# Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324 "2008-06-09T14:52:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 101
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2002 "2008-08-02T05:36:52Z")
Hmm. I’m perfectly willing to claim, but it’s going to pretty much frag any chance I have at using my power. Knowing this, is everyone still in favor of my claiming? (I assume y’all are, but I want to be absolutely sure.) ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2003 "2008-08-02T06:49:09Z")
[QUOTE=cckerberos] The freemason checking power is a Day action… [/QUOTE] doh! yeah best leave me around tyoday, someone wuill be able to confiem me and themselves potentially ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2004 "2008-08-02T06:51:35Z")
Hawkeyeop, How can you be a freemason and not have checked out Drain Bead? That makes little sense, please explain. ---
**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2005 "2008-08-02T07:50:10Z")
I’ll jump the line a bit and claim while **Omi no Kami** decides. I’m a freemason. I investigated: Day 1 : **peekercpa** Day 2 : **RoOsh** Day 3 : **Pollux Oil** Day 4 : **Koldanar** Day 5 : **Drain Bead** None of them were freemasons. For that reason I am fairly convinced that **Drain Bead** is the Omega Wolf. I’m also very suspicious of **Hawkeyeop** ’s failure to check him out Yesterday, and a little concerned by **OAOW** ’s forgetting that the freemason power is used during the Day. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2006 "2008-08-02T08:35:49Z")
OK that’s enough for me. Looks like Hawkere is defo scum, but what flavor of scum. mea culpa on the checking thing, but the fact remains I AM verifiable. Who should check who between cckerberos me and hawkeye? ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2007 "2008-08-02T08:39:54Z")
Ehh, in retrospect I don’t think it really matters: I haven’t been useful enough to the Town for the remaining Scum to target me at this point. Ye see laddies n’ lassies, I’m in nae great shape dern’ the Day fer I spend each and every night with a bottle o’ whiskey and a shillalagh, perched behind my door ready to bludgeon any with foul intents into paste like a berserk leprechaun. I am a **Scotsman**. From Pleo’s initial PM: > [@Original PM](#): > > You are a Scotsman, a member of the Town. You can survive any one attack, including a lynch. Your role will be revealed to all upon surviving. If you survived a Night attack, you will discover the identity of your attacker. You will survive multiple attackers on a single Night, but after that Night you will become vulnerable. On top of that, **I have Town’s secret power**. If a general consensus is reached that the secret power is relevant, I’ll share it, but I really, _really_ hope that people will believe me when I say that publicly disclosing it will make my job a helluva lot harder. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2008 "2008-08-02T10:55:39Z")
[QUOTE=Omi no Kami] Ehh, in retrospect I don’t think it really matters: I haven’t been useful enough to the Town for the remaining Scum to target me at this point. Ye see laddies n’ lassies, I’m in nae great shape dern’ the Day fer I spend each and every night with a bottle o’ whiskey and a shillalagh, perched behind my door ready to bludgeon any with foul intents into paste like a berserk leprechaun. I am a **Scotsman**. From Pleo’s initial PM: On top of that, **I have Town’s secret power**. If a general consensus is reached that the secret power is relevant, I’ll share it, but I really, _really_ hope that people will believe me when I say that publicly disclosing it will make my job a helluva lot harder. [/QUOTE] I sure as heck am not in any position to tell you what to do if you are being truthful but … So far, town et al have done a good job of lynching scum. I think we are perfect, right? And we have Saddam aka **Pop** and at least one more candidate aka **DB** or **OAOW** lined up for the gallows. I still don’t think it may be enough for town to win this one. I believe that **Pleo** set this sucker up as stated. \Each side will have an equal chance of winning\ As such I would suggest that if you have anything else to bring to the table that would help town I see no downside. However, that is your call and only my two cents. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2009 "2008-08-02T10:57:40Z")
And one other observation. I think Nicholas Cage would feel right at home about now. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2010 "2008-08-02T13:58:47Z")
[QUOTE=Omi no Kami] On top of that, **I have Town’s secret power**. If a general consensus is reached that the secret power is relevant, I’ll share it, but I really, _really_ hope that people will believe me when I say that publicly disclosing it will make my job a helluva lot harder. [/QUOTE] Excellent. Does anyone else wish to claim to have the Town’s secret power? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2011 "2008-08-02T14:08:26Z")
OK, so now we’re getting somewhere. Let’s see: 1 - cckerberos 2 - Zsofia 3 - DarkCookies 4 - NAF 5 - Pollux Oil storyteller: Magician NAF: Magician peekercpa: Vicar Koldanar: Seer MHaye: Witch Omi No Kami: Scotsman OaoW: Freemason Drain Bead: Freemason Hawkeyeop: Freemason cckerberos: Freemason I’m going to reserve full comment until we hear from Cookies, Pollux, and Zsofia regarding their roles. I think our next step should depend at least partly on the information we receive from them. But I’ll say: Obviously, there is at least one and probably two scum among the four claimed Freemasons. For the life of me, I cannot understand why **Hawkeyeop** would claim to not have investigated **Drain Bead** ; this makes NO sense, and strongly suggests scum on the spot for a good claim. It also suggests that whatever the lineup, he is NOT scum on the same side as DB if the latter is scum. He might be my preferred lynch for toDay, depending on the remaining results. **Wanderers’** failure to know how his power works was quite questionable. And I don’t know if I believe **NAF**. Of all the roles in the game, two Magicians doesn’t seem terribly likely. But I suppose it’s possible. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2012 "2008-08-02T14:09:04Z")
[Oog]My daughter, different one than the appendectomy child, is getting ready to have surgery to remove a very large ovarian cyst. Thoughts and prayers are welcome.[/oog] ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2013 "2008-08-02T14:09:35Z")
Sorry - I meant to delete that numbered list at the top of my post when I was finished writing the list at the bottom. Oh, well. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2014 "2008-08-02T14:12:33Z")
[oog] Peeker, your family do seem to be in the wars. I’m sorry. You have my prayers. [oog] ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2015 "2008-08-02T14:31:58Z")
Aw, geez, **peeker**. Take care and I wish you and your entire family well. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2016 "2008-08-02T14:54:25Z")
[oog]I know I’m not playing anymore, but I’m following along and need to pop in and wish \*\*peeker-daughter \*\*well. **peek** , a good friend of mine had ovarian cysts several years ago, had surgery to remove them and has been fine ever since (had two kids, even). Have no doubt that your daughter will also have a good outcome. [/oog] ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2017 "2008-08-02T17:12:28Z")
Ok then, my turn… I am a **Vig**. This is first time I’ve played this role, and I must say that it is hell on the nerves, especially with the whole suicide clause. On Night 1 I turned in orders to take out **NBC**. On Night 4 I turned in orders to take out **fluiddruid**. It will be interesting to see who actually killed **NBC** , seeing as we had both apparently picked up on his scummy bits (;D) that Night. Being so early in the game, and given **story’s** prowess at Mafia, I decided between a mixture of giving him the benefit of the doubt as to his Magician claim, and just keeping my head down and seeing how things went before deciding whether or not (and when) to toss out the possibility that story had been the one to kill **NBC** , and why I’d know that. All that being said, I’m inclined to believe story’s Magician claim over NAF’s at this point. It could all be WiFoM, but story’s play strikes me as “townier” than NAF’s. And I don’t think we’d have two Magicians and two Vigs. The suicide clause was a major balancing force dictating very conservative Vig play. As for the **fluiddruid** kill, I was getting restless and worried about not playing my role aggressively enough, and that I was stagnating in the fear of not getting a good read on someone and hitting a townie. This was exacerbated by us being able to lynch so effectively through the Days. So…I decided to go soul-searching in the lurker end of the pool, and my gut call was to hit **fluiddruid**. This decision gnawed at me greatly, and even though it seems to have turned out for the better, it was not a fun risk to take. I can at least now say WOO FUCKING HOO!!! ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2018 "2008-08-02T17:13:53Z")
Crap! And our thoughts are with you and your daughter, peeker! ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2019 "2008-08-02T18:58:50Z")
[Oog]Crap. One orange sized cyst on the left. One walnut sized one on the right with two in the tubes. And she got to keep all the potential grand daddy stuff intact, if that is what she wants. Life is a heck of a lot better at this point than it was a couple hours ago. Clamoring for torts and queso so all be right with the world. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2020 "2008-08-02T19:04:39Z")
[QUOTE=peekercpa] [Oog]Crap. One orange sized cyst on the left. One walnut sized one on the right with two in the tubes. And she got to keep all the potential grand daddy stuff intact, if that is what she wants. Life is a heck of a lot better at this point than it was a couple hours ago. Clamoring for torts and queso so all be right with the world. [/QUOTE] That sounds like middling fair to good news, Peeker. Here’s hoping the recovery continues apace. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2021 "2008-08-02T20:14:03Z")
Ooof, I had a tangerine-sized cyst and two walnut-sized ones a few months ago, and it hurt like a bitch. No surgery though, although it was touch and go there for a while. The two in the tubes would worry me more than anything else about future fertility. For the record, I’m preggo now, so it clearly didn’t affect mine in the least. Hope her recovery is easy! As for the claims, I’m not buying quite a few of them. Maybe it’s that I have suspicions of **Omi No Kami** already, and I’m also concerned about **Cookies** trying to smudge **story** for endgame. But **hawkeyeop** is definitely the worst of the ones so far. Needless to say, I will be checking him out. My problem is that I really want to vote **OAOW** , since he’s clearly lying scum, and I only have a hunch on anyone else. But it appears that everyone else has chosen not to play the WIFOM game at this point, and I suppose I can’t blame that decision. I don’t want to vote **hawkeyeop** when I can easily make absolutely certain of his scummitude very soon…ugh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=100) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=102)