# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1261 "2014-03-23T17:02:17Z")
Latest vote chart: [spoiler]Askthepizzaguy vf Darth Sensitive, 83 Darth Sensitive vf Askthepizzaguy, [del]unvote Askthepizzaguy[/del] 100 Chronos vf Mahaloth, 104 Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Darth Sensitive,[/del] vf Darth Sensitive, 114 sinjin vf Mahaloth, vf Askthepizzaguy, 149 Askthepizzaguy vf sinjin, 151 wevets vf Inner Stickler, vf Chronos, vf Idle Thoughts, vf Astral Rejection, 177 septimus vf Idle Thoughts, 187 **Johnny Bravo** vf Idle Thoughts, 189 Astral Rejection vf Silver Jan, 190 Askthepizzaguy vf Silver Jan, vf DaphneBlack, [del]unvote Darth Sensitive[/del], 211 DaphneBlack vf Septimus, vf Silver Jan, 220 Astral Rejection vf DaphneBlack, 223 Inner Stickler vf DaphneBlack, 224 DaphneBlack vf Astral Rejection, 225 DiggitCamara vf DaphneBlack, 228 Chronos vf Astral Rejection, vf Askthepizzaguy, 237 Captain Klutz vf Silver Jan, 240 Septimus [del]unvote Idle Thoughts,[/del] vf DaphneBlack, 252 **Johnny Bravo** [del]unvote Idle Thoughts,[/del] 256 TexCat vf Septimus, 258 TexCat vf gnarlycharlie, 260 **Dizzymrslizzy** vf sinjin, 274 TexCat vf Scathach, 285 Scathach vf TexCat, 290 **Johnny Bravo** vf DaphneBlack, vf DiggitCamara, 291 Darth Sensitive vf gnarlycharlie, vf Scathach, 296 Idle Thoughts vf septimus, 303 Astral Rejection [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] 204 DaphneBlack vf DiggitCamara, 308 Silver Jan vf **Dizzymrslizzy,** 309 Septimus [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] vf TexCat, vf Idle Thoughts, 310 **Johnny Bravo** [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] 313 TexCat vf Silver Jan, 316 Silver Jan vf TexCat, 318 DaphneBlack vf Silver Jan, 321 Rysto vf Astral Rejection, 340 **Dizzymrslizzy** vf TexCat, 343 DiggitCamara [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] 353 gnarlycharlie vf TexCat, vf Darth Sensitive, 362 Inner Stickler [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] vf Askthepizzaguy, 364 TexCat [del]unvote gnarlycharlie, unvote Scathach, unvote Silver Jan,[/del] 368 Silver Jan [del]unvote TexCat,[/del] 370 Chronos vf Captain Klutz, vf Pleonast, 371 LightFoot vf Pleonast, vf **Johnny Bravo** , 376 Darth Sensitive [del]unvote Scathach,[/del] 377 Chronos [del]unvote Captain Klutz,[/del] 382 Mahaloth vf Pleonast, 384 Askthepizzaguy vf DiggitCamara, 392 septimus vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 395 gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection, 407 Pleonast vf Askthepizzaguy, 415 Pleonast vf TexCat, 431 Darth Sensitive vf Pleonast, 432 Astral Rejection vf LightFoot, 440 Astral Rejection [del]unvote Silver Jan,[/del] 442 DaphneBlack [del]unvote septimus,[/del] vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 449 Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote DaphneBlack,[/del] 454 Askthepizzaguy vf Pleonast, 455 Astral Rejection vf Pleonast, 467 Pleonast vf Chronos, 468 Astral Rejection vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 473 Pleonast vf LightFoot, vf Mahaloth, 474 Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Pleonast,[/del] 485 DaphneBlack [del]unvote Astral Rejection,[/del] 487 Askthepizzaguy unvote DiggitCamara, vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 490 Darth Sensitive vf **dizzymrslizzy** , Askthepizzaguy, 495 septimus vf Astral Rejection, 496 TexCat vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 506 Captain Klutz vf **Dizzymrslizzy** , 512 wevets [del]unvote Idle Thoughts,[/del] 515 Astral Rejection [del]unvote Pleonast,[/del] 516 Johnny Bravo vf LightFoot, 517 Day 1 ends, Day 2 Starts: 528 **Dizzymrslizzy** , vanilla town, was lynched. **Johnny Bravo** , town Mason, was killed. **DAY 2** Idle Thoughts vf TexCat, vf Astral Rejection, 532 Pleonast vf DiggitCamara, vf Idle Thoughts, vf TexCat, vf Chronos, [del]unvote Idle Thoughts,[/del] 535 ((Mahaloth [del]unvote Pleonast, 538[/del])) **(Please note this is from the previous day)** Askthepizzaguy vf Inner Stickler, 540 Inner Stickler vf Askthepizzaguy, 541 Idle Thoughts [del]unvote TexCat[/del], 545 DaphneBlack vf Chronos, 547 Chronos vf Mahaloth, vf Astral Rejection, vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Pleonast, 550 wevets vf Askthepizzaguy, 552 wevets vf Astral Rejection, 554 gnarlycharlie vf TexCat, vf Astral Rejection, 555 sinjin vf Mahaloth, vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Chronos, 568 Astral Rejection vf Chronos, vf LightFoot, 577 Pleonast [del]unvote Chronos,[/del] 594 Inner Stickler vf Chronos, 599 TexCat vf Chronos, 602 Pleonast vf Chronos, 605 Astral Rejection [del]unvote LightFoot[/del], 613 Darth Sensitive vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Chronos, 621 DaphneBlack vf gnarlycharlie, 622 sinjin [del]unvote Mahaloth, unvote Askthepizzaguy, unvote Chronos,[/del] vf Chronos, 624 Askthepizzaguy vf Chronos, 628 Mahaloth vf Chronos, 632 DiggitCamara vf Chronos, 636 DiggitCamara vf Askthepizzaguy, 637 Idle Thoughts vf Chronos, 648 LightFoot vf Chronos, 652 septimus vf Chronos, 659 TexCat vf Mahaloth, 663 wevets vf Chronos, [del]unvote Askthepizzaguy, unvote Astral Rejection[/del], 666 Captain Klutz vf Chronos, 667 gnarlycharlie vf Chronos, 668 Silver Jan vf Chronos, 683 Day 2 ends, Day 3 starts: 710 Chronos, Scum Godfather, was lynched. Captain Klutz, town Mason/Doctor, was killed. **DAY 3** Askthepizzaguy vf Inner Stickler, vf sinjin, vf gnarlycharlie, 724 Inner Stickler vf Askthepizzaguy, 731 DaphneBlack vf gnarlycharlie, 741 Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Inner Stickler, unvote sinjin,[/del] 742 Idle Thoughts vf Astral Rejection, 754 septimus vf TexCat, vf Idle Thoughts, 757 Idle Thoughts vf Septimus, vf TexCat, 760 Mahaloth vf TexCat, vf Askthepizzaguy, vf pleonast, 763 gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection, vf TexCat, vf Darth Sensitive, 764 Silver Jan vf TexCat, vf Askthepizzaguy, 775 Darth Sensitive vf TexCat, vf Askthepizzaguy, 784 sinjin vf Inner Stickler, 788 TexCat vf septimus, vf Idle Thoughts, vf Mahaloth, vf gnarlycharlie, vf Silver Jan, vf Darth Sensitive, 802 DiggitCamara vf Astral Rejection, 809 Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote gnarlycharlie[/del], vf Mahaloth, 814 Askthepizzaguy vf Astral Rejection, 815 DaphneBlack vf septimus, vf Darth Sensitive, vf wevets, 820 septimus [del]unvote TexCat[/del], vf Darth Sensitive, 824 Astral Rejection vf Askthepizzaguy, 828 TexCat [del]unvote Idle Thoughts, unvote septimus, unvote gnarlycharlie[/del], 829 Askthepizzaguy vf Darth Sensitive, 843 Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Astral Rejection[/del], 851 Rysto vf Astral Rejection, 852 Rysto vf TexCat, 860 ((TexCat vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Rysto, 867)) **after deadline** Day 3 ends, Day 4 starts: 888 **TexCat** , scum backup godfather, was lynched. **Silver Jan** , vanilla town, was killed. **DAY 4** Askthepizzaguy vf Astral Rejection, 893 DaphneBlack vf septimus, vf Darth Sensitive, 899 Idle Thoughts vf septimus, vf Darth Sensitive, 920 Mahaloth vf Inner Stickler, 939 septimus vf Pleonast, vf Darth Sensitive, 981 sinjin vf Mahaloth, vf Inner Stickler, 987 DiggitCamara vf Askthepizzaguy, vf Mahaloth, 996 septimus vf Askthepizzaguy, 997 Astral Rejection vf sinjin, vf LightFoot, vf Darth Sensitive, 1024 Astral Rejection vf Idle Thoughts, 1027 septimus vf Idle Thoughts, 1033 DiggitCamara vf Scathach, vf wevets, 1036 Idle Thoughts vf Astral Rejection, 1040 Darth Sensitive vf Rysto, vf Scathach, vf wevets, 1067 Rysto vf Askthepizzaguy, 1068 Darth Sensitive vf Pleonast, vf gnarlycharlie, 1069 Darth Sensitive [del]unvote Rysto[/del], 1070 Darth Sensitive vf Askthepizzaguy, 1073 Askthepizzaguy [del]unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf Askthepizzaguy, 1075 Septimus [del]unvote Askthepizzaguy[/del], 1077 Inner Stickler vf Askthepizzaguy, vf sinjin, vf Idle Thoughts, 1079 Astral Rejection [del]unvote sinjin, unvote LightFoot, unvote Darth Sensitive, unvote Idle Thoughts[/del], vf Idle Thoughts, 1080 LightFoot vf Darth Sensitive, vf Idle Thoughts, 1086 gnarlycharlie vf Darth Sensitive, 1088 Day 4 ends, Day 5 starts: 1101 **Askthepizzaguy** , vanilla town, was lynched. **DaphneBlack** , town lots of roles, was killed. Inner Stickler vf Scathach, 1105 Mahaloth vf Inner Stickler, vf Scathach, 1106 septimus vf Astral Rejection, 1108 Idle Thoughts vf Astral Rejection, 1109 sinjin vf septimus, vf Inner Stickler, 1113 DiggitCamara vf Idle Thoughts, vf gnarlycharlie, 1127 DiggitCamara vf septimus, 1133 Darth Sensitive vf gnarlycharlie, 1134 Astral Rejection vf Idle Thoughts, 1135 Astral Rejection vf Mahaloth, 1136 Darth Sensitive vf Mahaloth, 1145 sinjin vf Mahaloth, 1146 Astral Rejection [del]unvote Mahaloth[/del], 1148 gnarlycharlie vf Darth Sensitive, 1153 Septimus vf Darth Sensitive, vf sinjin, vf wevets, 1156 Inner Stickler vf Idle Thoughts, 1158 Idle Thoughts vf Inner Stickler, 1160 Inner Stickler vf Mahaloth, 1184 Day 5 ends, Day 6 begins: 1227 **Idle Thoughts** , vanilla town, was lynched. **DiggitCamara** , vanilla town, was killed. **color=blue]Scathach**[/color], vanilla town, was mod-killed. **color=blue]LightFoot**[/color], vanilla town, was mod-killed. **color=red]wevets**[/color], scum doctor avoiderer, was mod-killed. **color=red]Pleonast**[/color], scum poisoner, was mod-killed.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1262 "2014-03-23T17:07:11Z")
For fun, I thought I’d take a look at how many times the unknowns have voted for each other. Click the spoiler for the full chart, or skip below it to the results. [spoiler]sinjin 1 - mahaloth 149 sinjin vf Inner Stickler, 788 sinjin vf Mahaloth, vf Inner Stickler, 987 sinjin vf septimus, vf Inner Stickler, 1113 sinjin vf Mahaloth, 1146 Darth Sensitive vf gnarlycharlie, 296 Darth Sensitive vf Rysto, 1067 Darth Sensitive vf gnarlycharlie, 1069 Darth Sensitive vf gnarlycharlie, 1134 Rysto vf Astral Rejection, 340 Rysto vf Astral Rejection, 852 gnarlycharlie vf TexCat, vf Darth Sensitive, 362 gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection, 407 gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection, 555 gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection, vf Darth Sensitive, 764 gnarlycharlie vf Darth Sensitive, 1088 gnarlycharlie vf Darth Sensitive, 1153 septimus vf Astral Rejection, 496 septimus vf Darth Sensitive, 824 septimus vf Darth Sensitive, 981 septimus vf Astral Rejection, 1108 Septimus vf Darth Sensitive, vf sinjin, 1156 Mahaloth vf Inner Stickler, 939 Mahaloth vf Inner Stickler, 1106 Darth Sensitive vf Mahaloth, 1145 Astral Rejection vf sinjin, vf Darth Sensitive, 1024 Astral Rejection vf Mahaloth, 1136 Inner Stickler vf sinjin, 1079 Inner Stickler vf Mahaloth, 1184[/spoiler] The first number is total number of votes from a surviving player. Second number is how many unique surviving players have voted for that person. Mahaloth (6/4): sinjin, sinjin, sinjin, Darth Sensitive, Astral Rejection, Inner Stickler Astral Rejection (7/3): Rysto, Rysto, gnarlycharlie, gnarlycharlie, gnarlycharlie, septimus, septimus Darth Sensitive (7/3): gnarlycharlie, gnarlycharlie, gnarlycharlie, septimus, septimus, septimus, Astral Rejection sinjin (3/3): septimus, Astral Rejection, Inner Stickler Inner Stickler (5/2): sinjin, sinjin, sinjin, Mahaloth, Mahaloth gnarlycharlie (3/1): Darth Sensitive, Darth Sensitive, Darth Sensitive, Rysto (1): Darth Sensitive septimus (1): sinjin Next, I’m going to compile how many dead town & scum player votes each surviving player has accrued during the game. See you guys in a few minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1263 "2014-03-23T17:27:44Z")
Again, click the spoiler for the full chart, or just skip to the results. [spoiler]sinjin: Askthepizzaguy vf sinjin, 151 Dizzymrslizzy vf sinjin, 274 Askthepizzaguy vf sinjin, 724 Darth Sensitive: Askthepizzaguy vf Darth Sensitive, 83 TexCat vf Darth Sensitive, 802 DaphneBlack vf Darth Sensitive, 820 Askthepizzaguy vf Darth Sensitive, 843 DaphneBlack vf Darth Sensitive, 899 Idle Thoughts vf Darth Sensitive, 920 LightFoot vf Darth Sensitive, 1086 Rysto: gnarlycharlie: TexCat vf gnarlycharlie, 260 DaphneBlack vf gnarlycharlie, 622 Askthepizzaguy vf gnarlycharlie, 724 DaphneBlack vf gnarlycharlie, 741 TexCat vf gnarlycharlie, 802 DiggitCamara vf gnarlycharlie, 1127 septimus: DaphneBlack vf Septimus, 220 TexCat vf Septimus, 258 Idle Thoughts vf septimus, 303 Idle Thoughts vf Septimus, 760 TexCat vf septimus, 802 DaphneBlack vf septimus, 820 DaphneBlack vf septimus, 899 Idle Thoughts vf septimus, 920 DiggitCamara vf septimus, 1133 Mahaloth: Chronos vf Mahaloth, 104 Pleonast vf Mahaloth, 474 Chronos vf Mahaloth, 550 TexCat vf Mahaloth, 663 TexCat vf Mahaloth, 802 Askthepizzaguy vf Mahaloth, 814 DiggitCamara vf Mahaloth, 996 Astral Rejection: wevets vf Astral Rejection, 177 DaphneBlack vf Astral Rejection, 225 Chronos vf Astral Rejection, 237 Idle Thoughts vf Astral Rejection, 532 Chronos vf Astral Rejection, 550 wevets vf Astral Rejection, 554 Idle Thoughts vf Astral Rejection, 754 DiggitCamara vf Astral Rejection, 809 Askthepizzaguy vf Astral Rejection, 815 Askthepizzaguy vf Astral Rejection, 893 Idle Thoughts vf Astral Rejection, 1040 Idle Thoughts vf Astral Rejection, 1109 Inner Stickler: wevets vf Inner Stickler, 177 Askthepizzaguy vf Inner Stickler, 540 Askthepizzaguy vf Inner Stickler, 724 Idle Thoughts vf Inner Stickler, 1160[/spoiler] Of our surviving players, sinjin was voted for 3 times by two unique town players, and 0 times by known scum. Darth Sensitive was voted for 6 times by four unique town players, and 1 time by known scum. Rysto has not been voted for by any dead player. gnarlycharlie has been voted for 4 times by three unique town players, and 2 times by known scum. septimus has been voted for 7 times by three unique town players, and 2 times by known scum. Mahaloth has been voted for 2 times by two unique town players, and 5 times by three unique scums. Astral Rejection has been voted for 8 times by four unique town players, and 4 times by two unique scums. Inner Stickler has been voted for 3 times by two unique town players, and 1 time by known scum. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1264 "2014-03-23T17:34:18Z")
EDIT: I missed one vote for Rysto, by TexCat. It came after the deadline and I glossed over it in my voting chart. I feel it’s a useless vote, analysis-wise, but still worth correcting my chart. I’m working on an analysis of this now. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1265 "2014-03-23T18:01:51Z")
Please note, this analysis completely disregards the _reason_ for a vote, which sometimes truly doesn’t matter. This is purely numbers from the voting chart, which is why I always make one. My big takeaway: **Mahaloth is very likely town.** Scum have gone to a lot of effort to try to lynch him. I would also argue that this chart proves that I have a greater change of being town as well, but I’m not an unbiased source, so take this as you will. That being said, I will not vote for Mahaloth. Next, **Rysto is incredibly suspicious.** He has flown under the radar and accrued no interest from almost any living or dead player, with the exception of TexCat, who I missed in my previous post. Of note, TexCat’s vote came after the deadline, and is largely meaningless. **Scum were largely uninterested in Rysto, sinjin, Darth Sensitive, gnarlycharlie, septimus, and Inner Stickler.** Sinjin was not voted for by scum. Darth Sensitive was voted for by TexCat in a late-day six-way vote that made no effort to direct attention at any particular player. Septimus is pretty much the same story - the six-way vote, and another easily-walked-back vote in 260 showcasing a very weak case. Gnarlycharlie was also voted for in that six-way vote, but his TexCat vote seems slightly more dangerous. I doubt anyone would follow TexCat’s lead on septimus, but her vote for gnarlycharlie ‘feels’ a bit more substantial. This could go either way, but I’d lean slightly more scum on septimus than gnarly for this. And Inner Stickler’s scum vote comes from wevets very early in the game. From this bit of info, I can come up with a ranking of who would be best to lynch, by combining everything I’ve gathered. Numbers are (unique surviving votes / unique dead town votes / unique known scum votes). I feel that the more scum votes a player has gotten, the less likely they are to be scum, and so I’ve ranked this list by the third number. Then, in ties, the player with fewer known town votes is preferred. The lower you get on this list, the more likely I think you are to being scum. Rysto is an aberration, based on how little he’s been discussed. Mahaloth (6/2/5) Astral Rejection (7/8/4) gnarlycharlie (3/4/2) septimus (1/7/2) Inner Stickler (5/3/1) Darth Sensitive (7/6/1) sinjin (3/3/0) Rysto (1/0/1): (and I still think that scum vote is useless) ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1266 "2014-03-23T18:04:01Z")
Hold on, I think I screwed up those numbers by pulling from the wrong list. Let me redo that, and then I’ll cast my votes accordingly. Sorry for how many posts this is in a row. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1267 "2014-03-23T18:17:57Z")
So! I see what I screwed up. I wrote (unique surviving votes / unique dead town votes / unique known scum votes), but the numbers are actually (total surviving votes / total dead town votes / total scum votes). That’s what I meant to do, I just labeled by chart wrong, and in glancing back realized the numbers didn’t match up. I think the chart is correct. Anyway! From this chart, I believe Darth Sensitive and Inner Stickler are our two best bets for toDay. Darth Sensitive was largely ignored by scum, and has accrued a large number of votes from both known and unknown players. This, to me, represents true pro-town interest in seeing him swing. Inner Stickler is our next best bet, with similarly large interest in seeing him swing. Sinjin is also a good possibility (she’s the bottom of the chart, save Rysto), but her death will not yield as much information. Rysto would, unfortunately, yield us almost no information if he swings and is town. We have a mislynch (or two?) to spare, and I’d like to shed as much light on the gamestate as possible with our lynches until LyLo. Assuming 1 remaining scum out of 8 players (and one recruitment), pretend today is Day 1. Day 1: mislynch (6-1), recruit (5-2), scum kill (4-2) Day 2: mislynch (3-2), nightkill (2-2) Day 3: tiebreaker, or scum victory. Assuming 2 remaining scum out of 8 players (no recruitment), pretend today is Day 1. Day 1: mislynch (5-2), scum kill (4-2) Day 2: mislynch (3-2), scum kill (2-2) Day 3: tiebreaker, or scum victory. I doubt there are two remaining scum and a recruitment. So, in both likely cases, we have two actual lynches (and a tie lynch) before the game is over, _unless a tied game state is a scum win_, which is very well might be. Otherwise, we have two lynches and a tiebreaker to win. Let’s hope it doesn’t down to that. If we slaughter a scum and one remains, the math is Day 1: scum lynch (6-1), scum kill (5-1) Day 2: mislynch (4-1), scum kill (3-1) Day 3: mislymch (2-1), scum kill (1-1) Day 4: tie breaker, or scum victory. Anyway, enough chatting from me. **Vote Darth Sensitive.** **Vote Inner Stickler.** ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1268 "2014-03-23T18:23:13Z")
Also, for the record, I really really _really_ hate recruitment. Assuming scum can recruit toDay, all of my work is much less useful toMorrow. If they could use it yesterDay, it’s even worse. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1269 "2014-03-23T18:37:00Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Also, for the record, I really really _really_ hate recruitment. Assuming scum can recruit toDay, all of my work is much less useful toMorrow. If they could use it yesterDay, it’s even worse. Dude, hammer it. Anything involved Town(which I think you are right now) can do to make it go quickly is smart, in my opinion. If they can recruit, which is likely, I think pulling the rug from them is smart. To be fair, I almost think hammering would a good scum strategy too, for the same reasons. Mostly, I just wan this game to move along. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1270 "2014-03-23T18:40:01Z")
**Vote: Hammer** ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1271 "2014-03-23T19:31:55Z")
Hey guys, I am alive and I’m catching up, so please don’t hammer and get me modkilled right away. On the set-up: we started the game with 22 players. With 6 scum, that would have left us with 6 mislynches to find 6 scum. That’s a pretty heavy burden for town. Given the number of scum power roles tat we have seen so far (godfather, backup godfather, doctor avoider, poisoner) I find 5 scum far more likely, especially given that we have seen only three town power roles so far (mason, mason/doctor and investigative jack-of-all-trades). My first instinct is to vote Inner over this post: > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > What the fuck is up with the scum team? DB is still alive but Silver Jan is dead? What the hell. Given the clue (which, of course, may have been false) that there is a “hidden” scum who doesn’t have access to the scum boards, the frustration in this post jumps out at me. I thought that not killing DB with the doctor already gone was a poor move by the scum myself, but I certainly wasn’t upset about it. Inner seems to have a different perspective on the matter though… I’m not willing to put a vote down over this just yet, but that’s the direction that I’m leaning in. I am off to review Day 1 – the only Day our newly revealed scum players really participated in. Hopefully I do better this time around – I’m quite sure that my last review of Day 1 ends up being laughably wrong in light of the alignments revealed since. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1272 "2014-03-23T19:32:48Z")
Vote Count: Inner Stickler (4): Mahaloth, sinjin, septimus, Astral Rejection sinjin (1): Inner Stickler Darth Sensitive (1): Astral Rejection Hammer: Mahaloth, septimus What is your hurry for me to vote for a hammer? We have 8 players left, 3 of which haven’t cast a vote yet. I’ll hammer when everyone has gotten a chance to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1273 "2014-03-23T20:06:02Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Also, barring evidence to the contrary, what the heck is the scum team getting up to that the godfather is running around doing the night kill? Aaaaand, he did it again. Inner Stickler, you are spending far too much time angsting over the decisions that the scum are making. A townie should not be so invested in this. **Vote Inner** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1274 "2014-03-23T20:32:41Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Vote Count: > > Inner Stickler (4): Mahaloth, sinjin, septimus, Astral Rejection > sinjin (1): Inner Stickler > Darth Sensitive (1): Astral Rejection > > Hammer: Mahaloth, septimus > > What is your hurry for me to vote for a hammer? We have 8 players left, 3 of which haven’t cast a vote yet. I’ll hammer when everyone has gotten a chance to vote. I said so already. If you think I’m most scummy, vote me(I see you did now) and hammer it. As long as something happens soon, I’m happy. Also, is that how you hammer? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1275 "2014-03-23T23:52:30Z")
Who are you responding to? I didn’t vote for you (I said I wouldn’t, in fact), and I haven’t hammered, I counted how many have. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1276 "2014-03-23T23:53:56Z")
I guess my use of orange is what’s throwing you. I just used the orange color to show who had voted for hammering. In hindsight, I see how that could be confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1277 "2014-03-24T00:05:02Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I guess my use of orange is what’s throwing you. I just used the orange color to show who had voted for hammering. In hindsight, I see how that could be confusing. Ah, that’s it. Yeah, putting it in orange threw me. I thought it was a vote and a vote to hammer, which is not how it works. Anyway, I got it now. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1278 "2014-03-24T00:30:00Z")
Hey - I’ve been Spring Breaking and March Madnessing. I’m getting back into the swing of real life though. So we’ve got a 5/8 of surviving votes on **Inner**. Two votes for a hammer. Me and \*\*Gnarly \*\*are the only ones without votes, and I’m fixing that in this post. I don’t have anything to add with the cases on **Inner**. **Rysto** - what made you stop voting **Astral**? You’ve made a total of five votes (2 Astral - day 1 and 3, 1 Texcat - day 3, 1 Pizza - day 4, 1 Inner - today, no vote day 2 or 5), and I couldn’t figure out why you pulled your attention away from Astral. I’ll be honest, it feels like you’re flying under the radar at a level that would make any Survivor winner proud - you have a single legit vote that’s been put on you all game - and that was a prod vote near the end of a day. I don’t think it’s good at all that you’ve come this far with no pressure on you. **Vote Rysto** **Gnarly** - why do you think it’s suspicious that someone would trust your clue stating that ties are broken using [random.org](http://random.org)? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1279 "2014-03-24T01:32:55Z")
> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#): > > **Rysto** - what made you stop voting **Astral**? You’ve made a total of five votes (2 Astral - day 1 and 3, 1 Texcat - day 3, 1 Pizza - day 4, 1 Inner - today, no vote day 2 or 5), and I couldn’t figure out why you pulled your attention away from Astral. On Day 4, I felt that the case against pizza was stronger. Both he and Astral had similar voting records and the fact that TexCat refused to place a self-defence vote for him caught my eye. Well, we all know how that went. After that, I lost confidence in my analysis of the vote record and decided that I needed to start looking elsewhere (I have no excuse for flaking yesterDay though). It looks like I was right to. Check out these Day 1 vote tallies: \*\*Day 1 [Post 294](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17110476&postcount=294) (Daphne’s Claim) \*\* DaphneBlack - 6 votes - Askthepizzaguy (211), Astral Rejection (223), Inner Stickler (224), DiggitCamara (228), septimus (252), Johnny Bravo (291) Silver Jan - 4 votes - Astral Rejection (190), Askthepizzaguy (211), DaphneBlack (220), Captain Klutz (240) Astral Rejection - 3 votes - wevets (177), DaphneBlack (225), Chronos (237) Mahaloth - 2 votes - Chronos (104), sinjin (149) Askthepizzaguy - 2 votes - sinjin (149), Chronos (237) Idle Thoughts - 2 votes - wevets (177), Johnny Bravo (189) sinjin - 2 vote - Askthepizzaguy (151), dizzymrslizzy (274) Inner Stickler - 1 vote - wevets (177) Chronos - 1 vote - wevets (177) septimus - 2 vote - Daphne Black (220), TexCat (258) gnarlycharlie - 1 vote - TexCat (260) Scathach - 1 vote - TexCat (285) TexCat - 1 vote - Scathach (290) DiggitCamara - 1 vote - Johnny Bravo (291) **Day 1 [Post 363](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17112619&postcount=363)** Texcat - 5 votes - Scathach (290), septimus (310), Silver Jan (318), dizzymrslizzy (343), gnarlycharlie (362) Silver Jan - 4 votes - Astral Rejection (190), Askthepizzaguy (211), Captain Klutz (240), Texcat (316) Astral Rejection - 4 votes - [color=red]wevets[/color] (177), Daphne Black (225), Chronos (237), Rysto (340) septimus - 3 votes - DaphneBlack (220), Texcat (258), Idle Thoughts (303) Mahaloth - 2 votes - Chronos (104), sinjin (149) Askthepizzaguy - 2 votes - sinjin (149), Chronos (237) sinjin - 2 votes - Askthepizzaguy (151), Dizzymrslizzy (274) Idle Thoughts - 2 votes - wevets (177), septimus (310) DaphneBlack - 2 votes - Askthpizzaguy (211), Inner Stickler (224) gnarlycharlie - 2 votes - Texcat (260), Darth Sensitive (296) scathach - 2 votes - Texcat (285), Darth Sensitive (296) Inner Stickler - 1 vote - wevets (177) Chronos - 1 vote - wevets (177) dizzymrslizzy - 1 vote - Silver Jan (309) Darth Sensitive - 1 vote - gnarlycharlie (362) DiggitCamara - 2 votes - Johnny Bravo (291), DaphneBlack (308) **Day 1 [Post 475](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17119022&postcount=475)** Pleonast (6) - Chronos, LightFoot, Mahaloth, Darth Sensitive, Askthepizzaguy, Astral Rejection Astral Rejection (5) - wevets, Daphne Black, Chronos, Rysto, gnarlycharlie Texcat (5) - Scathach, septimus, dizzymrslizzy, gnarlycharlie, Pleonast Askthepizzaguy (4) - sinjin, Chronos, Inner Stickler, Pleonast dizzymrslizzy (4) - Silver Jan, Septimus, [del]TexCat[/del], DaphneBlack, Astral Rejection DiggitCamara (3) - DaphneBlack, Johnny Bravo, Askthepizzaguy Mahaloth (3) - Chronos, sinjin, Pleonast septimus (2) - Texcat, Idle Thoughts Silver Jan (2) - Askthepizzaguy, Captain Klutz Idle Thoughts (2) - wevets, septimus sinjin (2) – Askthepizzaguy, Dizzymrslizzy Chronos (2) - wevets, Pleonast LightFoot (2) - Astral Rejection, Pleonast Darth Sensitive (1) – gnarlycharlie gnarlycharlie (1) - Darth Sensitive Inner Stickler (1) - wevets Johnny Bravo (1) - Lightfoot **Day 1 [Post 510](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17119461&postcount=510)** dizzymrslizzy (7) - Silver Jan, Septimus, DaphneBlack, Astral Rejection, Askthepizzaguy, Darth Sensitive, Texcat Pleonast (5) - Chronos, LightFoot, Mahaloth, Darth Sensitive, Astral Rejection Astral Rejection (5) - wevets, Chronos, Rysto, gnarlycharlie, septimus Texcat (5) - Scathach, septimus, dizzymrslizzy, gnarlycharlie, Pleonast Askthepizzaguy (5) - sinjin, Chronos, Inner Stickler, Pleonast, Darth Sensitive Mahaloth (3) - Chronos, sinjin, Pleonast DiggitCamara (2) - DaphneBlack, Johnny Bravo septimus (2) - Texcat, Idle Thoughts Idle Thoughts (2) - wevets, septimus Chronos (2) - wevets, Pleonast LightFoot (2) - Astral Rejection, Pleonast Darth Sensitive (1) – gnarlycharlie gnarlycharlie (1) - Darth Sensitive Inner Stickler (1) - wevets Johnny Bravo (1) - Lightfoot Silver Jan (1) - Captain Klutz sinjin (1) Dizzymrslizzy **Day 1 [Final](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17119781&postcount=525)** dizzymrslizzy – 8 votes - Silver Jan (309), septimus (395), DaphneBlack (449), Astral Rejection (473), Askthepizzaguy (490), Darth Sensitive (495), Texcat (506), Captain Klutz (512) Texcat – 5 votes - Scathach (290), septimus (310), Pleonast (431), dizzymrslizzy (343), gnarlycharlie (362) Astral Rejection – 5 votes - wevets (177), septimus (496), Chronos (237), Rysto (340), gnarlycharlie (407) Askthepizzaguy – 5 votes - sinjin (149), Chronos (237), Inner Stickler (364), Pleonast (415), Darth Sensitive (495) Pleonast – 4 votes - Chronos (371), Lightfoot (376), Mahaloth (384), Darth Sensitive (432) Mahaloth – 3 votes - Chronos (104), sinjin (149), Pleonast (474) Lightfoot – 3 votes - Astral Rejection (440), Pleonast (474), Johnny Bravo (517) septimus – 2 votes - Texcat (258), Idle Thoughts (303) Chronos – 2 votes - wevets (177), Pleonast (468) DiggitCamara – 2 votes - Johnny Bravo (291), DaphneBlack (308) Idle Thoughts (1) - septimus Darth Sensitive (1) – gnarlycharlie gnarlycharlie (1) - Darth Sensitive Inner Stickler (1) - wevets Johnny Bravo (1) - Lightfoot Silver Jan (1) - Captain Klutz sinjin (1) Dizzymrslizzy I’m having a hard time believing that scum, at one point, managed to have the **top 3** lynch contenders all be scum at once (although I admit the shift to dizzy gives me pause…). It does look like the scum were trying to get clever with their votes (especially the two scum on Chronos). If there is a toMorrow I’ll have to revisit this > [@](#): > > I’ll be honest, it feels like you’re flying under the radar at a level that would make any Survivor winner proud - you have a single legit vote that’s been put on you all game - and that was a prod vote near the end of a day. I don’t think it’s good at all that you’ve come this far with no pressure on you. This is nothing new. I’ve been lynched once in all the games that I’ve played, and that time it happened because I was 100% confirmed scum. I even survived and won in a game where I was confirmed scum! (ably assisted by a townie who forgot that town needs to vote as a bloc at LyLo) ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1280 "2014-03-24T14:10:03Z")
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