# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1421 "2014-04-03T22:19:16Z")
**vote hammer** ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1422 "2014-04-04T03:19:41Z")
No talk at all? Alright then. **Vote Sinjin.** If four players vote for sinjin, that immediately ends the day. Mahaloth, we’d just need your vote. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1423 "2014-04-04T03:37:22Z")
So **Astral** , you think \*\*\*\*Mahaloth is scummier than me then revote me when \*\*Mahaloth \*\*votes hammer. Methinks this means you know that both \*\*Mahaloth \*\*and I are town and you are fine with either of us dead. **vote Astral** ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1424 "2014-04-04T03:46:17Z")
I think you’re both scum, as I’ve said repeatedly. It shouldn’t really be a shock when I vote to lynch one of you. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1425 "2014-04-04T04:24:47Z")
\*\*Astral \*\*- I simply think that \*\*Sinjin \*\*is the more likely of the two to be scum, so he’s the one I would prefer to see lynched first. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1426 "2014-04-04T04:55:11Z")
Have I been wrong about sinjin’s gender this whole game? I guess I earned sinjin calling me a “she” then. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1427 "2014-04-04T07:32:26Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I actually cool with hammering this Day too. Everybody should just vote and hammer so we can move on. Even if you all decide to kill me. I’m leaving my vote on astral and will hammer once I have access to a computer instead of being mobile. you sound like a player who’s pissed and doesn’t care anymore. perhaps you have been recruited and are not too happy about it. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1428 "2014-04-04T09:30:25Z")
I don’t want Day to end prematurely just yet. **unvote all** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1429 "2014-04-04T11:56:31Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > you sound like a player who’s pissed and doesn’t care anymore. perhaps you have been recruited and are not too happy about it. I’m not pissed at all and I care; my vote to hammer comes out of interest and caring. If I did not care, I would drop out and just stay quiet. Let’s not take the game and make it personal in anyway. I just genuinely mean I am ready to hammer. The overall silence from the crowd seems to indicate that a lot of folks are content to just let the game sit silently for days. I say vote and hammer and let’s see what happens. For the record, I have not been recruited and I am not 100% sure in who our remaining scum are(or is if there is just one). I am just going on vibe. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1430 "2014-04-04T13:09:52Z")
That’s what’s frustrating me. You have seven days of information to sort through. By now, I’ve probably said any number of things about everyone, some of it is probably contradictory or scummy-sounding. I’m by far the most vocal player in the game… and the best you can do to support your case is “vibe” after saying you had “nothing” yesterDay. **Vote Mahaloth.** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1431 "2014-04-04T14:29:40Z")
I think this discussion can continue post-game, but we had a thread(I can’t find it now) started a few years ago called “let’s improve our game of mafia” and we discussed theories on the game. Anyway, in that thread I believe I mentioned that I am in the camp that believes the following: More or less, it is a crap shoot. The only time I’ve caught scum is when they make a major mistake, something I don’t think any remaining players have done in this game. I won’t go into further discussion about an ongoing game, but I did just catch scum on Idlemafia…because of major tells from Idle himself. That is quite rare, though. By the way, does anyone know where that thread is? The one where we discussed theories on mafia? I can’t find it searching “mafia” in the search engine. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1432 "2014-04-04T14:46:43Z")
[Here’s the thread you’re looking for.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=654556) You might recognize the OP. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1433 "2014-04-04T14:54:44Z")
before i vote again and we end the Day, i will claim. [QUOTE=storyteller0910] **Welcome to the game; you are Police Inspector Lestrade** ROLE TYPE: Detective, in a manner of speaking ALIGNMENT: **Yours** (Town) WIN CONDITION: You win when all of Mine (Scum) have been eliminated. \*Dear Inspector – We’re all so looking forward to your appearance at the party tomorrow night. As I know you are an investigator by trade, I’ll present the details in a format suitable to your deducative skills. WE HAVE PARTY. TUESDAY NIGHT. YOU COME. WE PLAY GAME. YOU BRING DIP. DOORKNOB TURNS TO THE RIGHT. See you tonight! Fondly, M\* POWERS: Each day, you may choose one player and investigate them. You’re utterly terrible at identifying folks who are actually guilty of something, such that if you investigate any actual Scum player you will _always_ receive a Town result. However, you are considerably more competent at falsely accusing the innocent; 50% of your investigations into a an actual Town player will yield a result of Scum. * * * CLUE: All ties are resolved via [random.org](http://random.org). [/QUOTE] so if i get a Town result, it isn’t reliable. however a Scum result means the player is Town. D1: Darth Sensitive is Town. D2: Texcat is Town. D3: no orders. RL issues D4: Idle Thoughts is Town. D5: Astral Rejection is Scum. D6: Septimus is Scum. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1434 "2014-04-04T15:36:51Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > [Here’s the thread you’re looking for.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=654556) You might recognize the OP. 😃 I figured it was you, but I could not find it for the life of me. And, for the record, here is what I said there and I stand by it. Firstly, sach said: > [@Let's improve how we play "Mafia."](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-improve-how-we-play-mafia/624501/27): > > I also think we should emphasize that “mafia” is strongly luck-based. We’re mainly playing a murder mystery _story_ and “being right” and “being wrong” are largely just a matter of chance. I think this difference is why no-reveal games work in other venues. By accepting that the lynch is essentially random, it removes the angst of “being wrong.” And I quoted that and replied by saying: > [@Let's improve how we play "Mafia."](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-improve-how-we-play-mafia/624501/31): > > I agree entirely. In fact, I am not sure I have ever been lynched as scum for any kind of actual scum-slip or suspicious move that was actually motivated by me being on the scum team. I know, I know, someone will dig up one now, but the majority of time, I have just been lynched because of luck…or bad luck when I’m Town. > > I enjoy the game a ton, though, but there is a ton of luck and not much we can do about it. And I stick by it. Yes, scum make mistakes and so forth, but it is a huge amount of luck and I vote quite often based on “vibe”, even late game. This was nearly two years ago, folks. I even suggested resurrecting this thread over at Idleboards not that long ago to continue the discussion. I am still open to it after this game if you all like. Anyway, I am sticking now with Astral. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1435 "2014-04-04T15:39:19Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > before i vote again and we end the Day, i will claim. > > so if i get a Town result, it isn’t reliable. **however a Scum result means the player is Town.** 50% of the time or always? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1436 "2014-04-04T16:23:35Z")
Mahaloth, assuming gnarly recites sinjin, would you also vote accordingly to instant hammer the game? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1437 "2014-04-04T17:05:08Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Mahaloth, assuming gnarly recites sinjin, would you also vote accordingly to instant hammer the game? Recites? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1438 "2014-04-04T18:29:14Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Mahaloth, assuming gnarly recites sinjin, would you also vote accordingly to instant hammer the game? I repeat the question. Huh? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1439 "2014-04-04T19:05:17Z")
“Recites” is “revotes” after autocorrect attacked it. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1440 "2014-04-04T19:23:29Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > 1. The Day will not be unilaterally shortened. However, there will be an instantaneous hammer if at any time the number of votes on a particular player is equal to the total number of players -1. Also, you may vote to hammer using **orange text** ; if more than half of the living players (ie, 5 or more for today) wish to end the Day and if there is a valid lynch candidate, we will end the Day 12 hours following the fifth vote for hammering. I figured since you’re fine with hammering, we wouldn’t even need to wait 12 hours. We could get the Day over and done with instantly if you (the N-1th vote) cast a vote for sinjin too. Or we could all just say “hammer” and wait for 12 hours. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752.md?page=73)