# Mafia: Cecilvania \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 13, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111 "2008-05-13T00:37:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/981 "2008-06-05T17:55:18Z")
I’m not entirely sure that I like the fact that we still seem to be of different opinions on day 3 so far. Have we really not seen anything, or are we all trying carefully to not be on a bandwagon? I’m used to seeing 2-3 people being targetted, and maybe one or two outliers with a single vote. As of this posting, our leading vote getter has 33% of the votes. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/982 "2008-06-05T17:55:31Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] OK, five hours to go, and we’re stuck in the mud as usual. I’m not seeing the Tomba/MHaye lynch, and there is no chance my vote would switch there. Here are my thoughts: 1. I still think **Diggit** is scummy. I’ve talked about it extensively. He’s still my #1 choice. 2. I sense a very justifiably negative reaction to **Freudian** ’s ridiculous vote. She’s been on my “more likely to be scum than town” list for a while, but I haven’t had the time to do a review and make a case. I could potentially see myself voting for **Freudian** toDay as an alternate target. 3. **Hal Briston** still has not posted toDay and he will be modkilled if he doesn’t get his ass in here soon (and substantially). Modkill is bad because no info is given - he will get disappeared and we will never know what his alignment was. So, we could lynch him before that happens and get the info. If he’s scum (and he’s absolutely also on my “list”), hooray. If he’s Town, well, he was going to be gone anyway, at least this way we have the info. The downside is that there is no accountability for those voting for him, since it would just be because of the impending modkill. So it’s not great informationally from that angle. And on preview, **Hal** has now appeared to vote for me. Better get a couple more good posts in, **Hal**! 😛 [/QUOTE] Well, now we’re down to a little over two hours to go. No one (besides **storyteller** ) has responded to my case against **Diggit** , so that appears to not be an option toDay. **Hal** is back and no longer likely to be mod-killed, so that negates #3. That leaves #2, **Freudian Slit**. I wish there were time for me to do a complete review of **Freudian** , as is my wont, but there isn’t, so I’m going to have to go with my gut. **Unvote DiggitCamara** **Vote Freudian Slit** It’s possible that some effort might be made by latecomers to get me lynched toDay. For those townies who may be thinking about throwing a quick vote on me at the end: please think about it carefully. If you take the time to review my posting history honestly, I think you will see that I have played hard for town in this game. I have been open about my suspicions _and supported them with evidence_; I have attacked what I’ve seen as spurious reasoning, and shown exactly _why_ I thought it was spurious; I’ve gone back and done extensive reviews to show players distorting the past record; I’ve answered all those who have attacked me. In short, I’ve done everything I can to help the town in this game. I’ve also been very vocal, so it’s no surprise to me that I have accumulated some votes. Please do not be led around by the nose. If you do, the result will be the same as the last two days. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/983 "2008-06-05T17:59:17Z")
So…just minor observations about voting history. Freudian has so far, at the end of each day, voted the same as Blaster. She’s the only one in game that has done that. 3 days in a row. All 4 MTomba voters voted with Blam on Day one…but that doesn’t say anything. I highly doubt that all 4 are scum, but I’m suspicious of why FS has always followed along with Blaster…says something about her actions, and possibly his. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/984 "2008-06-05T18:13:33Z")
[QUOTE=Freudian Slit] Based on the reasons others gave for **WF Tomba** being scummy up thread (him targeting others), plus the fact that he’s leaving the game already…it just seemed like a “safe” vote, and better than voting for no one. What, do you want me to change my vote to a no lynch, cause that’s all I got. [/QUOTE] One, piggybacking on others. Two, the role has not left the game, but because the players have changed you felt “safe” voting for me. Those aren’t reasons for a vote. Those are more like the smoke and mirrors a magician employs to make us think he can wave his hands and something will vanish. Vote **Freudian Slit**. ---
**Author:** ![Pollux\_Oil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/858c86/32.png) [@Pollux\_Oil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pollux_Oil)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/985 "2008-06-05T18:22:05Z")
[QUOTE=Freudian Slit] Based on the reasons others gave for **WF Tomba** being scummy up thread (him targeting others), plus the fact that he’s leaving the game already…it just seemed like a “safe” vote, and better than voting for no one. What, do you want me to change my vote to a no lynch, cause that’s all I got. [/QUOTE] Um…what? Mhaye is replacing WF Tomba. I don’t see what him leaving the game has anything to do with things. Plus…“safe” vote? You should be voting for who you think is scummiest, not who you think is safest. Since I’m against WF Tomba/Mhaye being lynched and my #2 suspect next to Darth is Freudian…I’m gonna: **Unvote Darth Sensitive** **Vote Freudian Slit** ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/986 "2008-06-05T18:28:27Z")
Can those that aren’t voting for one of the two vote leaders kindly change their votes to one of them? I’d hate to see a random lynch at this point in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/987 "2008-06-05T18:35:28Z")
FS should actually be up by one right now Santo. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/988 "2008-06-05T18:41:55Z")
[QUOTE=Koldanar] FS should actually be up by one right now Santo. [/QUOTE] Well, there ya go, using all them thar numbers. 😛 I still think it’s a better town strategy to have fewer one-off votes at this point in the Day, although it’s probably too late to start the crusade. Wish I’d had brought it up earlier. Although, “earlier” there were no darn votes at all. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/989 "2008-06-05T18:47:27Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] Can those that aren’t voting for one of the two vote leaders kindly change their votes to one of them? I’d hate to see a random lynch at this point in the game. [/QUOTE] Considering I think both of them are bad lynch targets (_especially_ **Freudian** ), no, I won’t. Which, if things keep up the way they have been lately, means **FS** is a lock to be scum. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/990 "2008-06-05T18:55:37Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Considering I think both of them are bad lynch targets (_especially_ **Freudian** ), no, I won’t. Which, if things keep up the way they have been lately, means **FS** is a lock to be scum. [/QUOTE] If you think **Freudian** is a worse choice, why don’t you place your vote where it would prevent that? I don’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/991 "2008-06-05T19:02:48Z")
So it’s Thursday at three…is voting over? ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/992 "2008-06-05T19:09:10Z")
[QUOTE=Freudian Slit] So it’s Thursday at three…is voting over? [/QUOTE] Yep. So are you the Vamp? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/993 "2008-06-05T19:10:32Z")
[QUOTE=Freudian Slit] So it’s Thursday at three…is voting over? [/QUOTE] Day ends at 4 eastern not three. Y’all have another hour. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/994 "2008-06-05T19:20:46Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] Day ends at 4 eastern not three. Y’all have another hour. [/QUOTE] Hey. The mod didn’t pop in to ruin your brilliant vote-but-not-in-blue plan. Cut me some slack here! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/995 "2008-06-05T19:22:06Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] Yep. So are you the Vamp? [/QUOTE] Um, no. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/996 "2008-06-05T19:25:05Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] If you think **Freudian** is a worse choice, why don’t you place your vote where it would prevent that? I don’t understand. [/QUOTE] I think **Freudian** is a worse choice simply because there is no good reason for her lynch…none at all. That doesn’t mean she’s not scum, though. I don’t think she or **MTomba** are scum, but I could be certainly wrong. And by no means am I certain enough of **Freudian** ’s innocence to cause a draw. Without any other compelling reason not to do so, I’ll just keep my vote on who I find scummiest. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/997 "2008-06-05T19:28:01Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] Hey. The mod didn’t pop in to ruin your brilliant vote-but-not-in-blue plan. Cut me some slack here! 😛 [/QUOTE] Fair enough. I suppose I should have just reposted the rules. Next time I will do better. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/998 "2008-06-05T19:59:43Z")
[some oog stuff] Man I’m feeling ropy at the moment. Probably a combination of the effort on the interview today and the post-cold congestion. And the UXB of WW2 vintage found near a London underground station - even if it had no effect on the travel today, because I use that line on a Sunday. [/oog stuff] Over the weekend, I intend to reread Days 1 and 2, and try to get a handle on the range of possible positions the game might be in, especially wrt the claim. Right now I’m in a bit of a cleft stick - I can’t actually move my vote at all without getting dropped into a tied lynch situation, and I don’t want that. I have no feeling that FS is a Town power role and she’s not online right now so she obviously isn’t that desperate to save her neck. Which probably means she’s vanilla. Tomorrow is Armageddon day. So I guess that puts me into Saturday for the reread. Promises, promises, I know. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/999 "2008-06-05T20:18:17Z")
Day end coming up. This is just a teaser post. HA! ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111/1000 "2008-06-05T20:22:51Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] Day end coming up. This is just a teaser post. HA! [/QUOTE] Hate…pulsing waves of hate…from my brain…hate…I hate…_blows up_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-cecilvania-game-over/449111.md?page=51)