# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1101 "2014-03-12T17:55:50Z")

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DAY FIVE

\*Another tie! Sadly, the Tie-Break-Inator is on the fritz. So, let’s lynch the person with the longest name. “Askthepizzaguy” = 14 letters. “Darth Sensitive” = 14 letters. Hmm. All right. Let’s lynch the one whose name spells “YUGA ZZIP” backwards.

**Askthepizzaguy** , also known as Brian Donner, a Town player (Vanilla) has been lynched.

But that’s not the best news. The best news is this: HI, SHERLOCK, AND WELCOME TO DEAD!

**DaphneBlack** , who was Sherlock Holmes, and obviously Town (Variously a Watcher, Tracker, Name Investigator, and Clue Investigator) has been slain

Finally, a bit of an announcement. There are many things I dislike: anchovies, puppies, and that wanker Yuga Zzip. But what I dislike MOST is a wallflower. Our various wallflowers are reminded that I have ready access to rifles and military-grade explosives, and should consider increasing their participation levels lest I decide to make more liberal use of same. THANKS FOR LISTENING!

Decompositionally,

M\*

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Day Five begins now, and will end at 12:00PM Eastern on Wednesday, March 19.

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1102 "2014-03-12T18:12:52Z")

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well, fuck. wait, am i allowed to say that on the Dope?

okay, to summarize why i voted to for **Darth** :

1. he voted for players who demonstrated that they went after scum like **Scathach** , **wevets** and **Rysto**. he also voted for me despite my pursuit of **Texcat**.

2. i was already suspicious of him since D1.

3. ask…

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1103 "2014-03-12T18:15:28Z")

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by the way, **Astral** , i should have been clearer about asking about the case on **Idle**. i saw your case. i wanted to see the other ones which made other players vote for him.

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1104 "2014-03-12T18:16:53Z")

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Town, avenge meeeeeeee!

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1105 "2014-03-12T18:33:02Z")

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Borrowing Rysto’s lovely counts and formatting.  
**Day 1 [Final](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17119781&postcount=525)**  
dizzymrslizzy – 8 votes - Silver Jan (309), septimus (395), DaphneBlack (449), Astral Rejection (473), Askthepizzaguy (490), Darth Sensitive (495), Texcat (506), Captain Klutz (512)  
Texcat – 5 votes - Scathach (290), septimus (310), Pleonast (431), dizzymrslizzy (343), gnarlycharlie (362)  
Astral Rejection – 5 votes - wevets (177), septimus (496), Chronos (237), Rysto (340), gnarlycharlie (407)  
Askthepizzaguy – 5 votes - sinjin (149), Chronos (237), Inner Stickler (364), Pleonast (415), Darth Sensitive (495)  
Pleonast – 4 votes - Chronos (371), Lightfoot (376), Mahaloth (384), Darth Sensitive (432)  
Mahaloth – 3 votes - Chronos (104), sinjin (149), Pleonast (474)  
Lightfoot – 3 votes - Astral Rejection (440), Pleonast (474), Johnny Bravo (517)  
septimus – 2 votes - Texcat (258), Idle Thoughts (303)  
Chronos – 2 votes - wevets (177), Pleonast (468)  
DiggitCamara – 2 votes - Johnny Bravo (291), DaphneBlack (308)  
Idle Thoughts (1) - septimus  
Darth Sensitive (1) – gnarlycharlie  
gnarlycharlie (1) - Darth Sensitive  
Inner Stickler (1) - wevets  
Johnny Bravo (1) - Lightfoot  
Silver Jan (1) - Captain Klutz  
sinjin (1) Dizzymrslizzy

**Day 3 [Final](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17165804&postcount=888)**  
Texcat (6 votes) - Idle Thoughts (760), Mahaloth (763), gnarlycharlie (764), Silver Jan (775), Darth Sensitive (784), Rysto (860)  
Askthepizzaguy (6 votes) – Inner Stickler (731), Mahaloth (763), Silver Jan (775), Darth Sensitive (784), Astral Rejection (828), Texcat (867)  
Darth Sensitive (5 votes) - gnarlycharlie (764), Texcat (802), DaphneBlack (820), septimus (824), Askthepizzaguy(843)  
Astral Rejection (4 votes) – Idle Thoughts (754), gnarlycharlie (764), Diggitcamara (809), Rysto (852)  
Septimus (2 votes) – Idle Thoughts (760), DaphneBlack (820)  
Mahaloth (2 votes) - Texcat (802), Askthepizzaguy (814)  
Inner Stickler (1 vote) - sinjin (788)  
gnarlycharlie (1 vote) - DaphneBlack (741)  
Idle Thoughts (1 vote) - septimus (757)  
Pleonast (1 vote) - Mahaloth (763)  
Silver Jan (1 vote) - Texcat (802)  
Wevets (1 vote) - DaphneBlack (820)  
Rysto (1 vote) - Texcat

**Day 4 Final**  
Askthepizzaguy (5 votes) - DiggitCamara (996), Inner Stickler (1079), Rysto (1068), Darth Sensitive (1073), Askthepizzaguy (1075)  
Darth Sensitive (5 votes) – DaphneBlack (899), Idle Thoughts (920), septimus (981), Lightfoot (1086), gnarlycharlie (1088)  
Idle Thoughts (4 votes) – Astral Rejection (1080), septimus (1033), Inner Stickler (1079), Lightfoot (1086)  
septimus (2 votes) – Daphne Black (899), Idle Thoughts (920)  
Inner Stickler (2 votes) – Mahaloth (939), sinjin (987)  
Pleonast (2 votes) – septimus (981), Darth Sensitive (1069)  
Mahaloth (2 votes) – sinjin (987), DiggitCamara (996)  
scathach (2 votes) – DiggitCamara (1036), Darth Sensitive (1067)  
wevets (2 votes) – DiggitCamara (1036), Darth Sensitive (1067)  
sinjin (1 vote) – Inner Stickler (1079)  
Astral Rejection (1 vote) – Idle Thoughts (1040)  
gnarlycharly (1 vote) – Darth Sensitive (1069)  
For the moment, the biggest thing that jumps out at me is Scathach’s place at the head of the line voting for Texcat on the first day and then completely dropping both the case and the game.

**Vote Scathach**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1106 "2014-03-12T18:43:40Z")

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I could support lynching Scathach, too. However, I still think Inner is the better choice.

**Vote Inner Stickler**

**Vote Scathach**

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1107 "2014-03-12T19:10:58Z")

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\*\*Chronos - James Moriarty: godfather  
TexCat - Irene Adler: backup godfather  
Johnny Bravo - Mary Watson: mason  
Captain Klutz - John Watson: mason/doctor  
Dizzymrslizzy - Michael Westcott: vanilla town  
Silver Jan - Harry Macklemore: vanilla town  
DaphneBlack - Sherlock Holmes: grab bag  
Askthepizzaguy - Brian Donner: vanilla town \*\*

Astral Rejection - 143  
Inner Stickler - 78  
Idle Thoughts - 70  
Mahaloth - 43  
Darth Sensitive - 36  
sinjin - 36  
septimus - 31  
Rysto - 29  
gnarlycharly - 26  
wevets - 22  
Pleonast - 21  
DiggitCamara - 20  
Lightfoot - 20  
Scathach - 16  
List of remaining players and their postcounts for this thread as of 14:09 CDT.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1108 "2014-03-13T00:55:30Z")

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I’m tempted to vote the inactive players, but want to focus Lynching energy on the True Scum:

**Vote: Astral Rejection**

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1109 "2014-03-13T02:00:14Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
>
> I’m tempted to vote the inactive players, but want to focus Lynching energy on the True Scum:
> 
> **Vote: Astral Rejection**

I’d ask if you found out something last Night, but then I remembered you made a vanilla claim, didn’t you?

In any case, we at least agree on this.

**Vote Astral Rejection**

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1110 "2014-03-13T02:02:12Z")

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As for the cases on Inner and Scathath, not sure I see what everyone else is seeing just yet.

Inner, maybe, a small amount…but Scathath has been mostly off my radar.  
Of course, those are probably the people I most need to worry about. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1111 "2014-03-13T21:27:18Z")

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The participation in this game is overwhelming.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1112 "2014-03-14T02:37:23Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
>
> Inner, maybe, a small amount…but Scathath has been mostly off my radar.

Other than the fact that his name is in my clue, what case do we have on Inner? I think we should lynch him, but am curious if there is more than my clue that makes you suspect him.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1113 "2014-03-14T02:37:40Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
>
> I’m tempted to vote the inactive players, but want to focus Lynching energy on the True Scum:
> 
> **Vote: Astral Rejection**

I don’t like this statement at all. Do you know that \*\*Astral \*\*is True Scum? Do you know that \*\*Scathach \*\*is not True Scum?

**vote septimus**

**vote Inner Stickler** for repeatedly trying to throw suspicion on Daphne’s claim, even after she outed the GF.

I will also be tempted to vote for those voting for \*\*Scathach \*\*even after \*\*Storyteller \*\*said at beginning of day that he would consider taking care of those who are not participating. This is a stupid, lame, lazy vote. Scathach has been AWOL for a long time, I am more worried that something has happened to them. Same goes for **Pleo**. If either are sandbagging, I will be disappointed.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1114 "2014-03-14T03:03:37Z")

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_Ghost comment: Ends all discussion regarding my obviously town alignment quite nicely, dunnit._

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1115 "2014-03-14T03:59:12Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> I don’t like this statement at all. Do you know that \*\*Astral \*\*is True Scum? Do you know that \*\*Scathach \*\*is not True Scum?

I had a very strong feeling that either Pizza or Astra was Scum. With the flip, we now know the Scum is Astral. (But writing “True Scum” capitalized was silly of me.)

I’ve just reviewed all posts by Astral up until the TexCat Lynch, as well as mentions of Astral by Chronos and TexCat, and votes against Astral. There were several good cases against Astral early in the game that I’d forgotten. I hope those who voted Astral earlier will review their early cases and vote him again. Those suspecting him include Daphne and Pizza; I hope their scum-hunting efforts were not in vain.

One tell is that Scum avoid talking about each other, except with incidental, neutral mentions. Looking at prior posts with that in mind, it doesn’t look good for Astral, though some of the evidence conflicts. I’ll list most of the mentions:  
[ul]  
[li] #237: Chronos votes Astral; Astral responds by laying his case against Daphne thicker and joking with Chronos.[/li]  
[li] #288: Astral mentions TexCat.[/li]  
[li] #305: Chronos snuggles TexCat and Astral slightly.[/li]  
[li] #445: Texcat mentions Astral, but no comment on case against him.[/li]  
[li] #467 [Astral]: “[from Pleonast] we get a vote for Texcat for an understandable if overstated reason. I personally wouldn’t toss a vote out for that, because TexCat is largely right.”[/li]  
[li] #550: Chronos votes Astral, saying “the votes on Pizza and for Astral were for getting the Daphne wagon rolling and jumping aboard it, respectively, without any good justification from either”[/li]  
[li] #577: Astral votes Chronos[/li]  
Astral slips, using the {s} tags he uses on the Scum board. This tip-off isn’t conclusive but one response is interesting:

[li] #587 [TexCat] “The masons may or may not have access to outside boards. Just another possibility.”[/li]  
Is the next a Freudian slip?  
[li] #639 [Astral]: “Exactly. The lynch needs to kill town.”[/li]  
[li] #795 [Astral]: “Just for fun, I’m going to go full-bore defense on TexCat, because the votes she’s getting are awful, and because the votes she’s getting are in spirit the same votes I’m getting. TexCat, you better not be scum, or this will not look good for me.”[/li]  
[li] #802 [TexCat]: “Astral is correct; these are easy, bandwagon votes, and I am certain that there is scum in there.[/li]… If either Astral or I were scum, there would have been no reason to start a third (or fourth) wagon on Dizzy and Pleo. That only makes sense if both of us are scum.”

[li] #804: Astral pleads for TexCat’s life[/li]  
[li] #815: Our excellent but deceased scumhunter Pizza thinks Astral is “White Knighting”[/li]  
[li] #848: Texcat discusses possibility both TexCat and Astral are scum.[/li][/ul]

Astral helped Lynch his Godfather, then snuggled his Backup Godfather. These facts do give me pause. But these are excellent players we’re up against, so don’t dissuade me.  
_ **I think Astral is Scum. Truly.** _

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1116 "2014-03-14T04:37:28Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
>
> **vote Inner Stickler** for repeatedly trying to throw suspicion on Daphne’s claim, even after she outed the GF.

:rolleyes:

Good to know that if I’m ever scum, all I need to do is bus the godfather and you won’t ever touch me.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1117 "2014-03-14T05:03:58Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
>
> One tell is that Scum avoid talking about each other, except with incidental, neutral mentions. Looking at prior posts with that in mind, it doesn’t look good for Astral, though some of the evidence conflicts. I’ll list most of the mentions:  
> [ul]  
> [li] #288: Astral mentions TexCat.[/li]  
> [li] #445: Texcat mentions Astral, but no comment on case against him.[/li][/ul]

To clarify: the point is not that Astral and TexCat mentioned each other\*\*\* but that they didn’t.\*\*\* Cases were being made against both of them, but they didn’t comment on each other’s cases one way or the other. Here are those very few “incidental, neutral mentions”. #288 and #445:

> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
>
> Yeah, I kinda agree. Texcat, it’s better if you choose one or the other. No gordian knot was ever resolved by burning the whole thing. You’re really casting no vote for either.
> 
> Which do you find scummier?

> [@TexCat](#):
>
> Dizzy’s entire contribution so far …  
> Not much to go on here. I really hate [Dizzy’s] vote for Sinjin for being aggressive, and note that she was bandwagoning Astral here.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1118 "2014-03-14T05:29:42Z")

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Here’s my latest colored voting chart. Analysis of stuff to come in subsequent posts.

[spoiler]Askthepizzaguy vf Darth Sensitive, 83  
Darth Sensitive vf Askthepizzaguy, [del]unvote Askthepizzaguy[/del] 100  
Chronos vf Mahaloth, 104  
Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Darth Sensitive,[/del] vf Darth Sensitive, 114  
sinjin vf Mahaloth, vf Askthepizzaguy, 149  
Askthepizzaguy vf sinjin, 151  
wevets vf Inner Stickler, vf Chronos, vf Idle Thoughts, vf Astral Rejection, 177  
septimus vf Idle Thoughts, 187  
**Johnny Bravo** vf Idle Thoughts, 189  
Astral Rejection vf Silver Jan, 190  
Askthepizzaguy vf Silver Jan, vf DaphneBlack, [del]unvote Darth Sensitive[/del], 211  
DaphneBlack vf Septimus, vf Silver Jan, 220  
Astral Rejection vf DaphneBlack, 223  
Inner Stickler vf DaphneBlack, 224  
DaphneBlack vf Astral Rejection, 225  
DiggitCamara vf DaphneBlack, 228  
Chronos vf Astral Rejection, vf Askthepizzaguy, 237  
Captain Klutz vf Silver Jan, 240  
Septimus [del]unvote Idle Thoughts,[/del] vf DaphneBlack, 252  
**Johnny Bravo** [del]unvote Idle Thoughts,[/del] 256  
TexCat vf Septimus, 258  
TexCat vf gnarlycharlie, 260  
**Dizzymrslizzy** vf sinjin, 274  
TexCat vf Scathach, 285  
Scathach vf TexCat, 290  
**Johnny Bravo** vf DaphneBlack, vf DiggitCamara, 291  
Darth Sensitive vf gnarlycharlie, vf Scathach, 296  
Idle Thoughts vf septimus, 303  
Astral Rejection [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] 204  
DaphneBlack vf DiggitCamara, 308  
Silver Jan vf **Dizzymrslizzy,** 309  
Septimus [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] vf TexCat, vf Idle Thoughts, 310  
**Johnny Bravo** [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] 313  
TexCat vf Silver Jan, 316  
Silver Jan vf TexCat, 318  
DaphneBlack vf Silver Jan, 321  
Rysto vf Astral Rejection, 340  
**Dizzymrslizzy** vf TexCat, 343  
DiggitCamara [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] 353  
gnarlycharlie vf TexCat, vf Darth Sensitive, 362  
Inner Stickler [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] vf Askthepizzaguy, 364  
TexCat [del]unvote gnarlycharlie, unvote Scathach, unvote Silver Jan,[/del] 368  
Silver Jan [del]unvote TexCat,[/del] 370  
Chronos vf Captain Klutz, vf Pleonast, 371  
LightFoot vf Pleonast, vf **Johnny Bravo** , 376  
Darth Sensitive [del]unvote Scathach,[/del] 377  
Chronos [del]unvote Captain Klutz,[/del] 382  
Mahaloth vf Pleonast, 384  
Askthepizzaguy vf DiggitCamara, 392  
septimus vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 395  
gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection, 407  
Pleonast vf Askthepizzaguy, 415  
Pleonast vf TexCat, 431  
Darth Sensitive vf Pleonast, 432  
Astral Rejection vf LightFoot, 440  
Astral Rejection [del]unvote Silver Jan,[/del] 442  
DaphneBlack [del]unvote septimus,[/del] vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 449  
Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] 454  
Askthepizzaguy vf Pleonast, 455  
Astral Rejection vf Pleonast, 467  
Pleonast vf Chronos, 468  
Astral Rejection vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 473  
Pleonast vf LightFoot, vf Mahaloth, 474  
Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Pleonast,[/del] 485  
DaphneBlack [del]unvote Astral Rejection,[/del] 487  
Askthepizzaguy unvote DiggitCamara, vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 490  
Darth Sensitive vf **dizzymrslizzy** , Askthepizzaguy, 495  
septimus vf Astral Rejection, 496  
TexCat vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 506  
Captain Klutz vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 512  
wevets [del]unvote Idle Thoughts,[/del] 515  
Astral Rejection [del]unvote Pleonast,[/del] 516  
Johnny Bravo vf LightFoot, 517

Day 1 ends, Day 2 Starts: 528  
**Dizzymrslizzy** , vanilla town, was lynched.  
**Johnny Bravo** , town Mason, was killed.

**DAY 2**

Idle Thoughts vf TexCat, vf Astral Rejection, 532  
Pleonast vf DiggitCamara, vf Idle Thoughts, vf TexCat, vf Chronos, [del]unvote Idle Thoughts,[/del] 535  
((Mahaloth [del]unvote Pleonast, 538[/del])) **(Please note this is from the previous day)**  
Askthepizzaguy vf Inner Stickler, 540  
Inner Stickler vf Askthepizzaguy, 541  
Idle Thoughts [del]unvote TexCat[/del], 545  
DaphneBlack vf Chronos, 547  
Chronos vf Mahaloth, vf Astral Rejection, vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Pleonast, 550  
wevets vf Askthepizzaguy, 552  
wevets vf Astral Rejection, 554  
gnarlycharlie vf TexCat, vf Astral Rejection, 555  
sinjin vf Mahaloth, vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Chronos, 568  
Astral Rejection vf Chronos, vf LightFoot, 577  
Pleonast unvote Chronos, 594  
Inner Stickler vf Chronos, 599  
TexCat vf Chronos, 602  
Pleonast vf Chronos, 605  
Astral Rejection [del]unvote LightFoot[/del], 613  
Darth Sensitive vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Chronos, 621  
DaphneBlack vf gnarlycharlie, 622  
sinjin [del]unvote Mahaloth, unvote Askthepizzaguy, unvote Chronos,[/del] vf Chronos, 624  
Askthepizzaguy vf Chronos, 628  
Mahaloth vf Chronos, 632  
DiggitCamara vf Chronos, 636  
DiggitCamara vf Askthepizzaguy, 637  
Idle Thoughts vf Chronos, 648  
LightFoot vf Chronos, 652  
septimus vf Chronos, 659  
TexCat vf Mahaloth, 663  
wevets vf Chronos, [del]unvote Askthepizzaguy, unvote Astral Rejection[/del], 666  
Captain Klutz vf Chronos, 667  
gnarlycharlie vf Chronos, 668  
Silver Jan vf Chronos, 683

Day 2 ends, Day 3 starts: 710  
Chronos, Scum Godfather, was lynched.  
Captain Klutz, town Mason/Doctor, was killed.

**DAY 3**

Askthepizzaguy vf Inner Stickler, vf sinjin, vf gnarlycharlie, 724  
Inner Stickler vf Askthepizzaguy, 731  
DaphneBlack vf gnarlycharlie, 741  
Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Inner Stickler, unvote sinjin,[/del] 742  
Idle Thoughts vf Astral Rejection, 754  
septimus vf TexCat, vf Idle Thoughts, 757  
Idle Thoughts vf Septimus, vf TexCat, 760  
Mahaloth vf TexCat, vf Askthepizzaguy, vf pleonast, 763  
gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection, vf TexCat, vf Darth Sensitive, 764  
Silver Jan vf TexCat, vf Askthepizzaguy, 775  
Darth Sensitive vf TexCat, vf Askthepizzaguy, 784  
sinjin vf Inner Stickler, 788  
TexCat vf septimus, vf Idle Thoughts, vf Mahaloth, vf gnarlycharlie, vf Silver Jan, vf Darth Sensitive, 802  
DiggitCamara vf Astral Rejection, 809  
Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote gnarlycharlie[/del], vf Mahaloth, 814  
Askthepizzaguy vf Astral Rejection, 815  
DaphneBlack vf septimus, vf Darth Sensitive, vf wevets, 820  
septimus [del]unvote TexCat[/del], vf Darth Sensitive, 824  
Astral Rejection vf Askthepizzaguy, 828  
TexCat [del]unvote Idle Thoughts, unvote Septimus, unvote gnarlycharlie[/del], 829  
Askthepizzaguy vf Darth Sensitive, 843  
Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Astral Rejection[/del], 851  
Rysto vf Astral Rejection, 852  
Rysto vf TexCat, 860

((TexCat vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Rysto, 867)) **after deadline**

Day 3 ends, Day 4 starts: 888  
**TexCat** , scum backup godfather, was lynched.  
**Silver Jan** , vanilla town, was killed.

**DAY 4**  
Askthepizzaguy vf Astral Rejection, 893  
DaphneBlack vf septimus, vf Darth Sensitive, 899  
Idle Thoughts vf septimus, vf Darth Sensitive, 920  
Mahaloth vf Inner Stickler, 939  
septimus vf Pleonast, vf Darth Sensitive, 981  
sinjin vf Mahaloth, vf Inner Stickler, 987  
DiggitCamara vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Mahaloth, 996  
septimus vf Askthepizzaguy, 997  
Astral Rejection vf sinjin, vf LightFoot, vf Darth Sensitive, 1024  
Astral Rejection vf Idle Thoughts, 1027  
septimus vf Idle Thoughts, 1033  
DiggitCamara vf Scathach, vf wevets, 1036  
Idle Thoughts vf Astral Rejection, 1040  
Darth Sensitive vf Rysto, vf Scathach, vf wevets, 1067  
Rysto vf Askthepizzaguy, 1068  
Darth Sensitive vf Pleonast, vf gnarlycharlie, 1069  
Darth Sensitive [del]unvote Rysto[/del], 1070  
Darth Sensitive vf Askthepizzaguy, 1073  
Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf Askthepizzaguy, 1075  
Septimus [del]unvote Askthepizzaguy[/del], 1077  
Inner Stickler vf Askthepizzaguy, vf sinjin, vf Idle Thoughts, 1079  
Astral Rejection [del]unvote sinjin, unvote LightFoot, unvote Darth Sensitive, unvote Idle Thoughts[/del], vf Idle Thoughts, 1080  
LightFoot vf Darth Sensitive, vf Idle Thoughts, 1086  
gnarlucharlie vf Darth Sensitive, 1088

Day 4 ends, Day 5 starts: 1101  
**Askthepizzaguy** , vanilla town, was lynched.  
**DaphneBlack** , town lots of roles, was killed.[/spoiler]

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1119 "2014-03-14T05:37:06Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
>
> With the flip, we now know the Scum is Astral. (But writing “True Scum” capitalized was silly of me.)

Well, no. You still just suspect it. But anyway, I feel your case was largely fair and well-reasoned (if wrong). I’m not gonna go line-by-line and address it, because I feel your casemaking comes from a townie-enough perspective.

I would like to comment on just two parts…

[quote]  
[li] #815: Our excellent but deceased scumhunter Pizza thinks Astral is “White Knighting”[/li][/quote]

Yes, he accused me of “White Knighting” _in a post where he himself admits to white knighting the same player._ I’m not sold on this being solid evidence of my scummery. 🙂

[quote]  
[li] #848: Texcat discusses possibility both TexCat and Astral are scum.[/li][/quote]

I think TexCat has a vested interest in seeing me get lynched if I’m town, don’t you? I wouldn’t use scum quotes about my scumminess as evidence, but that’s just me.

Anyway, fair enough case, I guess. If I had to guess, I’d say my lynch is a good bet for today, so I’ll spend it yelling about Idle Thought’s scumminess instead, in case you guys feel like listening to me after the lynch.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1120 "2014-03-14T05:46:54Z")

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I need sleep. Case making will come tomorrow instead.

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