Scum. If Pleo is Scum then, on Day 1 when Pleo jumped into the lead (perhaps as a result of Scum votes), Scum had a sudden need to join a bandwagon on Dizzy. However all three of these suspects joined that bandwagon.

Of the three, one seems slightly more suspicious to me.

**Vote: Darth Sensitive**

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/982 "2014-03-09T09:23:56Z")

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> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> **Pizza** , can I ask again, now that the dust has cleared slightly, what changed between day two and three that made you want to be scanned?

You’re still alive, I’m vanilla and the best thing I can do for town is either lynch a scumbag or eat a murder.

If I am scanned I can attack with absolute impunity, which is really the way I prefer to play the game anyway.

If I am silenced by the murder, all the better since it costs 1 vanilla townie. Could keep our powers alive longer.

If I’m not silenced I’m scanned innocent with two dead godfather scum. And then I get to lynch Astral and then we can wrap this game up.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/983 "2014-03-09T09:26:13Z")

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**Welcome to the game; you are Brian Donner**

ROLE TYPE: Vanilla  
ALIGNMENT: **Yours** (Town)  
WIN CONDITION: You win when all of Mine (Scum) have been eliminated.

\*Mr. Donner –

This is to invite you to attend an informal gathering at my home this Tuesday evening. I know what you’re thinking: why would he invite an ordinary carpenter to such a prestigious event?

Sincerely,

M\*  
POWERS:Regrettably, none. But maybe someone will need a shelf.----

CLUE: A man named Langdale Pike is in possession of false information that should be ignored.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/984 "2014-03-09T09:28:55Z")

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PS- I still believe I have the false clue and Langdale Pike has a true clue.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/985 "2014-03-09T09:44:36Z")

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> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> Even **Pizza** has gone quiet.

IRL = not happy times.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/986 "2014-03-10T01:40:37Z")

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> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> How many names?

Five.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/987 "2014-03-10T04:40:04Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Five.

You know who else has a list of scum? Yeah, scum.

Your reveal of your clue after all your pussy-footing around is ☹

> [@](#):
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> Does anyone have a clue that would be bad to post? I’m favoring posting all of our clues based on mine.

> [@](#):
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> Call me cray, but I’m tempted to just push that we go ahead and state all of our clues. It might not be the safest move, but I’m up for a bold move.

> [@](#):
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> If I am looking to die for sure I’ll share my clue, but for now I’ll keep it secret.

> [@](#):
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> Inner, you are mentioned in my clue.
> 
> I have reason to suspect Inner.
> 
> Vote Inner

> [@](#):
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> My clue lists names of potential scum and Inner’s is in the list. I am choosing to shoot in that pool. Sorry for the coyness. I am not revealing the other names at this point.

> [@](#):
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> Five.

Question 1: Why did you think your clue would not be bad to post? You supposedly have a list of 5 people who could be scum. You do not know how many if any are actually scum but thought it might be a good idea to post your clue and wanted everyone else to post their clues because what’s the harm? Are you really that “clueless”?

Question 2: Were either of the scum who have been lynched on your list?

Question 3: Were any of the folks on your list among the town who have died?

**vote Mahaloth** for the same reasons I voted you before, all the clue bs, and for more of the same.

**vote Inner Stickler** because you questioned Daphne after she outed the GF. This is a slightly shakier vote due to the back-up GF, but I still don’t like your play and I don’t like Mahaloth’s clue. Feels like a scum busing to me.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/988 "2014-03-10T04:57:41Z")

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I’ve questioned DB a lot. You might need to be more specific.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/989 "2014-03-10T06:18:48Z")

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Okay after weeks of hellish nonsense, I have a day off, then I work a day, then I have more than one day off.

Because of this change in my RL, I want to get more invested in this game.

I’m available to discuss our current situation and I’m online often and for long stretches of time.

My offer is to discuss any and all persons of interest with any and all living players who wish to, doesn’t matter if I suspect you or not.

Anything is better than what has passed for activity in the past couple days. Humor me and I’ll humor you.

Offer’s on the table, talk to me.

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/990 "2014-03-10T07:19:47Z")

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I am pretty stumped at this point, beyond my already stated but unsubstantiated suspicions. If the silent ones would contribute I would feel better about where we are.

I still think the name claim should go forward.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/991 "2014-03-10T07:22:39Z")

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> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> I am pretty stumped at this point, beyond my already stated but unsubstantiated suspicions. If the silent ones would contribute I would feel better about where we are.
> 
> I still think the name claim should go forward.

I have no objections to voting for any person who hasn’t posted in the last (random time increment, feel free to extend if you think this is inadequate) 3 real-life days on principle of being unhelpful.

Who among the talkers warrants attention?

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/992 "2014-03-10T12:23:56Z")

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catching up.

after a quick read:

> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> I assume they are worried about being caught murdering me, or a doctor protecting me and wasting a kill.
> 
> Or they are just being nice to me since I was so helpful to them, arguing against the lynch of Texcat… _sigh_
> 
> No clue why they would kill Silver Jan though.

i’m thinking it’s either she went after one of them but didn’t receive any support, they killed her because she likely wasn’t watched or scum just wants to screw with us.

> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> **gnarly** may be dealing with family stuff.

yes, i’ve basically dealt with the situation or perhaps it’s more accurate to say that the situation resolved itself albeit not in the way i had hoped.

* * *

some interesting posts in light of **Texcat** ’s flipping scum:

> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Just for fun, I’m going to go full-bore defense on TexCat, because the votes she’s getting are awful, and because the votes she’s getting are in spirit the same votes I’m getting. TexCat, you better not be scum, or this will not look good for me. 😃

> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> I will agree with you in that when a wagon starts at the beginning of the day and trundles inexorably to the end, it’s a sure bet scum are totally ok with it.  
> (we were out having a party without you.)

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i’m reconsidering **Astral** ’s scumminess. both he and \*\*Texcat \*\*had similar reasons for voting me but i don’t think two scum would do that.

was \*\*Rysto \*\*the difference in the voting? it just struck me as odd. i can’t say why. just a gut feel.

i’m not sure name claiming is okay. there seem to be clues that include names. they can lead to lynches of townies if the clues are false.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/993 "2014-03-10T15:35:46Z")

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I think we’re all fairly aware the clues are potentially false.

I sincerely doubt we’re going to lynch anyone based solely on a clue.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/994 "2014-03-10T15:55:21Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> I think we’re all fairly aware the clues are potentially false.
> 
> I sincerely doubt we’re going to lynch anyone based solely on a clue.

Still, that is the pool I choose to shoot into. No, no one lynched has had one of the names I have yet.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/995 "2014-03-10T15:59:43Z")

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And the players who have been NKed?

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/996 "2014-03-10T16:16:19Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Then let it be the fatal drop.
> 
> I need to get **wevets** , **Rysto** , **gnarlycharlie** , **septimus** , and \*\*DiggitCamara \*\*some more satisfaction after they’ve been hounding scumbags all game long, so they can enjoy full credit for being way, way up the scum team’s butt with a blowtorch pretty much the entire time.
> 
> Good sir scumbag, you have fought with valor and distinction. It makes me weep to see you die so suddenly after your honorable teammate fell in the mexican standoff. But those will be tears of sweet, sweet joy. Your agony is my sunshine. Your teardrops are the stars in my heaven. Your blood is the ocean upon which the ship of victory sails. Your final breaths are the wind beneath my wings.

Sorry about my absence for a few days (I haven’t been on the internets that much during that time).

But still, this post pings me big time as an attempt to get on the good side of a lot of posters for not very good reasons. So:

**Vote AskThePizzaGuy**

and for good measure, Mahaloth’s supposed clue strikes me as extremely in-plausible. A list of 5 possible scum players would be game-breaking if true, and therefore far too obviously a false clue. I don’t think **storyteller** goes around handing townie badges. Lynch all liars!

**Vote Mahaloth**

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/997 "2014-03-10T17:42:47Z")

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I think DiggitCamara may be right. There are several reasons to suspect Pizza. I think I’d let the “kinder gentler” Pizza lull me.

**Vote: AskthePizzaGuy**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/998 "2014-03-10T18:02:29Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> And the players who have been NKed?

None, unless I have missed it. Do we have a current dead list with revealed names on it?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/999 "2014-03-10T18:05:42Z")

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> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#):
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> Our dead:  
> **Chronos - James Moriarty: godfather (canon character - antagonist)  
> TexCat - Irene Adler: backup godfather (canon character - antagonist)  
> Johnny Bravo - Mary Watson: mason (canon character - protagonist)  
> Captain Klutz - John Watson: mason/doctor (canon character - protagonist)**  
> Dizzymrslizzy - Michael Westcott: vanilla town (non canon character)  
> Silver Jan - Harry Macklemore: vanilla town (non canon character)
> 
> Our other name claims:  
> Daphne Black - Sherlock Holmes: town watcher (?) (canon character - protagonist)  
> Idle Thoughts - Estelle Anderson: ???claimed VT??? (non canon character [but funnily enough, googling _Estelle Anderson sherlock_ has this board high on the hits])  
> Astral Rejection - Taryn Sharp : ??? (non canon character)  
> Inner Stickler - Holly Lang : ??? (non canon character)  
> Mahaloth - Liam Harrison : ??? (non canon character)

Post #945. That’s barely 50 posts ago. There’s skimming and then there’s just laziness.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1000 "2014-03-10T18:12:15Z")

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Here’s a way you can avoid a mislynch. Scan me tonight, Daphne.

Now you can do something productive today, Diggit and septimus.

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