# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1201 "2014-03-19T18:06:32Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> … what? I’m responding to gnarly’s question. If you click the arrow, you can see his question, and scrolling just a little above shows you the post he’s asking about. How can you possibly say this is about nothing? Did you really think my post was an utter non-sequitor?

Yeah, I’m aware of that. But your answer is false.

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> If idle wanted a player dead one day, and doesn’t care at all the next after that player was saved from the lynch, that’s suspicious, right?

This never happened. If it did, then you’d be able to show me where it was, right?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1202 "2014-03-19T18:13:16Z")

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He would and did. If you’re not going to pay attention to the thread, the rest of us are disinclined to spoonfeed it to you.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1203 "2014-03-19T18:14:57Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> He would and did. If you’re not going to pay attention to the thread, the rest of us are disinclined to spoonfeed it to you.

Is this in reply to me?

Don’t know why you’re being so snarky, but since he’s talking about something that\* I did, apparently\*, then I should know what I did and did not do in this game, thanks very much.  
He can’t show me where it is, because it never happened.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1204 "2014-03-19T18:18:52Z")

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Why don’t you go back a hundred posts and try reading the thread. Go over it two or three times and you may find your answer.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1205 "2014-03-19T18:20:09Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Why don’t you go back a hundred posts and try reading the thread. Go over it two or three times and you may find your answer.

I have and it’s not there…because it never happened.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1206 "2014-03-19T18:21:11Z")

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By the way, **Inner** , why are you climbing that far up Astral’s **ass**? Are you his public defender in this game?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1207 "2014-03-19T18:39:31Z")

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Willful obliviousness annoys me.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1208 "2014-03-19T18:40:39Z")

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It’s not willful obliviousness. I know what I have and have not done in this game.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1209 "2014-03-19T18:42:40Z")

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Now, for some reason, you’ve appointed yourself the mouthpiece for **Astral**. Why, I don’t know…you obviously have a huge vested interest in seeing he stays in this game, though, because you haven’t let him speak for himself for the last 5 posts.

I’m sure his fingers aren’t broken… so all you really come off as is a scum player trying his hardest to save the life of another scum player. Otherwise, why care so much? I’m sure he can defend himself just fine.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1210 "2014-03-19T18:49:36Z")

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Haven’t let him speak? Do you think I have him tied up in my basement? Astral is free to comment or not as he likes.

You, on the other hand are either ignoring or magically missing the extremely obvious post where he noted your vote for Darth Yesterday and completely ignoring Darth today. Did he do something in between to make you think he’s not scum? Have you learned something to that effect? Or, more likely, were you a scum player looking for an easy case? At any rate, the fact that you are pretending that Astral hasn’t pointed this out and that you didn’t do what we have on record you doing is both lame and disappointing.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1211 "2014-03-19T19:03:10Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Haven’t let him speak? Do you think I have him tied up in my basement? Astral is free to comment or not as he likes.

Weird…you wouldn’t think so what with how hard and strong you’ve been trying to snuggle up and defend him.

> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> You, on the other hand are either ignoring or magically missing the extremely obvious post where he noted your vote for Darth Yesterday and completely ignoring Darth today. Did he do something in between to make you think he’s not scum? Have you learned something to that effect? Or, more likely, were you a scum player looking for an easy case? At any rate, the fact that you are pretending that Astral hasn’t pointed this out and that you didn’t do what we have on record you doing is both lame and disappointing.

What’s lame and disappointing is how both you and **Astral** have tried to turn that around to make it seem like it’s something suspicious.

It’s called “I have players in the game who I have stronger suspicions of more than **Darth Sensitive** ”.

Am I still suspicious of **Darth**? Of course.  
Am I near certain **Astral** (and now, you) are scum? Yes.

Chance of being scum (in my opinion): **Astral Rejection, Inner Stickler** \> **Darth Sensitive**  
Especially after yesterDay with **Astral** ’s reasonings.

So to paint it like I’ve suddenly made a HUGE SWITCH in going from Darth to Astral (keep in mind, Astral is someone I’ve been suspicious of since Day one), is scummy it itself, because it’s misleading.  
But by all means, go on more about how **Astral** must be sooooo innocent. I’m almost starting to think he’s your alt account, you’re so invested in his well-being this game.

I maintain how he put it (his answer to **gnarly** ) is false. You are free to think what you wish on it.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1212 "2014-03-19T19:16:13Z")

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Multivote, dude. There’s no reason to not vote for people you think are scummy. Your defense of your voting and subsequent lack thereof gets worse and worse with every justification.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1213 "2014-03-19T19:24:15Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> What’s lame and disappointing is how both you and **Astral** have tried to turn that around to make it seem like it’s something suspicious.

Now you remember doing the thing you swore up and down you hadn’t done two minutes ago?

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1214 "2014-03-19T19:25:28Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> I’m sure his fingers aren’t broken… so all you really come off as is a scum player trying his hardest to save the life of another scum player. Otherwise, why care so much? I’m sure he can defend himself just fine.

I’m not in danger of lynch. Why would Inner do this?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1215 "2014-03-19T20:14:00Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Now you remember doing the thing you swore up and down you hadn’t done two minutes ago?

I didn’t do what you said/how you painted it.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1216 "2014-03-19T20:17:56Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> I’m not in danger of lynch. Why would Inner do this?

You had two votes while the leaders had three. I’d say that to be in danger…

…but if your point is that Inner did all that after the Day was officially over, I’d like to make the point that scum doesn’t have to be in danger of being lynched for their fellow scum to try to defend or save them from future lynches.

Scared, aren’t ya both? Scared and maybe even a bit bitter that I already have a good idea of who two more scum are in this game? I feel your and Inner’s desperation growing. Weak voting, trying to protect each other, reasons that either make no sense or that you’re trying to modify so that they look to be other than what they are.

You both know time is short for you both.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1217 "2014-03-19T20:22:48Z")

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I’m quaking in my boots.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1218 "2014-03-19T20:47:44Z")

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Story, can we have the lynch/kill results?

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1219 "2014-03-19T21:09:21Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Story, can we have the lynch/kill results?

\*\*No 🙂

I am going to extend the Day to allow for the feedback I’ve received to develop. Day will end officially at 9AM on Thursday (tomorrow) morning. This is an official Day extension, so voting is still allowed and actions can be submitted/changed until toMorrow.

Future Days will include a hammer mechanism to shorten the Day at will.

Other changes/adjustments will be described at end of Day.\*\*

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1220 "2014-03-19T21:22:08Z")

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Well, you know I’ll always love you but I’m not very pleased with that decision. Hold the game in abeyance until you are satisfied that people have had a chance to give their opinions, fine but it’s been on an unofficial pause and now you’re starting it back up again for 17ish hours?

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