# Mafia: Baker Street \[Game in progress\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 7, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752 "2014-02-07T14:39:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-baker-street-game-in-progress/680752/1434 "2014-04-04T15:36:51Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> [Here’s the thread you’re looking for.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=654556) You might recognize the OP. 😃

I figured it was you, but I could not find it for the life of me. And, for the record, here is what I said there and I stand by it. Firstly, sach said:

> [@Let's improve how we play "Mafia."](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-improve-how-we-play-mafia/624501/27):
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> I also think we should emphasize that “mafia” is strongly luck-based. We’re mainly playing a murder mystery _story_ and “being right” and “being wrong” are largely just a matter of chance. I think this difference is why no-reveal games work in other venues. By accepting that the lynch is essentially random, it removes the angst of “being wrong.”

And I quoted that and replied by saying:

> [@Let's improve how we play "Mafia."](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-improve-how-we-play-mafia/624501/31):
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> I agree entirely. In fact, I am not sure I have ever been lynched as scum for any kind of actual scum-slip or suspicious move that was actually motivated by me being on the scum team. I know, I know, someone will dig up one now, but the majority of time, I have just been lynched because of luck…or bad luck when I’m Town.
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> I enjoy the game a ton, though, but there is a ton of luck and not much we can do about it.

And I stick by it. Yes, scum make mistakes and so forth, but it is a huge amount of luck and I vote quite often based on “vibe”, even late game. This was nearly two years ago, folks. I even suggested resurrecting this thread over at Idleboards not that long ago to continue the discussion. I am still open to it after this game if you all like.  
Anyway, I am sticking now with Astral.

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