# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1241 "2014-03-21T05:16:28Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I remembered him in the vote count though, which is what I, at least, really care about. > > Mahaloth claims to have five names that harbor at least one scum. If his clue is false than what he really has is 5 townies, which would actually be really helpful now that we’re down to 8 if we could match character names to players. > > **Vote sinjin** Really, OMGUS, at this point in the game, hahahahaha. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1242 "2014-03-21T05:23:08Z")
As opposed to your rationale which was if I recall correctly the fact that I don’t trust players til they’re mod-confirmed? Someone does indeed suck here. You’re either scum or scum’s wet dream and either way, at this point, I don’t really care what you have to say. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1243 "2014-03-21T05:45:25Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > As opposed to your rationale which was if I recall correctly the fact that I don’t trust players til they’re mod-confirmed? Someone does indeed suck here. You’re either scum or scum’s wet dream and either way, at this point, I don’t really care what you have to say. OO ouch my feelings are hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1244 "2014-03-21T05:58:36Z")
Thanks for the emotional update. Now, why don’t you start thinking about what you’re going to do when I’m dead Tomorrow, Town will _need_ to lynch scum or they _will_ lose and you’ll have nothing to show for the last three Days except repeated hounding of a townie. Don’t bother replying; it’s food for thought. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1245 "2014-03-21T11:48:55Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I remembered him in the vote count though, which is what I, at least, really care about. > > Mahaloth claims to have five names that harbor at least one scum. If his clue is false than what he really has is 5 townies, which would actually be really helpful now that we’re down to 8 if we could match character names to players. > > **Vote sinjin** Or the names are not in the game at all. The unmentioned ones, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1246 "2014-03-21T13:37:45Z")
Hey guys, I’m not missing, just unable to get into the Day just yet. I’ve got a fair few festivals and events I’ve been attending, but hopefully I can dive in this afternoon and tomorrow. Sorry for the general radio silence until then! ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1247 "2014-03-21T15:26:05Z")
I think that Scum have done an excellent job of hiding their tracks this game. Nothing stands out clearly in the vote record; Scum passed up opportunities to protect teammates. The four I find most suspicious right now are (in very rough order of suspicion): **Vote: DiggitCamara** **Vote: Inner Stickler** **Vote: Astral Rejection** **Vote: sinjin** Yes, I know that voting _all_ the Scum candidates has the same effect as voting _none_ of them. I will find time to re-review votes, posts and cases, but wanted to express my present sentiments. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1248 "2014-03-21T15:43:36Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I believe he’s using the rule of thumb that 25% of the total number of participants are scum. Myself, I prefer the square root of the total as a guesstimate, but to each their own. > > I do think with the sheer number of vanilla players we’ve found, 6 seems less likely to me now than 5 but it’s always better to err on the side of caution. > > If there are 2 scummers and we mislynch today, Day 7 will be LYLO. If there’s one scummer then Day 8 is LYLO. If there’s one scummer, I expect the scum’s one off will definitely be recruitment. didn’t we start with 22 players? whether it’s the 25% ir square root, 6 would be high. > [@septimus](#): > > I think that Scum have done an excellent job of hiding their tracks this game. Nothing stands out clearly in the vote record; Scum passed up opportunities to protect teammates. > > The four I find most suspicious right now are (in very rough order of suspicion): > > **Vote: DiggitCamara** > **Vote: Inner Stickler** > **Vote: Astral Rejection** > **Vote: sinjin** > > Yes, I know that voting _all_ the Scum candidates has the same effect as voting _none_ of them. I will find time to re-review votes, posts and cases, but wanted to express my present sentiments. uh, **Diggit** is gone. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1249 "2014-03-21T16:01:47Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > didn’t we start with 22 players? whether it’s the 25% ir square root, 6 would be high. It’s 5.5, and I always round up. That way, if the game ends one scum before I expected, I can be pleasantly surprised. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1250 "2014-03-21T16:48:58Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Thanks for the emotional update. Now, why don’t you start thinking about what you’re going to do when I’m dead Tomorrow, Town will _need_ to lynch scum or they _will_ lose and you’ll have nothing to show for the last three Days except repeated hounding of a townie. Don’t bother replying; it’s food for thought. Tomorrow I will be jumping up and down because we will have lynched scum, while you will be crying in your beer, CHEERS:cool: ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1251 "2014-03-21T18:34:03Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > uh, **Diggit** is gone. :smack: Not only am I shown up as a skimmer, but the Player I found most suspicious is the very one Scum most wanted to Kill. :smack: FWIW, I’m not fully skimming, nor am I Scum feigning ignorance. I am trying, but I’m more scatter-brained than usual. (My brain isn’t what it used to be … and maybe it never was. :rolleyes: ) I’ll assume Unvoting Diggit is unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1252 "2014-03-21T19:07:40Z")
> [@sinjin](#): > > Tomorrow I will be jumping up and down because we will have lynched scum, while you will be crying in your beer, CHEERS:cool: Why would I be crying if I have beer? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1253 "2014-03-21T20:23:21Z")
Septimus, I am not a scum candidate? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1254 "2014-03-21T20:46:43Z")
Note that sinjin apparently believes that Mahaloth is scum and also that Mahaloth is bussing, I guess? You really think at this point scum are going to off another teammate? Remember that according to sinjin-logic, if I’m scum and Mahaloth votes for me, he must be town. Day 4 Inner Stickler (2 votes) – Mahaloth (939), sinjin (987) Mahaloth (2 votes) – sinjin (987), DiggitCamara (996) Day 5 Inner Stickler (3): Mahaloth, sinjin, Idle Thoughts Mahaloth (3): Darth Sensitive, sinjin, Inner Stickler ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1255 "2014-03-21T21:18:08Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Note that sinjin apparently believes that Mahaloth is scum and also that Mahaloth is bussing, I guess? You really think at this point scum are going to off another teammate? Remember that according to sinjin-logic, if I’m scum and Mahaloth votes for me, he must be town. > Day 4 > Inner Stickler (2 votes) – Mahaloth (939), sinjin (987) > Mahaloth (2 votes) – sinjin (987), DiggitCamara (996) > Day 5 > Inner Stickler (3): Mahaloth, sinjin, Idle Thoughts > Mahaloth (3): Darth Sensitive, sinjin, Inner Stickler I am voting for the two I think are most scummy. We get to vote for more than one person in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1256 "2014-03-21T21:25:20Z")
No shit, really? The multivoting is not why I think you’re more full of crap than Sarah Palin at a debate. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1257 "2014-03-22T00:05:42Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > … more full of crap than Sarah Palin at a debate. Hey, let’s not say things we can’t take back. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1258 "2014-03-22T10:07:10Z")
My guess is we were down to 1 Scum after the ModKills, but that Scum may be able to recruit another. I’m going to rescind my illegal vote and a bad vote to focus on **Astral** and **Inner Stickler** , _especially **Stickler** _. **Unvote: DiggitCamara** **Unvote: sinjin** Stickler’s voting his two competing two Lynch candidates – after strongly criticising last-minute tie-making votes in previous Days, was especially Scummy. Also he’s not helped in our Scum Lynches, though his continued votes of Pizza helped Scum. **But most importantly, the theory that Scum don’t talk about each other points very strongly** : Our dead Scum never mentioned Stickler (except for Pleo’s brief mention in #594), and Stickler almost never mentioned them. (If my search is correct, he _never_ mentioned TexCat while she was alive. His only mention of Chronos was a brief unargued vote _after_ Daphne’s implied reveal – although he later voted Pizza for joining the Chronos wagon late.) I’m so confident that I’ll unvote my #2 candidate. **Unvote: Astral Rejection** > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Septimus, I am not a scum candidate? Thanks! I admit this game had me flummoxed, but I now think it’s at least 65% Inner is the Scum. I’m still suspicious of the rest of y’all! I won’t mention the one very strong Town lean I have, lest it be a jinx. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1259 "2014-03-22T12:51:02Z")
Again, I suggest we just lynch Inner and hammer it to get things moving. It’s dragging gout long enough already! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1260 "2014-03-23T13:13:37Z")
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